Discussion:
Genesis - Chapter Five
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Michael McLean
2023-02-09 23:16:50 UTC
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There are a lot of older people here from Adam's generation. The rest of
the world was necessarily powering on.

But God still blessed them all despite the way He had been treated and,
no doubt, was continuing to be treated.  However, not by all, as we
shall see. While we are here, God has heard many say in their hearts,
"How long, oh Lord?" If anyone should be feeling the weight of that, it
is Him!

So they multiplied and died over a long period of time. Some argue that
the earth was much purer environmentally (e.g., O2 was much closer to
100%) back then, but I digress.

Along came Enoch, who lived a lot less than all the others.

Gen 5:21  And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
Gen 5:22  And Enoch walked with God AFTER he begat Methuselah three
hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
Gen 5:23  And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five
years:
Gen 5:24  And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

There are several interpretations of the name Enoch: inaugurated,
trained, dedicated, experienced, and discernment. However, there was no
doubt that he was experienced in knowing God and was dedicated to
walking with God in Person.

It appears that the birth of Enoch's son was the tipping point. To gaze
upon this son and realise where that life came from (Genesis 4:1). So he
chose to call upon the Lord to walk with Him. A "human life" and all
that that life entails are all that you need to know; there is a God!

Rom_10:13  For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be
saved.

You will find, if you CHOOSE to walk with the Lord...

Joh 21:18  Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou
girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou
shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands [as a child], and
another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither THOU WOULDEST NOT.

...if you walk with the Lord, He will take you out of the world, as He
did with Enoch; that is Enoch's testimony.

Enoch did not walk with something written about God, but with God.  If
you ask, seek, and knock with a heart touched like Enoch, seeing God in
all that is made, God will appear in unexpected ways in the unique daily
life He only gave you.

And so on to Noah and the necessary great reset.





Michael
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.
Ted
2023-02-10 01:01:23 UTC
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 10:16:50 +1100, Michael McLean
Post by Michael McLean
There are a lot of older people here from Adam's generation. The rest of
the world was necessarily powering on.
But God still blessed them all despite the way He had been treated and,
no doubt, was continuing to be treated.  However, not by all, as we
shall see. While we are here, God has heard many say in their
hearts,
Post by Michael McLean
"How long, oh Lord?" If anyone should be feeling the weight of
that, it
Post by Michael McLean
is Him!
So they multiplied and died over a long period of time. Some argue that
the earth was much purer environmentally (e.g., O2 was much closer to
100%) back then, but I digress.
Along came Enoch, who lived a lot less than all the others.
Gen 5:21  And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat
Gen 5:22  And Enoch walked with God AFTER he begat Methuselah three
Gen 5:23  And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five
Gen 5:24  And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
There are several interpretations of the name Enoch: inaugurated,
trained, dedicated, experienced, and discernment. However, there was no
doubt that he was experienced in knowing God and was dedicated to
walking with God in Person.
It appears that the birth of Enoch's son was the tipping point. To gaze
upon this son and realise where that life came from (Genesis 4:1). So he
chose to call upon the Lord to walk with Him. A "human life" and all
that that life entails are all that you need to know; there is a God!
Rom_10:13  For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be
saved.
You will find, if you CHOOSE to walk with the Lord...
Joh 21:18  Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou
girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou
shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands [as a child], and
another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither THOU WOULDEST NOT.
...if you walk with the Lord, He will take you out of the world, as He
did with Enoch; that is Enoch's testimony.
Enoch did not walk with something written about God, but with God.  If
you ask, seek, and knock with a heart touched like Enoch, seeing God in
all that is made, God will appear in unexpected ways in the unique daily
life He only gave you.
And so on to Noah and the necessary great reset.
Michael
A ton of discussion in that chapter.
Michael McLean
2023-02-10 05:16:08 UTC
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Post by Ted
On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 10:16:50 +1100, Michael McLean
Post by Michael McLean
There are a lot of older people here from Adam's generation. The
rest of
Post by Michael McLean
the world was necessarily powering on.
But God still blessed them all despite the way He had been treated
and,
Post by Michael McLean
no doubt, was continuing to be treated.  However, not by all, as we
shall see. While we are here, God has heard many say in their
hearts,
Post by Michael McLean
"How long, oh Lord?" If anyone should be feeling the weight of
that, it
Post by Michael McLean
is Him!
So they multiplied and died over a long period of time. Some argue
that
Post by Michael McLean
the earth was much purer environmentally (e.g., O2 was much closer
to
Post by Michael McLean
100%) back then, but I digress.
Along came Enoch, who lived a lot less than all the others.
Gen 5:21  And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat
Gen 5:22  And Enoch walked with God AFTER he begat Methuselah three
Gen 5:23  And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and
five
Post by Michael McLean
Gen 5:24  And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took
him.
Post by Michael McLean
There are several interpretations of the name Enoch: inaugurated,
trained, dedicated, experienced, and discernment. However, there
was no
Post by Michael McLean
doubt that he was experienced in knowing God and was dedicated to
walking with God in Person.
It appears that the birth of Enoch's son was the tipping point. To
gaze
Post by Michael McLean
upon this son and realise where that life came from (Genesis 4:1).
So he
Post by Michael McLean
chose to call upon the Lord to walk with Him. A "human life" and
all
Post by Michael McLean
that that life entails are all that you need to know; there is a
God!
Post by Michael McLean
Rom_10:13  For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall
be
Post by Michael McLean
saved.
You will find, if you CHOOSE to walk with the Lord...
Joh 21:18  Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young,
thou
Post by Michael McLean
girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou
shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands [as a child], and
another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither THOU WOULDEST NOT.
...if you walk with the Lord, He will take you out of the world, as
He
Post by Michael McLean
did with Enoch; that is Enoch's testimony.
Enoch did not walk with something written about God, but with God.
If
Post by Michael McLean
you ask, seek, and knock with a heart touched like Enoch, seeing
God in
Post by Michael McLean
all that is made, God will appear in unexpected ways in the unique
daily
Post by Michael McLean
life He only gave you.
And so on to Noah and the necessary great reset.
Michael
A ton of discussion in that chapter.
Indeed, with all of Genesis.

And I have a feeling there is a hell of a lot more to come; pardon the
pun. The more it goes on, the more more.  What I put in the posts is
just a flyover.

I am interested to know "more" about the flood; it is one mother of a
thing to occur! If I get something "more" I will share it.

However, my antagonists get this for their reward...

Mar 4:12  That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they
may hear, and not understand;...

..."more" of it.

Oh, I suppose I better put the rest of the verse, but I can't see it
happening...

...lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be
forgiven them."





Michael
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.
Jack Sovalot
2023-02-11 07:30:01 UTC
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 16:16:08 +1100, Michael McLean
Post by Michael McLean
Post by Ted
On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 10:16:50 +1100, Michael McLean
Post by Michael McLean
There are a lot of older people here from Adam's generation. The
rest of
Post by Michael McLean
the world was necessarily powering on.
But God still blessed them all despite the way He had been
treated
Post by Michael McLean
Post by Ted
and,
Post by Michael McLean
no doubt, was continuing to be treated.  However, not by all, as we
shall see. While we are here, God has heard many say in their
hearts,
Post by Michael McLean
"How long, oh Lord?" If anyone should be feeling the weight of
that, it
Post by Michael McLean
is Him!
So they multiplied and died over a long period of time. Some argue
that
Post by Michael McLean
the earth was much purer environmentally (e.g., O2 was much
closer
Post by Michael McLean
Post by Ted
to
Post by Michael McLean
100%) back then, but I digress.
Along came Enoch, who lived a lot less than all the others.
Gen 5:21  And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat
Gen 5:22  And Enoch walked with God AFTER he begat Methuselah three
Gen 5:23  And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and
five
Post by Michael McLean
Gen 5:24  And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took
him.
inaugurated,
Post by Michael McLean
Post by Ted
Post by Michael McLean
trained, dedicated, experienced, and discernment. However, there
was no
Post by Michael McLean
doubt that he was experienced in knowing God and was dedicated to
walking with God in Person.
It appears that the birth of Enoch's son was the tipping point. To
gaze
Post by Michael McLean
upon this son and realise where that life came from (Genesis 4:1).
So he
Post by Michael McLean
chose to call upon the Lord to walk with Him. A "human life" and
all
Post by Michael McLean
that that life entails are all that you need to know; there is a
God!
Post by Michael McLean
Rom_10:13  For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall
be
Post by Michael McLean
saved.
You will find, if you CHOOSE to walk with the Lord...
Joh 21:18  Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast
young,
Post by Michael McLean
Post by Ted
thou
Post by Michael McLean
girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou
shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands [as a child], and
another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither THOU WOULDEST NOT.
...if you walk with the Lord, He will take you out of the world, as
He
Post by Michael McLean
did with Enoch; that is Enoch's testimony.
Enoch did not walk with something written about God, but with God.
If
Post by Michael McLean
you ask, seek, and knock with a heart touched like Enoch, seeing
God in
Post by Michael McLean
all that is made, God will appear in unexpected ways in the
unique
Post by Michael McLean
Post by Ted
daily
Post by Michael McLean
life He only gave you.
And so on to Noah and the necessary great reset.
Michael
A ton of discussion in that chapter.
Indeed, with all of Genesis.
True enough. This genealogy, though, refers to legendary characters,
each with a lot of additional info, most of which is now lost.

Enoch, for example, was once a sun god, which is why he walked with
God and why his lifespan was 365 years.
Post by Michael McLean
And I have a feeling there is a hell of a lot more to come; pardon the
pun. The more it goes on, the more more.  What I put in the posts is
just a flyover.
Sure, necessarily.
Post by Michael McLean
I am interested to know "more" about the flood; it is one mother of a
thing to occur! If I get something "more" I will share it.
However, my antagonists get this for their reward...
Mar 4:12  That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they
may hear, and not understand;...
LOL.
Post by Michael McLean
..."more" of it.
Oh, I suppose I better put the rest of the verse, but I can't see it
happening...
...lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be
forgiven them."
Michael
LOL. Yeah, I agree, fuck 'em.

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