Discussion:
The JW James justification for being a sinner.
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Michael Christ
2023-11-11 20:45:09 UTC
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"Oh, all men are sinners."

In other words, all men whore, so whoring is normal.

I know, I know, all religious types say that if you are trying to do
better, it is proof you are better.

Really?

What is the difference between doing what a whore does and doing what a
whore does?

Would someone like to explain the difference?






Michael Christ
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind, because what do you have that is lasting? It is not so much
being punished, it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God, a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"
James
2023-11-12 12:28:38 UTC
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 07:45:09 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
"Oh, all men are sinners."
Absolutely:


Job 14:4, "Who can bring what is pure from the impure? No one!" (NIV)

1 Jo 1:8, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and
the truth is not in us." (KJV)

Ro 3:23, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,"
(NIV)

Ec 7:20, "There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right
and never sins." (NIV)

Sincerely James,
Earth is here
FOREVER,
Go to jw.org.
11/12/23
Post by Michael Christ
In other words, all men whore, so whoring is normal.
I know, I know, all religious types say that if you are trying to do
better, it is proof you are better.
Really?
What is the difference between doing what a whore does and doing what a
whore does?
Would someone like to explain the difference?
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
2023-11-12 21:51:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by James
On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 07:45:09 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
"Oh, all men are sinners."
Gleefully happy with his perfect, no-blind-side, whore behaviour theology.
Post by James
Job 14:4, "Who can bring what is pure from the impure? No one!" (NIV)
Old Testament. Yes, there is One! The lion of the tribe of Judah,
there was One worthy to open the seals. God can, and does through the
death of the old nature. With Him all things a possible.

Choose to be a believer instead of a lying sinning whore who is trying
to justify himself as...he...is, Sinner James.
Post by James
1 Jo 1:8, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and
the truth is not in us." (KJV)
5, 6, 7 mean nothing?

Verse plucker to suit your sinful state.

So you have must have sin in you to have the truth in you?

So, what are you walking in? The sinning truth? The truth that you whore?
Post by James
Ro 3:23, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,"
(NIV)
Sinned, not an excuse to remain sinning; not, 'for all keep on sinning.'
Post by James
Ec 7:20, "There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right
and never sins." (NIV)
Old Testament. There is a new and living way now, and that is not
remaining in the state of a filthy sinning whore.
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
In other words, all men whore, so whoring is normal.
I know, I know, all religious types say that if you are trying to do
better, it is proof you are better.
Really?
What is the difference between doing what a whore does and doing what a
whore does?
Would someone like to explain the difference?
Notice how our sinner religion, whore James ignores the above?

No excuses.

What is the difference between a whore and a whore, Sinner James?

What? You thinking you are a sinner but that is not whoredom?

Yeah, right, Buddy.





Michael Christ
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind, because what do you have that is lasting? It is not so much
being punished, it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God, a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"
James
2023-11-13 05:30:39 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 08:51:04 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 07:45:09 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
"Oh, all men are sinners."
Gleefully happy with his perfect, no-blind-side, whore behaviour theology.
Post by James
Job 14:4, "Who can bring what is pure from the impure? No one!" (NIV)
Old Testament. Yes, there is One! The lion of the tribe of Judah,
there was One worthy to open the seals. God can, and does through the
death of the old nature. With Him all things a possible.
"No one", is part of the Scripture at Job 14:4. Do you really want to
contradict it?
Post by Michael Christ
Choose to be a believer instead of a lying sinning whore who is trying
to justify himself as...he...is, Sinner James.
I choose to follow God's inspired word, the Holy Bible. (2 Tim 3:16)
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
1 Jo 1:8, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and
the truth is not in us." (KJV)
5, 6, 7 mean nothing?
They mean what they say. And I fully agree.
Post by Michael Christ
Verse plucker to suit your sinful state.
Jesus set the example by being a "Verse plucker".
Post by Michael Christ
So you have must have sin in you to have the truth in you?
The Bible also calls imperfection, sin. For proof see:

-- Revised Standard
Job 14:4 Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? There is not
one.
Post by Michael Christ
So, what are you walking in? The sinning truth? The truth that you whore?
I am walking in Bible truth. Something that you should be doing as
well.
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Ro 3:23, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,"
(NIV)
Sinned, not an excuse to remain sinning; not, 'for all keep on sinning.'
As long as you are imperfect, you are living in sin.
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Ec 7:20, "There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right
and never sins." (NIV)
Old Testament. There is a new and living way now, and that is not
remaining in the state of a filthy sinning whore.
ALL Scripture is beneficial to us. (2 Tim 3:16)

-- Revised Standard
1 John 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the
truth is not in us.

Sincerely James,
Earth is here
FOREVER,
Go to jw.org.
11/13/23
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
In other words, all men whore, so whoring is normal.
I know, I know, all religious types say that if you are trying to do
better, it is proof you are better.
Really?
What is the difference between doing what a whore does and doing what a
whore does?
Would someone like to explain the difference?
Notice how our sinner religion, whore James ignores the above?
No excuses.
What is the difference between a whore and a whore, Sinner James?
What? You thinking you are a sinner but that is not whoredom?
Yeah, right, Buddy.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
2023-11-13 08:06:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by James
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 08:51:04 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 07:45:09 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
"Oh, all men are sinners."
Gleefully happy with his perfect, no-blind-side, whore behaviour theology.
Post by James
Job 14:4, "Who can bring what is pure from the impure? No one!" (NIV)
Old Testament. Yes, there is One! The lion of the tribe of Judah,
there was One worthy to open the seals. God can, and does through the
death of the old nature. With Him all things a possible.
"No one", is part of the Scripture at Job 14:4. Do you really want to
contradict it?
If the Old Testament was all there is, then the New Testament is
obsolete, Buddy.

In your sinful state you are ignorant of Job's end...

Job 42:5  I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine
eye seeth thee.
Job 42:6  Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.

His mouth was silenced. It is pity your sinful mouth is not.
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Choose to be a believer instead of a lying sinning whore who is trying
to justify himself as...he...is, Sinner James.
I choose to follow God's inspired word, the Holy Bible. (2 Tim 3:16)
2 Tim 3:17.

And you don't "follow" by God's standards, you sin! That means you are
a lying whore.

Oh everyone sins does not cut it with God, Buddy boy!!!
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
1 Jo 1:8, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and
the truth is not in us." (KJV)
5, 6, 7 mean nothing?
They mean what they say. And I fully agree.
You are ignorant in your sinful state.


1Jn 1:5  This then is the message which we have heard of him, and
declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
1Jn 1:6  If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in
darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
1Jn 1:7  But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have
fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son
cleanseth us from all sin.

If you say you have say you have fellowship with Him and you sin, you
are a lying whore. But...1Jn 8:10, Sinner James.

Get it yet, Sinner Know-it-all?
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Verse plucker to suit your sinful state.
Jesus set the example by being a "Verse plucker".
You are the verse plucking sinner, lying sinful whore.
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
So you have must have sin in you to have the truth in you?
The Bible calls imperfection not loving God with all your heart, soul,
and mind.

If you were a son of God you would know that.

Lose your life of sin.

Luk_9:24  For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever
will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
Post by James
-- Revised Standard
Job 14:4 Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? There is not
one.
Post by Michael Christ
So, what are you walking in? The sinning truth? The truth that you whore?
I am walking in Bible truth.
Liar! You sin!
Post by James
Something that you should be doing as
well.
Hypocrite whore.
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Ro 3:23, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,"
(NIV)
Sinned, not an excuse to remain sinning; not, 'for all keep on sinning.'
As long as you are imperfect, you are living in sin.
Every son of God is perfect. There are no whores in Christ Jesus.

2 Tim 3:17, a son of God has been perfected by God. With God, all
things are possible.
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Ec 7:20, "There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right
and never sins." (NIV)
Old Testament. There is a new and living way now, and that is not
remaining in the state of a filthy sinning whore.
ALL Scripture is beneficial to us. (2 Tim 3:16)
-- Revised Standard
1 John 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the
truth is not in us.
So, the truth is in you because you sin? :-). Eh? Verse plucker?

You are flogging a sinful dead horse, verse plucking lying sinning whore.

No excuses; you can't win, sinful religious sin-justifying whore. And
you think you are better than the other religions?????????





Michael Christ
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
In other words, all men whore, so whoring is normal.
I know, I know, all religious types say that if you are trying to do
better, it is proof you are better.
Really?
What is the difference between doing what a whore does and doing what a
whore does?
Would someone like to explain the difference?
Notice how our sinner religion, whore James ignores the above?
No excuses.
What is the difference between a whore and a whore, Sinner James?
What? You thinking you are a sinner but that is not whoredom?
Yeah, right, Buddy.
Michael Christ
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind, because what do you have that is lasting? It is not so much
being punished, it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God, a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"
James
2023-11-13 10:09:12 UTC
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 19:06:10 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 08:51:04 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 07:45:09 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
"Oh, all men are sinners."
Gleefully happy with his perfect, no-blind-side, whore behaviour theology.
Post by James
Job 14:4, "Who can bring what is pure from the impure? No one!" (NIV)
Old Testament. Yes, there is One! The lion of the tribe of Judah,
there was One worthy to open the seals. God can, and does through the
death of the old nature. With Him all things a possible.
"No one", is part of the Scripture at Job 14:4. Do you really want to
contradict it?
If the Old Testament was all there is, then the New Testament is
obsolete, Buddy.
Not according to the Bible. In case you missed it, 2 Tim 3:16 says:

"All Scripture is inspired"
"All Scripture is inspired"
"All Scripture is inspired"

"All" Scripture means the whole OT and at MINIMUM the NT Bible books
completed at the time the apostle Paul wrote 2 Tim 3:16.
Post by Michael Christ
In your sinful state you are ignorant of Job's end...
Job 42:5  I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine
eye seeth thee.
Job 42:6  Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.
His mouth was silenced. It is pity your sinful mouth is not.
Bible truths should never be silenced!
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Choose to be a believer instead of a lying sinning whore who is trying
to justify himself as...he...is, Sinner James.
I choose to follow God's inspired word, the Holy Bible. (2 Tim 3:16)
2 Tim 3:17.
And you don't "follow" by God's standards, you sin! That means you are
a lying whore.
Oh everyone sins does not cut it with God, Buddy boy!!!
Actually, quoting Scripture DOES cut it with Jehovah.
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
1 Jo 1:8, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and
the truth is not in us." (KJV)
5, 6, 7 mean nothing?
They mean what they say. And I fully agree.
You are ignorant in your sinful state.
1Jn 1:5  This then is the message which we have heard of him, and
declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
1Jn 1:6  If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in
1Jn 1:7  But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have
fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son
cleanseth us from all sin.
If you say you have say you have fellowship with Him and you sin, you
are a lying whore. But...1Jn 8:10, Sinner James.
Get it yet, Sinner Know-it-all?
I am sorry you don't understand those simple Bible truths. ALL men
sin. They all are imperfect. We need Jesus' sacrifice to erase those
sins as they happen.
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Verse plucker to suit your sinful state.
Jesus set the example by being a "Verse plucker".
You are the verse plucking sinner, lying sinful whore.
Here is what real Christians go by: Eph 4:29,

"Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only
what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that
it may benefit those who listen." (NIV)
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
So you have must have sin in you to have the truth in you?
The Bible calls imperfection not loving God with all your heart, soul,
and mind.
We all received "sin" from our 1st human father, Adam.

-- Revised Standard
Romans 5:12 Therefore as sin came into the world through one man and
death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men
sinned--
Post by Michael Christ
If you were a son of God you would know that.
Lose your life of sin.
The Bible shows it is impossible since we are all still imperfect.
Even you.
Post by Michael Christ
Luk_9:24  For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever
will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
Post by James
-- Revised Standard
Job 14:4 Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? There is not
one.
Post by Michael Christ
So, what are you walking in? The sinning truth? The truth that you whore?
I am walking in Bible truth.
Liar! You sin!
Of course I do, and so do you and every other imperfect human. THAT IS
WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES. (not shouting-- just for emphasis)
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Something that you should be doing as
well.
Hypocrite whore.
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Ro 3:23, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,"
(NIV)
Sinned, not an excuse to remain sinning; not, 'for all keep on sinning.'
As long as you are imperfect, you are living in sin.
Every son of God is perfect. There are no whores in Christ Jesus.
2 Tim 3:17, a son of God has been perfected by God. With God, all
things are possible.
God can't do literally all things. For example God cannot lie.
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Ec 7:20, "There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right
and never sins." (NIV)
Old Testament. There is a new and living way now, and that is not
remaining in the state of a filthy sinning whore.
ALL Scripture is beneficial to us. (2 Tim 3:16)
-- Revised Standard
1 John 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the
truth is not in us.
So, the truth is in you because you sin? :-). Eh? Verse plucker?
You are flogging a sinful dead horse, verse plucking lying sinning whore.
You seriously need to read Eph 4:29.
Post by Michael Christ
No excuses; you can't win, sinful religious sin-justifying whore. And
you think you are better than the other religions?????????
Absolutely, positively if they don't teach Bible truths. For instance,
most Churches teach of a fire-torturing eternal place showing God to
be a sadist. BUT HE IS NOT. He is a God of love:

-- Revised Standard
1 John 4:8 He who does not love does not know God; for God is love.

Sincerely James,
Earth is here
FOREVER,
Go to jw.org.
11/13/23
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
In other words, all men whore, so whoring is normal.
I know, I know, all religious types say that if you are trying to do
better, it is proof you are better.
Really?
What is the difference between doing what a whore does and doing what a
whore does?
Would someone like to explain the difference?
Notice how our sinner religion, whore James ignores the above?
No excuses.
What is the difference between a whore and a whore, Sinner James?
What? You thinking you are a sinner but that is not whoredom?
Yeah, right, Buddy.
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
2023-11-13 10:20:43 UTC
Permalink
(snip)

I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy.

Sinner JW James.
Post by James
I am walking in Bible truth.
Liar! You sin!

That makes you a spiritual whore giving her brothel advice.

If you knew God you would know God never compromises, Sinner JW Jim.




Michael Christ
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind, because what do you have that is lasting? It is not so much
being punished, it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God, a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"
James
2023-11-16 15:15:16 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:20:43 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
(snip)
I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy.
Guess what. In all honesty, I get tired of people contradicting the
Holy Bible!
Post by Michael Christ
Sinner JW James.
Post by James
I am walking in Bible truth.
Liar! You sin!
That makes you a spiritual whore giving her brothel advice.
If you knew God you would know God never compromises, Sinner JW Jim.
I never said He did. You can't bribe God, but you can persuade Him to
change His mind if He wants to.

Sorry, but to be blunt, Satan has a firm grip on you. I can only hope
and pray you can let some Bible light get through for starters.

Sincerely James,
What is "The End"?
Go to jw.org.
11/16/23
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
2023-11-16 20:59:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by James
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:20:43 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
(snip)
I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy.
Guess what. In all honesty, I get tired of people contradicting the
Holy Bible!
"In all honesty," what a laugh! You are a joke, Fella!

Just look at this self-righteous whore display her wares!

A sinner contradicts the Word of God every day!

Sheesh, these people are totally blind!

"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy."

Where are the true wholehearted believers?

Where?

All I see are sinners trying to justify themselves as they are!
Compromisers!

God does not compromise!!!





Michael Christ
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Sinner JW James.
Post by James
I am walking in Bible truth.
Liar! You sin!
That makes you a spiritual whore giving her brothel advice.
If you knew God you would know God never compromises, Sinner JW Jim.
I never said He did. You can't bribe God, but you can persuade Him to
change His mind if He wants to.
Sorry, but to be blunt, Satan has a firm grip on you. I can only hope
and pray you can let some Bible light get through for starters.
Sincerely James,
What is "The End"?
Go to jw.org.
11/16/23
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind, because what do you have that is lasting? It is not so much
being punished, it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God, a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"
James
2023-11-17 11:28:43 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 07:59:21 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:20:43 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
(snip)
I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy.
Guess what. In all honesty, I get tired of people contradicting the
Holy Bible!
"In all honesty," what a laugh! You are a joke, Fella!
Just look at this self-righteous whore display her wares!
A sinner contradicts the Word of God every day!
Sheesh, these people are totally blind!
"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy."
Where are the true wholehearted believers?
Where?
All I see are sinners trying to justify themselves as they are!
Compromisers!
God does not compromise!!!
And God hates liars. Pr 6:16-19,

"16. These six things the Lord hates, yes, seven are an abomination
to Him:
17. A proud look, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood,
18. a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that are swift in
running to evil,
19. a false witness who speaks lies, and one who sows discord among
brethren."

Sincerely James,
Why do humans
injure each other?
Go to jw.org
11/17/23
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Sinner JW James.
Post by James
I am walking in Bible truth.
Liar! You sin!
That makes you a spiritual whore giving her brothel advice.
If you knew God you would know God never compromises, Sinner JW Jim.
I never said He did. You can't bribe God, but you can persuade Him to
change His mind if He wants to.
Sorry, but to be blunt, Satan has a firm grip on you. I can only hope
and pray you can let some Bible light get through for starters.
Sincerely James,
What is "The End"?
Go to jw.org.
11/16/23
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
2023-11-17 20:44:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by James
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 07:59:21 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:20:43 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
(snip)
I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy.
Guess what. In all honesty, I get tired of people contradicting the
Holy Bible!
"In all honesty," what a laugh! You are a joke, Fella!
Just look at this self-righteous whore display her wares!
A sinner contradicts the Word of God every day!
Sheesh, these people are totally blind!
"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy."
Where are the true wholehearted believers?
Where?
All I see are sinners trying to justify themselves as they are!
Compromisers!
God does not compromise!!!
And God hates liars. Pr 6:16-19,
"16. These six things the Lord hates, yes, seven are an abomination
17. A proud look, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood,
18. a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that are swift in
running to evil,
19. a false witness who speaks lies, and one who sows discord among
brethren."
What do you think a sinner is, Oh glorious whore???!!!

You are sickeningly self-righteousness, Filthy Lying Whore Sinner
Insincere James. It is just business, Buddy. The truth. That is what
you are.

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology."

You are a sinner, James, and there you are quoting Bible verses. I
know, I know, I know, every religious hypocrite is doing it and that is
your guide!

Unfortunately.

Perhaps if you abhor yourself and repent in dust and ashes God will
reveal the reality of your filth to you? One can only hope.






Michael Christ
Post by James
Sincerely James,
Why do humans
injure each other?
Go to jw.org
11/17/23
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Sinner JW James.
Post by James
I am walking in Bible truth.
Liar! You sin!
That makes you a spiritual whore giving her brothel advice.
If you knew God you would know God never compromises, Sinner JW Jim.
I never said He did. You can't bribe God, but you can persuade Him to
change His mind if He wants to.
Sorry, but to be blunt, Satan has a firm grip on you. I can only hope
and pray you can let some Bible light get through for starters.
Sincerely James,
What is "The End"?
Go to jw.org.
11/16/23
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind, because what do you have that is lasting? It is not so much
being punished, it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God, a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"
James
2023-11-19 16:31:23 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 07:44:19 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 07:59:21 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:20:43 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
(snip)
I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy.
Guess what. In all honesty, I get tired of people contradicting the
Holy Bible!
"In all honesty," what a laugh! You are a joke, Fella!
Just look at this self-righteous whore display her wares!
A sinner contradicts the Word of God every day!
Sheesh, these people are totally blind!
"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy."
Where are the true wholehearted believers?
Where?
All I see are sinners trying to justify themselves as they are!
Compromisers!
God does not compromise!!!
And God hates liars. Pr 6:16-19,
"16. These six things the Lord hates, yes, seven are an abomination
17. A proud look, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood,
18. a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that are swift in
running to evil,
19. a false witness who speaks lies, and one who sows discord among
brethren."
What do you think a sinner is, Oh glorious whore???!!!
You are sickeningly self-righteousness, Filthy Lying Whore Sinner
Insincere James. It is just business, Buddy. The truth. That is what
you are.
"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."
"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"
"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology."
You are a sinner, James, and there you are quoting Bible verses. I
know, I know, I know, every religious hypocrite is doing it and that is
your guide!
Unfortunately.
Perhaps if you abhor yourself and repent in dust and ashes God will
reveal the reality of your filth to you? One can only hope.
If you don't change, you are going to be completely floored when the
end comes. Really and truly. Don't say you were not warned!

Sincerely James,
Why do humans
injure each other?
Go to jw.org
11/19/23
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Post by James
Sincerely James,
Why do humans
injure each other?
Go to jw.org
11/17/23
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Sinner JW James.
Post by James
I am walking in Bible truth.
Liar! You sin!
That makes you a spiritual whore giving her brothel advice.
If you knew God you would know God never compromises, Sinner JW Jim.
I never said He did. You can't bribe God, but you can persuade Him to
change His mind if He wants to.
Sorry, but to be blunt, Satan has a firm grip on you. I can only hope
and pray you can let some Bible light get through for starters.
Sincerely James,
What is "The End"?
Go to jw.org.
11/16/23
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
2023-11-19 20:45:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by James
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 07:44:19 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 07:59:21 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:20:43 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
(snip)
I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy.
Guess what. In all honesty, I get tired of people contradicting the
Holy Bible!
"In all honesty," what a laugh! You are a joke, Fella!
Just look at this self-righteous whore display her wares!
A sinner contradicts the Word of God every day!
Sheesh, these people are totally blind!
"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy."
Where are the true wholehearted believers?
Where?
All I see are sinners trying to justify themselves as they are!
Compromisers!
God does not compromise!!!
And God hates liars. Pr 6:16-19,
"16. These six things the Lord hates, yes, seven are an abomination
17. A proud look, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood,
18. a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that are swift in
running to evil,
19. a false witness who speaks lies, and one who sows discord among
brethren."
What do you think a sinner is, Oh glorious whore???!!!
You are sickeningly self-righteousness, Filthy Lying Whore Sinner
Insincere James. It is just business, Buddy. The truth. That is what
you are.
"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."
"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"
"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology."
You are a sinner, James, and there you are quoting Bible verses. I
know, I know, I know, every religious hypocrite is doing it and that is
your guide!
Unfortunately.
Perhaps if you abhor yourself and repent in dust and ashes God will
reveal the reality of your filth to you? One can only hope.
If you don't change, you are going to be completely floored when the
end comes. Really and truly. Don't say you were not warned!
And there you are in your sinner hypocrisy telling me that I have to
change?? It is you that will have to face your own words, Sinner James.

Are you not as other sinners are, Sinner James...

Luke 18:11  The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I
thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust,
adulterers, or even as this publican.
Post by James
I am walking in Bible truth.
No, you are not, you sin. Can it be any clearer?

Is God's standard of righteousness lower than yours?

Why is sin a lie?




Michael Christ
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind, because what do you have that is lasting? It is not so much
being punished, it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God, a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"
John Ritson
2023-11-20 11:36:13 UTC
Permalink
Post by James
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 07:44:19 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 07:59:21 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:20:43 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
(snip)
I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy.
Guess what. In all honesty, I get tired of people contradicting the
Holy Bible!
"In all honesty," what a laugh! You are a joke, Fella!
Just look at this self-righteous whore display her wares!
A sinner contradicts the Word of God every day!
Sheesh, these people are totally blind!
"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy."
Where are the true wholehearted believers?
Where?
All I see are sinners trying to justify themselves as they are!
Compromisers!
God does not compromise!!!
And God hates liars. Pr 6:16-19,
"16. These six things the Lord hates, yes, seven are an abomination
17. A proud look, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood,
18. a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that are swift in
running to evil,
19. a false witness who speaks lies, and one who sows discord among
brethren."
What do you think a sinner is, Oh glorious whore???!!!
You are sickeningly self-righteousness, Filthy Lying Whore Sinner
Insincere James. It is just business, Buddy. The truth. That is what
you are.
"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."
"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"
"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology."
You are a sinner, James, and there you are quoting Bible verses. I
know, I know, I know, every religious hypocrite is doing it and that is
your guide!
Unfortunately.
Perhaps if you abhor yourself and repent in dust and ashes God will
reveal the reality of your filth to you? One can only hope.
If you don't change, you are going to be completely floored when the
end comes. Really and truly. Don't say you were not warned!
Oh dear, you are obviously not up to date with the latest "new light"
from the Governing Body. They have now proclaimed that the judgement
will take place towards the end, thus giving plenty of time for
repentance.
So being a JW in good standing at the time of your death is not the only
way to salvation - according to the Governing Body. Getting rid of Tony
Morris has really altered the balance.
--
John Ritson
John Ritson
2023-11-18 11:58:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by James
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 07:59:21 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:20:43 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
(snip)
I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy.
Guess what. In all honesty, I get tired of people contradicting the
Holy Bible!
"In all honesty," what a laugh! You are a joke, Fella!
Just look at this self-righteous whore display her wares!
A sinner contradicts the Word of God every day!
Sheesh, these people are totally blind!
"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy."
Where are the true wholehearted believers?
Where?
All I see are sinners trying to justify themselves as they are!
Compromisers!
God does not compromise!!!
And God hates liars. Pr 6:16-19,
"16. These six things the Lord hates, yes, seven are an abomination
17. A proud look, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood,
18. a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that are swift in
running to evil,
19. a false witness who speaks lies, and one who sows discord among
brethren."
Gosh, all six are characteristics of the JW Governing Body.
--
John Ritson
James
2023-11-19 16:34:46 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 11:58:47 +0000, John Ritson
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 07:59:21 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:20:43 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
(snip)
I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy.
Guess what. In all honesty, I get tired of people contradicting the
Holy Bible!
"In all honesty," what a laugh! You are a joke, Fella!
Just look at this self-righteous whore display her wares!
A sinner contradicts the Word of God every day!
Sheesh, these people are totally blind!
"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy."
Where are the true wholehearted believers?
Where?
All I see are sinners trying to justify themselves as they are!
Compromisers!
God does not compromise!!!
And God hates liars. Pr 6:16-19,
"16. These six things the Lord hates, yes, seven are an abomination
17. A proud look, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood,
18. a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that are swift in
running to evil,
19. a false witness who speaks lies, and one who sows discord among
brethren."
Gosh, all six are characteristics of the JW Governing Body.
Your false OPINION is noted.

Sincerely James,
Why do humans
injure each other?
Go to jw.org
11/19/23
Michael Christ
2023-11-19 20:47:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by James
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 11:58:47 +0000, John Ritson
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 07:59:21 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:20:43 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
(snip)
I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy.
Guess what. In all honesty, I get tired of people contradicting the
Holy Bible!
"In all honesty," what a laugh! You are a joke, Fella!
Just look at this self-righteous whore display her wares!
A sinner contradicts the Word of God every day!
Sheesh, these people are totally blind!
"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy."
Where are the true wholehearted believers?
Where?
All I see are sinners trying to justify themselves as they are!
Compromisers!
God does not compromise!!!
And God hates liars. Pr 6:16-19,
"16. These six things the Lord hates, yes, seven are an abomination
17. A proud look, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood,
18. a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that are swift in
running to evil,
19. a false witness who speaks lies, and one who sows discord among
brethren."
Gosh, all six are characteristics of the JW Governing Body.
Your false OPINION is noted.
Are they not sinners, James?




Michael Christ
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind, because what do you have that is lasting? It is not so much
being punished, it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God, a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"
James
2023-11-23 00:18:01 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 07:47:21 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 11:58:47 +0000, John Ritson
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 07:59:21 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:20:43 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
(snip)
I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy.
Guess what. In all honesty, I get tired of people contradicting the
Holy Bible!
"In all honesty," what a laugh! You are a joke, Fella!
Just look at this self-righteous whore display her wares!
A sinner contradicts the Word of God every day!
Sheesh, these people are totally blind!
"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy."
Where are the true wholehearted believers?
Where?
All I see are sinners trying to justify themselves as they are!
Compromisers!
God does not compromise!!!
And God hates liars. Pr 6:16-19,
"16. These six things the Lord hates, yes, seven are an abomination
17. A proud look, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood,
18. a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that are swift in
running to evil,
19. a false witness who speaks lies, and one who sows discord among
brethren."
Gosh, all six are characteristics of the JW Governing Body.
Your false OPINION is noted.
Are they not sinners, James?
All men are sinners Michael, as the Bible says. And that includes the
"JW Governing Body". But there are thousands of types of sins. The
sins mentioned at Pr 6:16-19 does NOT apply to the Governing Body.

Sincerely James,
Why do humans
injure each other?
Go to jw.org
11/22/23
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
2023-11-23 07:30:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by James
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 07:47:21 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 11:58:47 +0000, John Ritson
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 07:59:21 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:20:43 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
(snip)
I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy.
Guess what. In all honesty, I get tired of people contradicting the
Holy Bible!
"In all honesty," what a laugh! You are a joke, Fella!
Just look at this self-righteous whore display her wares!
A sinner contradicts the Word of God every day!
Sheesh, these people are totally blind!
"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy."
Where are the true wholehearted believers?
Where?
All I see are sinners trying to justify themselves as they are!
Compromisers!
God does not compromise!!!
And God hates liars. Pr 6:16-19,
"16. These six things the Lord hates, yes, seven are an abomination
17. A proud look, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood,
18. a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that are swift in
running to evil,
19. a false witness who speaks lies, and one who sows discord among
brethren."
Gosh, all six are characteristics of the JW Governing Body.
Your false OPINION is noted.
Are they not sinners, James?
All men are sinners Michael, as the Bible says.
A son of God is not a whore, he is a new creature, James.

You'll learn that either in this life or the next.







Michael Christ



And that includes the
Post by James
"JW Governing Body". But there are thousands of types of sins. The
sins mentioned at Pr 6:16-19 does NOT apply to the Governing Body.
Sincerely James,
Why do humans
injure each other?
Go to jw.org
11/22/23
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind, because what do you have that is lasting? It is not so much
being punished, it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God, a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"
John Ritson
2023-11-20 14:15:12 UTC
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Post by James
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 11:58:47 +0000, John Ritson
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 07:59:21 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:20:43 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
(snip)
I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy.
Guess what. In all honesty, I get tired of people contradicting the
Holy Bible!
"In all honesty," what a laugh! You are a joke, Fella!
Just look at this self-righteous whore display her wares!
A sinner contradicts the Word of God every day!
Sheesh, these people are totally blind!
"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy."
Where are the true wholehearted believers?
Where?
All I see are sinners trying to justify themselves as they are!
Compromisers!
God does not compromise!!!
And God hates liars. Pr 6:16-19,
"16. These six things the Lord hates, yes, seven are an abomination
17. A proud look,
People who believe that they are going to paradise and everyone else
will burn - Yes.
Post by James
a lying tongue,
The Mexican scandal - Yes.
Post by James
hands that shed innocent blood,
The obsession with blood, leading to a ban on transfusions, or some
transfusions - Yes.
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
18. a heart that devises wicked plans
The cover-up of child abuse - Yes.
Post by James
, feet that are swift in
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
running to evil,
The endless doctrinal changes called "new" light, often changing back to
a previous doctrine - Yes.
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
19. a false witness who speaks lies,
The cover-up of child abuse - Yes.
Post by James
and one who sows discord among
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
brethren."
The power struggle that led to the purging of Tony Morris - Yes.
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Gosh, all six are characteristics of the JW Governing Body.
Your false OPINION is noted.
Sincerely James,
Why do humans
injure each other?
Go to jw.org
11/19/23
--
John Ritson
James
2023-11-23 01:11:37 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:15:12 +0000, John Ritson
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 11:58:47 +0000, John Ritson
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 07:59:21 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:20:43 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
(snip)
I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy.
Guess what. In all honesty, I get tired of people contradicting the
Holy Bible!
"In all honesty," what a laugh! You are a joke, Fella!
Just look at this self-righteous whore display her wares!
A sinner contradicts the Word of God every day!
Sheesh, these people are totally blind!
"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy."
Where are the true wholehearted believers?
Where?
All I see are sinners trying to justify themselves as they are!
Compromisers!
God does not compromise!!!
And God hates liars. Pr 6:16-19,
"16. These six things the Lord hates, yes, seven are an abomination
17. A proud look,
People who believe that they are going to paradise and everyone else
will burn - Yes.
Totally false. Many resurrected ones are not JW's, but they also can
get eternal life. JW's go by the Bible, and it teaches there is no
literal hellfire.
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
a lying tongue,
The Mexican scandal - Yes.
I am not familiar with it. How do I know what you say is a "lying
tongue"?
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
hands that shed innocent blood,
The obsession with blood, leading to a ban on transfusions, or some
transfusions - Yes.
No. The ban on blood is a BIBLE command, and real Christians obey all
the Bible. Notice:

-- New King James
Acts 15:20 "but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted
by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from
blood.

In other words: "abstain...from blood".
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
18. a heart that devises wicked plans
The cover-up of child abuse - Yes.
Opposers of JW's like to make that claim. The JW's have extensive data
on child abuse.
Notice:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses%27_handling_of_child_sex_abuse

It has some positive and negative things about JW's. The web page does
say,

"Some or all of this article's listed sources may not be reliable.
Please help this article by looking for better, more reliable sources,
or by checking whether the references meet the criteria for reliable
sources. Unreliable citations may be challenged or deleted. "
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
, feet that are swift in
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
running to evil,
The endless doctrinal changes called "new" light, often changing back to
a previous doctrine - Yes.
Wow, ENDLESS changes. That would mean tomorrow would be many different
doctrines.
At any rate, the true religion continually upgrades until they have
all the Bible truth. Notice:

-- Revised Standard
Proverbs 4:18 But the path of the righteous is like the light of
dawn, which shines brighter and brighter until full day.

Yes, JW's continually improve, whereas most of the churches stay
stagnated.
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
19. a false witness who speaks lies,
The cover-up of child abuse - Yes.
See info on this above.
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
and one who sows discord among
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
brethren."
The power struggle that led to the purging of Tony Morris - Yes.
To remove a member of the governing body shows that for JW's, no
position of power and authority
can override wrongdoing. As Paul said, "Purge the evil person from
your midst."
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Gosh, all six are characteristics of the JW Governing Body.
Golly Gee, no they are not.

Sincerely James,
Why do humans
injure each other?
Go to jw.org
11/22/23
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
Your false OPINION is noted.
Sincerely James,
Why do humans
injure each other?
Go to jw.org
11/19/23
John Ritson
2023-11-23 14:47:33 UTC
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Post by James
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:15:12 +0000, John Ritson
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 11:58:47 +0000, John Ritson
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 07:59:21 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:20:43 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
(snip)
I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy.
Guess what. In all honesty, I get tired of people contradicting the
Holy Bible!
"In all honesty," what a laugh! You are a joke, Fella!
Just look at this self-righteous whore display her wares!
A sinner contradicts the Word of God every day!
Sheesh, these people are totally blind!
"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy."
Where are the true wholehearted believers?
Where?
All I see are sinners trying to justify themselves as they are!
Compromisers!
God does not compromise!!!
And God hates liars. Pr 6:16-19,
"16. These six things the Lord hates, yes, seven are an abomination
17. A proud look,
People who believe that they are going to paradise and everyone else
will burn - Yes.
Totally false. Many resurrected ones are not JW's, but they also can
get eternal life. JW's go by the Bible, and it teaches there is no
literal hellfire.
Not burn eternally, but be destroyed by fire.
And modern JWs are encouraged to feel proud because they will have the
job of explaining things to the prophets!

"Samuel, I know you're grateful to be resurrected, but we don't offer
animal sacrifices any more,
so please put that knife down and leave that bull alone" - Governing
Body Member.
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
a lying tongue,
The Mexican scandal - Yes.
I am not familiar with it. How do I know what you say is a "lying
tongue"?
How soon you forget. Governing Body member Fred Franz approved a system
whereby Mexican JWs were encouraged to bribe officials to obtain false
documentation to claim they had done military service,
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
hands that shed innocent blood,
The obsession with blood, leading to a ban on transfusions, or some
transfusions - Yes.
No. The ban on blood is a BIBLE command, and real Christians obey all
-- New King James
Acts 15:20 "but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted
by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from
blood.
In other words: "abstain...from blood".
In other words "Abstain from drinking blood".
And the JW doctrine on blood has been all over the place. Permitting
transfusions, banning transfusions, allowing "blood components".
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
18. a heart that devises wicked plans
The cover-up of child abuse - Yes.
Opposers of JW's like to make that claim. The JW's have extensive data
on child abuse.
Which they fight tooth and nail to keep secret from the authorities.
Post by James
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses%27_handling_of_child_sex_abu
s
e
It has some positive and negative things about JW's. The web page does
say,
"Some or all of this article's listed sources may not be reliable.
Please help this article by looking for better, more reliable sources,
or by checking whether the references meet the criteria for reliable
sources. Unreliable citations may be challenged or deleted. "
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
, feet that are swift in
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
running to evil,
The endless doctrinal changes called "new" light, often changing back to
a previous doctrine - Yes.
Wow, ENDLESS changes. That would mean tomorrow would be many different
doctrines.
Often doctrine simply reverts to an older, once rejected version.
Post by James
At any rate, the true religion continually upgrades until they have
-- Revised Standard
Proverbs 4:18 But the path of the righteous is like the light of
dawn, which shines brighter and brighter until full day.
Yes, JW's continually improve, whereas most of the churches stay
stagnated.
But what happens when the JW doctrine simply reverts to an earlier
version?
Will some of the population of Sodom and Gomorra be saved? The sensible
answer might be Don't know/Don't care.
For the past century, JW doctrine has oscillated between a definite yes
and an equally definite no.
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
19. a false witness who speaks lies,
The cover-up of child abuse - Yes.
See info on this above.
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
and one who sows discord among
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
brethren."
The power struggle that led to the purging of Tony Morris - Yes.
To remove a member of the governing body shows that for JW's, no
position of power and authority
can override wrongdoing. As Paul said, "Purge the evil person from
your midst."
So sowing discord among brethren is approved.
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Gosh, all six are characteristics of the JW Governing Body.
Golly Gee, no they are not.
--
John Ritson
Jack Sovalot
2023-11-24 21:53:35 UTC
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On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 14:47:33 +0000, John Ritson
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:15:12 +0000, John Ritson
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 11:58:47 +0000, John Ritson
Post by James
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 07:59:21 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:20:43 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
(snip)
I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy.
Guess what. In all honesty, I get tired of people
contradicting the
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Holy Bible!
"In all honesty," what a laugh! You are a joke, Fella!
Just look at this self-righteous whore display her wares!
A sinner contradicts the Word of God every day!
Sheesh, these people are totally blind!
"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy."
Where are the true wholehearted believers?
Where?
All I see are sinners trying to justify themselves as they are!
Compromisers!
God does not compromise!!!
And God hates liars. Pr 6:16-19,
"16. These six things the Lord hates, yes, seven are an
abomination
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
Post by James
17. A proud look,
People who believe that they are going to paradise and everyone else
will burn - Yes.
Totally false. Many resurrected ones are not JW's, but they also can
get eternal life. JW's go by the Bible, and it teaches there is no
literal hellfire.
Not burn eternally, but be destroyed by fire.
And modern JWs are encouraged to feel proud because they will have the
job of explaining things to the prophets!
"Samuel, I know you're grateful to be resurrected, but we don't offer
animal sacrifices any more,
so please put that knife down and leave that bull alone" - Governing
Body Member.
LOL!
James
2024-01-10 19:33:14 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 14:47:33 +0000, John Ritson
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:15:12 +0000, John Ritson
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 11:58:47 +0000, John Ritson
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 07:59:21 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:20:43 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
(snip)
I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy.
Guess what. In all honesty, I get tired of people contradicting the
Holy Bible!
"In all honesty," what a laugh! You are a joke, Fella!
Just look at this self-righteous whore display her wares!
A sinner contradicts the Word of God every day!
Sheesh, these people are totally blind!
"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy."
Where are the true wholehearted believers?
Where?
All I see are sinners trying to justify themselves as they are!
Compromisers!
God does not compromise!!!
And God hates liars. Pr 6:16-19,
"16. These six things the Lord hates, yes, seven are an abomination
17. A proud look,
People who believe that they are going to paradise and everyone else
will burn - Yes.
Totally false. Many resurrected ones are not JW's, but they also can
get eternal life. JW's go by the Bible, and it teaches there is no
literal hellfire.
Not burn eternally, but be destroyed by fire.
The God of love (1 John 4:8) will not destroy the wicked by torture.
Compare being burned alive with just having your heart stop.
Post by John Ritson
And modern JWs are encouraged to feel proud because they will have the
job of explaining things to the prophets!
"Samuel, I know you're grateful to be resurrected, but we don't offer
animal sacrifices any more,
so please put that knife down and leave that bull alone" - Governing
Body Member.
Yes, I guess that could happen.
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
a lying tongue,
The Mexican scandal - Yes.
I am not familiar with it. How do I know what you say is a "lying
tongue"?
How soon you forget. Governing Body member Fred Franz approved a system
whereby Mexican JWs were encouraged to bribe officials to obtain false
documentation to claim they had done military service,
And your proof?
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
hands that shed innocent blood,
The obsession with blood, leading to a ban on transfusions, or some
transfusions - Yes.
No. The ban on blood is a BIBLE command, and real Christians obey all
-- New King James
Acts 15:20 "but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted
by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from
blood.
In other words: "abstain...from blood".
In other words "Abstain from drinking blood".
And the JW doctrine on blood has been all over the place. Permitting
transfusions, banning transfusions, allowing "blood components".
"abstain...from blood", means just that. Drinking, swimming in it,
taking a shower in it, shooting it in your veins, etc. Also, the
Egyptians had some way of doing a transfusion. The disciple James
would have been aware of this because of the Jews in exile there. Yet
James worded it like he did at Acts 15:20.

Think of this, If a doctor told you to abstain from caffeine, does
that mean you couldn't drink it, but could shoot it into your veins?

JW's are fulfilling Prov 4:18. What they did in the past may or may
not have been correct. But what counts is NOW. We are now just about
at the full "daylight" of Prov 4:18.
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
18. a heart that devises wicked plans
The cover-up of child abuse - Yes.
Opposers of JW's like to make that claim. The JW's have extensive data
on child abuse.
Which they fight tooth and nail to keep secret from the authorities.
We are not like the RCC that moved around their pedophiles, and swept
it under a rug.

Try this, name me one organization of any kind, containing millions,
who don't have lawbreakers in it. Also, JW's have to follow the Bible.
And if evidence proves a pedophile to be guilty, he would first be
removed from the congregation. And if the law said to turn him in,
that would also be done.
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses%27_handling_of_child_sex_abu
s
e
It has some positive and negative things about JW's. The web page does
say,
"Some or all of this article's listed sources may not be reliable.
Please help this article by looking for better, more reliable sources,
or by checking whether the references meet the criteria for reliable
sources. Unreliable citations may be challenged or deleted. "
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
, feet that are swift in
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
running to evil,
The endless doctrinal changes called "new" light, often changing back to
a previous doctrine - Yes.
Wow, ENDLESS changes. That would mean tomorrow would be many different
doctrines.
Often doctrine simply reverts to an older, once rejected version.
Post by James
At any rate, the true religion continually upgrades until they have
-- Revised Standard
Proverbs 4:18 But the path of the righteous is like the light of
dawn, which shines brighter and brighter until full day.
Yes, JW's continually improve, whereas most of the churches stay
stagnated.
But what happens when the JW doctrine simply reverts to an earlier
version?
If it's correct, what would you expect? If a doctor gave a medicine
that produced some bad side effects, he my quit giving it, and try
something else. But if the 2nd medicine didn't help, he may go back to
the first one. Remember Pr 4:18. The true religion gets better and
better as time goes on.
Post by John Ritson
Will some of the population of Sodom and Gomorra be saved? The sensible
answer might be Don't know/Don't care.
For the past century, JW doctrine has oscillated between a definite yes
and an equally definite no.
All I know is what the Bible says. Jude 7,

“So too Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities about them, after they in
the same manner as the foregoing ones had committed fornication
excessively and gone out after flesh for unnatural use, are placed
before us as a warning example by undergoing the judicial punishment
of everlasting fire.”

"everlasting fire", eternal destruction.
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
19. a false witness who speaks lies,
The cover-up of child abuse - Yes.
See info on this above.
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
and one who sows discord among
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
brethren."
The power struggle that led to the purging of Tony Morris - Yes.
To remove a member of the governing body shows that for JW's, no
position of power and authority
can override wrongdoing. As Paul said, "Purge the evil person from
your midst."
So sowing discord among brethren is approved.
Not at all. You are misinterpreting the meaning here. In order to keep
the congregation clean, Paul said to "Purge the evil person from your
midst." That would be the worst case scenario. If he truly repented
etc, that would be taken into consideration. It's normally not a
simple as black and white. There are many factors to consider. (mental
problems, medications, etc)

Sincerely James,
The beginning of the
end starts in Israel?
1/10/2024
Go to jw.org
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
Post by John Ritson
Gosh, all six are characteristics of the JW Governing Body.
Golly Gee, no they are not.
John Ritson
2024-01-11 11:11:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jack Sovalot
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 14:47:33 +0000, John Ritson
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:15:12 +0000, John Ritson
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 11:58:47 +0000, John Ritson
Post by John Ritson
Post by James
On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 07:59:21 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:20:43 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
(snip)
I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy.
Guess what. In all honesty, I get tired of people contradicting the
Holy Bible!
"In all honesty," what a laugh! You are a joke, Fella!
Just look at this self-righteous whore display her wares!
A sinner contradicts the Word of God every day!
Sheesh, these people are totally blind!
"I am so tired of hearing lying sinners speak and dispense their whore
self-justifying "perfect" religious theology, Buddy boy."
Where are the true wholehearted believers?
Where?
All I see are sinners trying to justify themselves as they are!
Compromisers!
God does not compromise!!!
And God hates liars. Pr 6:16-19,
"16. These six things the Lord hates, yes, seven are an abomination
17. A proud look,
People who believe that they are going to paradise and everyone else
will burn - Yes.
Totally false. Many resurrected ones are not JW's, but they also can
get eternal life. JW's go by the Bible, and it teaches there is no
literal hellfire.
Not burn eternally, but be destroyed by fire.
The God of love (1 John 4:8) will not destroy the wicked by torture.
Compare being burned alive with just having your heart stop.
Post by John Ritson
And modern JWs are encouraged to feel proud because they will have the
job of explaining things to the prophets!
"Samuel, I know you're grateful to be resurrected, but we don't offer
animal sacrifices any more,
so please put that knife down and leave that bull alone" - Governing
Body Member.
Yes, I guess that could happen.
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a lying tongue,
The Mexican scandal - Yes.
I am not familiar with it. How do I know what you say is a "lying
tongue"?
How soon you forget. Governing Body member Fred Franz approved a system
whereby Mexican JWs were encouraged to bribe officials to obtain false
documentation to claim they had done military service,
And your proof?
A letter from the Brooklyn HQ to the Mexican Branch. June 2nd 1960,
insisting that it was all acceptable provided "the money paid does not
go to the military establishment but is appropriated by the individual".
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hands that shed innocent blood,
The obsession with blood, leading to a ban on transfusions, or some
transfusions - Yes.
No. The ban on blood is a BIBLE command, and real Christians obey all
-- New King James
Acts 15:20 "but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted
by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from
blood.
In other words: "abstain...from blood".
In other words "Abstain from drinking blood".
And the JW doctrine on blood has been all over the place. Permitting
transfusions, banning transfusions, allowing "blood components".
"abstain...from blood", means just that. Drinking, swimming in it,
taking a shower in it, shooting it in your veins, etc. Also, the
Egyptians had some way of doing a transfusion. The disciple James
would have been aware of this because of the Jews in exile there. Yet
James worded it like he did at Acts 15:20.
Think of this, If a doctor told you to abstain from caffeine, does
that mean you couldn't drink it, but could shoot it into your veins?
JW's are fulfilling Prov 4:18. What they did in the past may or may
not have been correct. But what counts is NOW. We are now just about
at the full "daylight" of Prov 4:18.
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18. a heart that devises wicked plans
The cover-up of child abuse - Yes.
Opposers of JW's like to make that claim. The JW's have extensive data
on child abuse.
Which they fight tooth and nail to keep secret from the authorities.
We are not like the RCC that moved around their pedophiles, and swept
it under a rug.
The JWs also move pedophiles around.
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Try this, name me one organization of any kind, containing millions,
who don't have lawbreakers in it.
"Not as bad as the Roman Catholics" - What a slogan!
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Also, JW's have to follow the Bible.
And if evidence proves a pedophile to be guilty, he would first be
removed from the congregation. And if the law said to turn him in,
that would also be done.
The whole point is keeping knowledge of the abuse from the law by
"leaving it up to Jehovah".
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses%27_handling_of_child_sex_ab
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It has some positive and negative things about JW's. The web page does
say,
"Some or all of this article's listed sources may not be reliable.
Please help this article by looking for better, more reliable sources,
or by checking whether the references meet the criteria for reliable
sources. Unreliable citations may be challenged or deleted. "
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, feet that are swift in
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running to evil,
The endless doctrinal changes called "new" light, often changing back to
a previous doctrine - Yes.
Wow, ENDLESS changes. That would mean tomorrow would be many different
doctrines.
Often doctrine simply reverts to an older, once rejected version.
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At any rate, the true religion continually upgrades until they have
-- Revised Standard
Proverbs 4:18 But the path of the righteous is like the light of
dawn, which shines brighter and brighter until full day.
Yes, JW's continually improve, whereas most of the churches stay
stagnated.
But what happens when the JW doctrine simply reverts to an earlier
version?
If it's correct, what would you expect? If a doctor gave a medicine
that produced some bad side effects, he my quit giving it, and try
something else. But if the 2nd medicine didn't help, he may go back to
the first one. Remember Pr 4:18. The true religion gets better and
better as time goes on.
And if the doctor simply oscillates between falsehoods? Sacrificing
goats/Sacrificing pigeons?
That's not getting better and better.
And why do they call it "new light" when they are merely returning to
old light?
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Will some of the population of Sodom and Gomorra be saved? The sensible
answer might be Don't know/Don't care.
For the past century, JW doctrine has oscillated between a definite yes
and an equally definite no.
All I know is what the Bible says. Jude 7,
What? You didn't look at jw.org?
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“So too Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities about them, after they in
the same manner as the foregoing ones had committed fornication
excessively and gone out after flesh for unnatural use, are placed
before us as a warning example by undergoing the judicial punishment
of everlasting fire.”
"everlasting fire", eternal destruction.
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19. a false witness who speaks lies,
The cover-up of child abuse - Yes.
See info on this above.
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and one who sows discord among
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brethren."
The power struggle that led to the purging of Tony Morris - Yes.
To remove a member of the governing body shows that for JW's, no
position of power and authority
can override wrongdoing. As Paul said, "Purge the evil person from
your midst."
So sowing discord among brethren is approved.
Not at all. You are misinterpreting the meaning here. In order to keep
the congregation clean, Paul said to "Purge the evil person from your
midst." That would be the worst case scenario. If he truly repented
etc, that would be taken into consideration. It's normally not a
simple as black and white. There are many factors to consider. (mental
problems, medications, etc)
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Gosh, all six are characteristics of the JW Governing Body.
Golly Gee, no they are not.
Look, the latest "new light" says that even if the "End" comes while
someone is not an active believer, they can still get to "Paradise
Earth" so why bother with this deeply flawed organisation?
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John Ritson
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