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Is Christ a historical person
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unknown
2023-01-16 16:26:00 UTC
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If I cared to, I could present arguments that he'd never existed at all
which you christer morons wouldn't be able adequately to counter. (
Like any question of a historical nature; llet's ask the scholars of 1st
century palistine.

A good prson to ask is bart ehrman; an agnostic/atheist historian of 1st
century palistine and NT events/figures. He can be found all over the web
on this and other historical questions of the time/place. He does not do
theology to answer the question, he approaches it from the prspective of a
historian. Anyone interested can ask and I will provide web sources on the
topic, including a recorded video lecture.

He wrote an entire book in answer to the question, one good survey of it:

'Did Jesus Exist?' (Ehrman book) - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Did_Jesus_Exist%3F_(Ehrman_book)#Arguments_for_existence

The short answer, yes Christ was a historical person. He is critical of
the internet "experts" as opposed to the academic scholars of the
time/place. He says those scholars, of whom most he knows personaly; all
would say Christ was a historical prson with few if any exceptions.

He says the historical written documentation for Christ is better then many
of the greek and roman figures known and taught about in higher education.

One example I have examined is alexander the great. There were 4 primary
authors at the time of his life who wrote accounts of him. There are no
surviving examples of their writing but they are known from 4 others who
refered to them some 2 centuries later. Those are also lost and all of the
previous writers are known only from surviving examples of othrs written
after and during the 1st century.
teslaStinker
2023-01-16 18:16:17 UTC
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servant Wrote in message:r
Summary: Keywords: One poster seems to think not in a recent post:>If I cared to, I could present arguments that he'd never existed at all >which you christer morons wouldn't be able adequately to counter. (Like any question of a historical nature; llet's ask the scholars of 1st century palistine. A good prson to ask is bart ehrman; an agnostic/atheist historian of 1st century palistine and NT events/figures. He can be found all over the web on this and other historical questions of the time/place. He does not do theology to answer the question, he approaches it from the prspective of a historian. Anyone interested can ask and I will provide web sources on the topic, including a recorded video lecture.He wrote an entire book in answer to the question, one good survey of it:'Did Jesus Exist?' (Ehrman book) - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Did_Jesus_Exist%3F_(Ehrman_book)#Arguments_for_existenceThe short answer, yes Christ was a historical person. He is critical of the internet "experts" as opposed to the academic scholars of the time/place. He says those scholars, of whom most he knows personaly; all would say Christ was a historical prson with few if any exceptions.He says the historical written documentation for Christ is better then many of the greek and roman figures known and taught about in higher education. One example I have examined is alexander the great. There were 4 primary authors at the time of his life who wrote accounts of him. There are no surviving examples of their writing but they are known from 4 others who refered to them some 2 centuries later. Those are also lost and all of the previous writers are known only from surviving examples of othrs written after and during the 1st century.
Servant. Use the right books.He is much more than a historical
person. Much more.
The cross in the sky says alot. If I were you, I would hear it.
And He has shown me this.

However, it has been there for a very long long time. Spoken of
in the true book of Genesis. And Matthew.

https://truecarpentry.org/tccwww/cathwww/apostolic/mysteries'tcc/n
orthernCross/northernCross.htm

Is difficult to see it. In the United States and Canada, it's
mostly daytime the whole time it's above.... When it's night,
it's on the other side. However, When He removes the Sun and
throws the stars down at us,, drifting into the asteroid field,,
everyone will be able to see it then.... And, they will know it's
of Him.
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Daniel
teslaStinker
2023-01-16 18:19:38 UTC
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servant Wrote in message:r
Summary: Keywords: One poster seems to think not in a recent post:>If I cared to, I could present arguments that he'd never existed at all >which you christer morons wouldn't be able adequately to counter. (Like any question of a historical nature; llet's ask the scholars of 1st century palistine. A good prson to ask is bart ehrman; an agnostic/atheist historian of 1st century palistine and NT events/figures. He can be found all over the web on this and other historical questions of the time/place. He does not do theology to answer the question, he approaches it from the prspective of a historian. Anyone interested can ask and I will provide web sources on the topic, including a recorded video lecture.He wrote an entire book in answer to the question, one good survey of it:'Did Jesus Exist?' (Ehrman book) - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Did_Jesus_Exist%3F_(Ehrman_book)#Arguments_for_existenceThe short answer, yes Christ was a historical person. He is critical of the internet "experts" as opposed to the academic scholars of the time/place. He says those scholars, of whom most he knows personaly; all would say Christ was a historical prson with few if any exceptions.He says the historical written documentation for Christ is better then many of the greek and roman figures known and taught about in higher education. One example I have examined is alexander the great. There were 4 primary authors at the time of his life who wrote accounts of him. There are no surviving examples of their writing but they are known from 4 others who refered to them some 2 centuries later. Those are also lost and all of the previous writers are known only from surviving examples of othrs written after and during the 1st century.
As normal, the url is broken. You will have to add the rest of
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Daniel
Ted
2023-01-17 02:04:04 UTC
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If I cared to, I could present arguments
that he'd never existed at all
which you christer morons wouldn't be
able adequately to counter. (
Actually, I know he was a real person. My point was that you
christers are too ignorant to be able to argue the case.

<snipped what was hardly an argument, thus proving my point>
pyotr filipivich
2023-01-17 22:37:54 UTC
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Post by Ted
If I cared to, I could present arguments
that he'd never existed at all
which you christer morons wouldn't be
able adequately to counter. (
Actually, I know he was a real person. My point was that you
christers are too ignorant to be able to argue the case.
<snipped what was hardly an argument, thus proving my point>
Looks more like you rejected his point a-priori, thus proving his
point.

Such was to be expected.
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pyotr
After the war two Army Chaplains were mustering out. The one said to
the other "Chaplain, it has been a real pleasure serving God with you.
You in your way, and I in His."

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