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Want an Ultimate Issue? How About the Origin of the Universe
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Michael McLean
2023-05-06 05:05:15 UTC
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JWS says...
Want an Ultimate Issue? How About the Origin of the Universe
by Andrew McDiarmid
We?re sharing ten of Stephen Meyer?s best recent interviews to celebrate the
paperback release of Return of the God Hypothesis. Today, it?s the king of clear
thinking, Mr. Dennis Prager, who hosts Dr. Meyer for an Ultimate Issues hour of
his popular daily radio show. The topic? Nothing less than the origin of the
universe!
https://evolutionnews.org/2023/05/want-an-ultimate-issue-how-about-the-origin-of-the-universe/
Let me guess?! "God did It?" (But, who created God??)
Dawn
You people say the same stupid, childish, ignorant, things again and
again, hoping things will change. :-).
For the thousandth time, God is eternal or nothing would be here.
Whys is dats?
Because, no thing can create itself. Nufing can be before it is, in
order to bring itself into being - protons included, you stubborn idiot.
And if you come out with the other insane atheist stupidity: stop time,
then you can talk about your widdle world being eternal.
Grow up!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Tryon
Read more!
Poor MX is lost forever in his made up
personal theology. Never having an
understanding of the most basic facts
of reality, he dwells on the construction
of fantastical ideas which allow him to
ignore reality and always be right, no
matter what. He's alone in the world
saying "no thing can create itself", and
"sumpin can't come frum nuttin.". He
will no doubt continue repeating these
phrases as his sole justification for
his moronic ideas.
Wanker.
"Sumpin can't come frum nuttin", you bloody fool.
Why do you keep saying this? Everyone know this.
Here's another one for you: "You can't push a rope".
and something can't create it self.
Prove it.
It's easy. If something does not exist, it
cannot do ANYTHING. And one of those
anythings is creating itself.
Things are made from other things. Things are
"created" by using preexisting mass and natural
forces that bring that mass together.
Which would be a ZERO energy state, which, per the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, is IMPOSSIBLE.
I don't think so. It''s how hydrogen atoms formed.
As soon as the temperature of the early expansion
cooled, protons and neutrons could from, then
electrons and photos with further cooling, and
then hydrogen and helium.The universe evolved
from there. The universe has zero total energy
due to negative gravity. Local variations in energy
states is observed (take your temperature).
Zero total energy is an awkward hypothesis. There is energy between both
directions of anything, Goofy. There is a force holding them both together.
The atheist nutcase proton: something can come from nothing. All you
have to say is nothing is not nothing. :-).
The big problem for them is "something." Something exists, and
something cannot come from nothing. But here is their biggest problem,
finding a something that is a nothing or all is lost. :-).
Hence, the "universe zero total energy" wank.
Futility fruitcakes, searching for a nothing in a something.
Serves them right.
Word salad.
:-). A ploy to try and find a reason to hide.

Where the rubber meets the road you have nothing.

Why you go nowhere is because you only eat your own vomit.

You...will...never...find...a...nothing...in...something...in...order...
to...explain...existence...Bubba. What do you think a vacuum
fluctuation is an attempt at? Yeah, trying to find a "nothing" in
"something!"

Clueless!

You don't even know what day it is and there you are on a keyboard
trying to sell a shit sandwich as though it were a gourmet dinner. :-).




Michael
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.
Michael McLean
2023-05-06 09:35:25 UTC
Permalink
JWS says...
JWS says...
Want an Ultimate Issue? How About the Origin of the Universe
by Andrew McDiarmid
We?re sharing ten of Stephen Meyer?s best recent interviews to celebrate the
paperback release of Return of the God Hypothesis. Today, it?s the king of clear
thinking, Mr. Dennis Prager, who hosts Dr. Meyer for an Ultimate Issues hour of
his popular daily radio show. The topic? Nothing less than the origin of the
universe!
https://evolutionnews.org/2023/05/want-an-ultimate-issue-how-about-the-origin-of-the-universe/
Let me guess?! "God did It?" (But, who created God??)
Dawn
You people say the same stupid, childish, ignorant, things again and
again, hoping things will change. :-).
For the thousandth time, God is eternal or nothing would be here.
Whys is dats?
Because, no thing can create itself. Nufing can be before it is, in
order to bring itself into being - protons included, you stubborn idiot.
And if you come out with the other insane atheist stupidity: stop time,
then you can talk about your widdle world being eternal.
Grow up!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Tryon
Read more!
Poor MX is lost forever in his made up
personal theology. Never having an
understanding of the most basic facts
of reality, he dwells on the construction
of fantastical ideas which allow him to
ignore reality and always be right, no
matter what. He's alone in the world
saying "no thing can create itself", and
"sumpin can't come frum nuttin.". He
will no doubt continue repeating these
phrases as his sole justification for
his moronic ideas.
Wanker.
"Sumpin can't come frum nuttin", you bloody fool.
Why do you keep saying this? Everyone know this.
Here's another one for you: "You can't push a rope".
and something can't create it self.
Prove it.
It's easy. If something does not exist, it
cannot do ANYTHING. And one of those
anythings is creating itself.
So, a non-existence is working hard on itself. :-).
You fool! :-).
Things are made from other things. Things are
"created" by using preexisting mass and natural
forces that bring that mass together.
Where did the pre existing mass come from?
The virtual particles of the Cosmos which
are infinite and eternal because (get ready for it),
there cannot be nothing.
Of course, because we are here, but there cannot be a thing that created
itself!
YES! That's right. Can you fucking hear me?
I know exactly what you are saying, Buddy, but you don't.
Eternal God...YOU ARE NOT HEARING.
Yes, there is beyond you, existence beyond you! YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN OR
HEARD.
You strain at a gnat (science) and swallow a camel (your being, who you
are, what you are, a personal being). Where did this personal being
come from? A proton colliding with a virtual particle on the way to
zero net gravity Mardi Gras of a something manufacturing itself.
You fuckin' ignorant fool!
No thing can create itself,
YES! This is correct. No one is disagreeing with you, moron.
non-existence cannot bring ITSELF
forth to existence.
Yes. That is correct. Do you understand?
It is common sense.
It's more than common sense.
Eternal God - it always ends up
there no matter what path you are on.
Now you are fantasizing again.
I've told you this before. When are you going to
assimilate new knowledge? If you don't like the
answer, quit asking the question.
New knowledge??? You are talking pure bullshit, you wanker! :-).
Suck my balls, bitch.
But have no fear, I know how you can pull a rabbit out of hat, with no
magician, no hat, and no rabbit.
You don't know shit about anything.
All you have to do is stop the finite and stop time.
Easy for the atheist! :-).
You are talking absolute bullshit, JWS, pretending you have something in
your pocket when you have nothing. And nothing is nothing, it ain't
something!
Damn, you are just dumb fuck to the core.
:-). We both know you haven't got one.
One what?
What's that?
What's that?
A context of sanity.
Context might help you if you could ever grasp one.
If you had the brain you imagine you had, you would know there cannot be
a nothing because of a something, anymore than there CANNOT be a
personal without a Personal.
WTF???
Do the math, genius.
What math?
1 (personal being) x 1 (existence) = 1 (a personal Creator)
What's wrong with your mind?
You are really funny. You are clown in a fairground calling me a clown!
:-).

Dear Mr Impersonal Vacuum Fluctuation, you still can't have a "fluct"
without a "Flucter". As you agreed, no thing can create itself.

I should thank you. Thank you. I can see more clearly what you wanker,
lying, fool atheists are doing now, thanks to our "exchange."

You are trying to find a "nothing" in a "something" in order to explain
the universe's existence. Dawkins, Hutchins, Hawking, Krauss, etc.,
etc. all tried and failed miserably!

You are just their donkey following a carrot over the cliff.

All roads lead to Rome! Nothing new under the sun. It all boils down to
the same ol' thang from the beginning: I want to be God!

No, you can't; the clay cannot be the Potter!

So, "there has never been a nothing," big deal atheist! You're a
genius, there has always been an eternal Creator.

:-).

It is still makes no difference what you wankers say or do, you morons
are never going to find a "nothing" in a "something" to be able to
reason existence by its own power.

You are cursed by your own ignorant own-ness!

Serves you right!





Michael
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.
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