Discussion:
A reminder to my atheists.
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Michael McLean
2023-02-04 22:11:15 UTC
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No thing can be its own creator.

That is proof the Creator is alive and well and eternal, or nothing
would be here.

There's a little Occam's Razor for you, my atheist bros.

"The simplest of two competing theories is to be preferred," unless you
are an atheist with a stubborn, dogmatic personal agenda? Then that
little theory is out the window for a while, but later it's out the door
to be picked up again when the context is a little more, let us say,
palatable.

Oh, yeah.






Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.
Frank Lee
2023-02-05 20:00:30 UTC
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Post by Michael McLean
No thing can be its own creator.
How do you know?

Prove it.

"Is your belief more special?? Is so, why and how?? Can
you provide the verifiable evidence you demand??" ——MX
aaa
2023-02-05 21:16:50 UTC
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Post by Frank Lee
Post by Michael McLean
No thing can be its own creator.
How do you know?
Because it's illogical.
Post by Frank Lee
Prove it.
"Is your belief more special?? Is so, why and how?? Can
you provide the verifiable evidence you demand??" ——MX
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!
Michael McLean
2023-02-05 22:33:59 UTC
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Post by Frank Lee
Post by Michael McLean
No thing can be its own creator.
How do you know?
Prove it.
You can't prove anything to anybody as we all have belief to live by and
a free will choice to exercise.

All you are saying is, "Try to convince me," and my reply to that is,
"Convince yourself."
Post by Frank Lee
"Is your belief more special?? Is so, why and how?? Can
you provide the verifiable evidence you demand??"
Stop lying. Start there. All you do is damage your own life; you can't
stop me being what I am.

For the record, no thing can create itself. No thing can be its own
creator because it would have to "be" before it "is" in order to bring
itself into be.

Everything created itself is not an option, and merely a breeding ground
for fools.

The only option everybody has is an eternal Creator or no thing would be
here.

Convince yourself. Your free will is not mine, it is yours.

What is this today, Frank Lee lesson day?




Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.
Frank Lee
2023-02-06 00:01:26 UTC
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Post by Michael McLean
Post by Frank Lee
Post by Michael McLean
No thing can be its own creator.
How do you know?
Prove it.
You can't prove anything to anybody as we all have belief to live by and
a free will choice to exercise.
Not true, as I've explained to you before.
Post by Michael McLean
All you are saying is, "Try to convince me," and my reply to that is,
"Convince yourself."
No. I'm also asking how you came to "know" that. You
have unwittingly answered that question:

"I want it to be true, so I believe it. Objective facts
don't matter to me." ——MX
Post by Michael McLean
Post by Frank Lee
"Is your belief more special?? Is so, why and how?? Can
you provide the verifiable evidence you demand??" ——MX
Stop lying.
You said that, not me. So stop lying.
Post by Michael McLean
For the record, no thing can create itself. No thing can be its own
creator because it would have to "be" before it "is" in order to bring
itself into be.
"I want it to be true, so I believe it. Objective facts
don't matter to me." ——MX

You are declaring without substantiation that time travel
is impossible, even for the god you have created, among
other assumptions. Not to mention crediting others with
statements they never made, but you really, really want
them to.
Post by Michael McLean
Everything created itself is not an option, and merely a breeding ground
for fools.
The only option everybody has is an eternal Creator or no thing would be
here.
These are only your unthought-out and ignorant opinions.

"I want it to be true, so I believe it. Objective facts
don't matter to me." ——MX
Post by Michael McLean
Convince yourself. Your free will is not mine, it is yours.
What is this today, Frank Lee lesson day?
Yes. Take some lessons from Frank Lee today... fight
against ignorance!

<snip>
Michael McLean
2023-02-06 00:22:03 UTC
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Post by Frank Lee
Post by Michael McLean
Post by Frank Lee
Post by Michael McLean
No thing can be its own creator.
How do you know?
Prove it.
You can't prove anything to anybody as we all have belief to live by and
a free will choice to exercise.
Not true, as I've explained to you before.
Believe what you like, it is your choice.

The truth doesn't move out the way because Frank Lee doesn't agree, Buddy.
Post by Frank Lee
Post by Michael McLean
All you are saying is, "Try to convince me," and my reply to that is,
"Convince yourself."
No. I'm also asking how you came to "know" that. You
"I want it to be true, so I believe it. Objective facts
don't matter to me." ——MX
Stop lying.

You see, you don't have the truth so you have to lie about what a man says.

Does that not convince you, you are wrong? If not, it is your problem.

You are just ruining your own life by creating an abyss to go further
into. Nothing stands still.

You've been told, nobody gets away wiff it.
Post by Frank Lee
Post by Michael McLean
Post by Frank Lee
"Is your belief more special?? Is so, why and how?? Can
you provide the verifiable evidence you demand??" ——MX
Stop lying.
You said that, not me. So stop lying.
If you take something out of context, it is a lie.

You do it deliberately all the time. The truth is going to matter,
soon, very soon.

Stop lying.
Post by Frank Lee
Post by Michael McLean
For the record, no thing can create itself. No thing can be its own
creator because it would have to "be" before it "is" in order to bring
itself into be.
"I want it to be true, so I believe it. Objective facts
don't matter to me." ——MX
You are declaring without substantiation that time travel
is impossible, even for the god you have created, among
other assumptions. Not to mention crediting others with
statements they never made, but you really, really want
them to.
Post by Michael McLean
Everything created itself is not an option, and merely a breeding ground
for fools.
The only option everybody has is an eternal Creator or no thing would be
here.
These are only your unthought-out and ignorant opinions.
Run, liar, run. Empty pockets, that is all you have.
Post by Frank Lee
"I want it to be true, so I believe it. Objective facts
don't matter to me." ——MX
Stop lying.
Post by Frank Lee
Post by Michael McLean
Convince yourself. Your free will is not mine, it is yours.
What is this today, Frank Lee lesson day?
Yes. Take some lessons from Frank Lee today... fight
against ignorance!
<snip>
You're a mendacious prick because you worship the lie.




Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.
Frank Lee
2023-02-06 00:42:18 UTC
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Post by Michael McLean
Post by Frank Lee
Post by Michael McLean
Post by Frank Lee
Post by Michael McLean
No thing can be its own creator.
How do you know?
Prove it.
You can't prove anything to anybody as we all have belief to live by and
a free will choice to exercise.
Not true, as I've explained to you before.
Believe what you like, it is your choice.
The truth doesn't move out the way because Frank Lee doesn't agree, Buddy.
"I know how the universe works, but you don't." ——MX
Post by Michael McLean
Post by Frank Lee
Post by Michael McLean
All you are saying is, "Try to convince me," and my reply to that is,
"Convince yourself."
No. I'm also asking how you came to "know" that. You
"I want it to be true, so I believe it. Objective facts
don't matter to me." ——MX
Stop lying.
You see, you don't have the truth so you have to lie about what a man says.
Does that not convince you, you are wrong? If not, it is your problem.
Stop lying.

No atheist says all the things you claim they say. If
i'm lying, then you're lying more.

"It's ok for me to lie, but not you." ——MX

Now where do you disagree with the above quote?
Does it not convey your core MXtian point of view?
Post by Michael McLean
You are just ruining your own life by creating an abyss to go further
into. Nothing stands still.
You've been told, nobody gets away wiff it.
"You won't get away with it. My pet god is going to beat
you up." ——MX
Post by Michael McLean
Post by Frank Lee
Yes. Take some lessons from Frank Lee today... fight
against ignorance!
<snip>
<snip>
Michael McLean
2023-02-06 01:25:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michael McLean
Post by Frank Lee
Post by Michael McLean
Post by Frank Lee
Post by Michael McLean
No thing can be its own creator.
How do you know?
Prove it.
You can't prove anything to anybody as we all have belief to live by and
a free will choice to exercise.
Not true, as I've explained to you before.
Believe what you like, it is your choice.
The truth doesn't move out the way because Frank Lee doesn't agree, Buddy.
"I know how the universe works, but you don't." ——MX
Post by Michael McLean
Post by Frank Lee
Post by Michael McLean
All you are saying is, "Try to convince me," and my reply to that is,
"Convince yourself."
No. I'm also asking how you came to "know" that. You
"I want it to be true, so I believe it. Objective facts
don't matter to me." ——MX
Stop lying.
You see, you don't have the truth so you have to lie about what a man says.
Does that not convince you, you are wrong? If not, it is your problem.
Stop lying.
No atheist says all the things you claim they say. If
i'm lying, then you're lying more.
"It's ok for me to lie, but not you." ——MX
Now where do you disagree with the above quote?
Does it not convey your core MXtian point of view?
Well, you know everything Freud Lee, why ask me. :-).

Stop lying.

You think a lie is about words. You use a lie to say words because you
are deceived into thinking a lie has power.

But, a lie isn't about words, it is about much more than that.

For instance, in the case of man's ways; a lie is is about his ways.

You can't win with lies because God is about truth, and He is God, and
you are not.

Knock yourself out.



Mike



Mike
Post by Michael McLean
You are just ruining your own life by creating an abyss to go further
into. Nothing stands still.
You've been told, nobody gets away wiff it.
"You won't get away with it. My pet god is going to beat
you up." ——MX
Post by Michael McLean
Post by Frank Lee
Yes. Take some lessons from Frank Lee today... fight
against ignorance!
<snip>
<snip>
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.
Frank Lee
2023-02-07 05:21:54 UTC
Permalink
Michael McLean <***@outlook.com> wrote:

<snip word salad>

Don't you feel better for not polluting the usenetosphere
any further with your wasted photons?
Michael McLean
2023-02-06 02:00:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Frank Lee
Prove it.
By the way, I see, you've moved on from...

"You can't prove anything to anybody as we all have is belief to live by
and a free will choice to exercise."

Have you chosen not to believe in the exercise of your free will?




Mike

PS: Can you pass that on to Bob Duncan?
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.
Frank Lee
2023-02-07 05:25:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michael McLean
Post by Frank Lee
Prove it.
By the way, I see, you've moved on from...
"You can't prove anything to anybody as we all have is belief to live by
and a free will choice to exercise."
You are confused, MX.

You said that, not me.

So prove nothing can create itself.

Cat gotcher tongue?
Post by Michael McLean
Have you chosen not to believe in the exercise of your free will?
Have you changed the color of your pet god's fingernails?
Michael McLean
2023-02-07 07:52:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Frank Lee
Post by Michael McLean
Post by Frank Lee
Prove it.
By the way, I see, you've moved on from...
"You can't prove anything to anybody as we all have is belief to live by
and a free will choice to exercise."
You are confused, MX.
You said that, not me.
That I did.
Post by Frank Lee
So prove nothing can create itself.
Cat gotcher tongue?
Stupid thing to say.
Post by Frank Lee
Post by Michael McLean
Have you chosen not to believe in the exercise of your free will?
Have you changed the color of your pet god's fingernails?
Thank you for your belief in life and your free will choice to exercise it.

But you can prove anything unless I decide to believe in what you say in
the exercise of my free will.

That is unlikely, but the door is open, which speaks a lot about you.




Michael
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.
Andrew
2023-02-07 09:18:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Frank Lee
So prove nothing can create itself.
This is what our atheist friends "believe",
contrary to *the laws of science* which
says otherwise.
Michael McLean
2023-02-07 10:15:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by Frank Lee
So prove nothing can create itself.
This is what our atheist friends "believe", contrary to *the laws of
science* which says otherwise.
Atheist insanity is worsening and in their minds they think they are
being clever.

Nothing stands still.




Michael
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.
Attila
2023-02-06 12:39:54 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 5 Feb 2023 09:11:15 +1100, Michael McLean
Post by Michael McLean
No thing can be its own creator.
Why do you assume every creation must have an intelligent
source?
Post by Michael McLean
That is proof the Creator is alive and well and eternal, or nothing
would be here.
There's a little Occam's Razor for you, my atheist bros.
"The simplest of two competing theories is to be preferred," unless you
are an atheist with a stubborn, dogmatic personal agenda? Then that
little theory is out the window for a while, but later it's out the door
to be picked up again when the context is a little more, let us say,
palatable.
Oh, yeah.
Mike
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats.

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Stop the Green Raw Deal!

I dare call it treason.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

I don't know how Baghdad Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights? Can New York be far behind?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
Michael McLean
2023-02-07 09:02:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by Attila
On Sun, 5 Feb 2023 09:11:15 +1100, Michael McLean
Post by Michael McLean
No thing can be its own creator.
Why do you assume every creation must have an intelligent
source?
Non sequitur, but I'll take it onboard.

Now I understand you. :-).





Mike
Post by Attila
Post by Michael McLean
That is proof the Creator is alive and well and eternal, or nothing
would be here.
There's a little Occam's Razor for you, my atheist bros.
"The simplest of two competing theories is to be preferred," unless you
are an atheist with a stubborn, dogmatic personal agenda? Then that
little theory is out the window for a while, but later it's out the door
to be picked up again when the context is a little more, let us say,
palatable.
Oh, yeah.
Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.
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