The is only two types of people in the world.

[Michael McLean]

Those who love God with all their heart, soul, and mind, and those who
don't.

And that is all that matters.





Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

[David Dalton]

Post by Michael McLean
Those who love God with all their heart, soul, and mind, and those who
don't.
And that is all that matters.
Mike

God can be a trickster at times, so it pays to be wary of God,
since He may be trying to teach you something through the
school of hard knocks.

[Michael McLean]

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean
Those who love God with all their heart, soul, and mind, and those who
don't.
And that is all that matters.

God can be a trickster at times, so it pays to be wary of God,
since He may be trying to teach you something through the
school of hard knocks.

It is true that suffering yields great reward with the Lord, but how
about you show a little respect for your Creator?





Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

[David Dalton]

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean
Those who love God with all their heart, soul, and mind, and those who
don't.
And that is all that matters.

God can be a trickster at times, so it pays to be wary of God,
since He may be trying to teach you something through the
school of hard knocks.

It is true that suffering yields great reward with the Lord, but how
about you show a little respect for your Creator?
Mike

I have respect, but I am not about to love everything He does,
and I know He expects me to think for myself.

Also while I think there is a match to the Nicene Creed
definition of God as the all-governing Creator, if you
add “the personification of perfect love” to that definition
there is no match. There is no someone who is both
all-governing and perfectly loving.

Your ultra long signature makes your posts appear to be
long, which I think makes it less likely that a prospective
reader would open them and read them.

[Michael McLean]

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean
Those who love God with all their heart, soul, and mind, and those who
don't.
And that is all that matters.

God can be a trickster at times, so it pays to be wary of God,
since He may be trying to teach you something through the
school of hard knocks.

It is true that suffering yields great reward with the Lord, but how
about you show a little respect for your Creator?
Mike

I have respect,

No, you don't.

Post by David Dalton
but I am not about to love everything He does,

Then you must be above Him.

Post by David Dalton
and I know He expects me to think for myself.

You can't, in righteousness.

Post by David Dalton
Also while I think there is a match to the Nicene Creed
definition of God as the all-governing Creator, if you
add “the personification of perfect love” to that definition
there is no match. There is no someone who is both
all-governing and perfectly loving.
Your ultra long signature makes your posts appear to be
long, which I think makes it less likely that a prospective
reader would open them and read them.

That is a shame, you little trickster.




Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

[David Dalton]

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton
I have respect,

No, you don't.

I certainly don’t have respect for you, or anyone else who
claims to speak for God, whether from thousands of years
ago or today. My essential messages are from me, though
I don’t think I will be allowed to proceed out of my
low/wilderness/forsaken years unless God agrees with them.

[Michael McLean]

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton
I have respect,

No, you don't.

I certainly don’t have respect for you, or anyone else who
claims to speak for God, whether from thousands of years
ago or today.

Well, people have you then.

Thanks for being you.

Post by David Dalton
My essential messages are from me, though
I don’t think I will be allowed to proceed out of my
low/wilderness/forsaken years unless God agrees with them.

You don't do anything unless God agrees.

Let's just dispense with the bullshit, shall we, and go back to what
matters. Sorry, your advice was not required...

"There is only two types of people in the world."

Those who love God with all their heart, soul, and mind, and those who
don't.

And that is all that matters.




Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

[David Dalton]

Post by Michael McLean
You don't do anything unless God agrees.

Including all evil?

[Michael McLean]

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean
You don't do anything unless God agrees.

Including all evil?

God is God, not you.

"Let's just dispense with the bullshit, shall we, and go back to what
matters. Sorry, your advice was not required...

"There is only two types of people in the world."

Those who love God with all their heart, soul, and mind, and those who
don't.

And that is all that matters."





Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven."

[David Dalton]

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean
You don't do anything unless God agrees.

Including all evil?

God is God, not you.

And you said I don’t do anything unless God agrees,
so obviously you believe that if I do something evil
that God agrees with that, which I don’t believe.

And I am the latest avatar type, in a long line (4744
human and cetacean avatar types in the last 10,000
years) of avatar types including Jesus. But I do
not claim to be an incarnation of God, and do not
believe that Jesus was either.

I think that to love God includes using the free will
that He gave us, and includes at times going against
figures who claim(ed) to speak for God, and should
include advances in the last 2000 years, including
my essential message that incompatible sex is an
abomination but compatible sex (including that
between gay men) is not (thus it is an abomination
for a lesbian to have sex with a man and for a
gay man to have sex with a woman).

[Michael McLean]

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean
You don't do anything unless God agrees.

Including all evil?

God is God, not you.

And you said I don’t do anything unless God agrees,
so obviously you believe that if I do something evil
that God agrees with that, which I don’t believe.

I used to think you were just nuts, but now I see you are a bit of a
manipulative, snaky, sneaky, twisted boy, Dave.

Post by David Dalton
And I am the latest avatar type, in a long line (4744
human and cetacean avatar types in the last 10,000
years) of avatar types including Jesus. But I do
not claim to be an incarnation of God, and do not
believe that Jesus was either.
I think that to love God includes using the free will
that He gave us, and includes at times going against
figures who claim(ed) to speak for God, and should
include advances in the last 2000 years, including
my essential message that incompatible sex is an
abomination but compatible sex (including that
between gay men) is not (thus it is an abomination
for a lesbian to have sex with a man and for a
gay man to have sex with a woman).

It appears to me you are having a great 'compatible' time having sex
with yourself, David.

"There is only two types of people in the world."

Those who love God with all their heart, soul, and mind, and those who
don't.

And that is all that matters."







Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven."

[NightBulb.net]

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean
You don't do anything unless God agrees.

Including all evil?

God is God, not you.

And you said I don’t do anything unless God agrees,
so obviously you believe that if I do something evil
that God agrees with that, which I don’t believe.

And then you go on to contradict yourself by defining sex between a man
and a woman as an abomination, and lesbian and queer sex as acceptable.
You are either a devious troll or a clown with zero self-awareness.

Post by Michael McLean
I used to think you were just nuts, but now I see you are a bit of a
manipulative, snaky, sneaky, twisted boy, Dave.

Twisted twinkie trickster!

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton
And I am the latest avatar type, in a long line (4744
human and cetacean avatar types in the last 10,000
years) of avatar types including Jesus. But I do
not claim to be an incarnation of God, and do not
believe that Jesus was either.

Well there is the root of your perverse problems! Did you graduate
Magnum Cum-Cum Latte?

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton
I think that to love God includes using the free will
that He gave us, and includes at times going against

Did you mean 'free will' or 'free willy'? It seems all you want to do is
use your 'free willy' and unleash it on every available orifice with
God's blessing. It must be that Magnum Cum-Cum Latte power.

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton
figures who claim(ed) to speak for God, and should
include advances in the last 2000 years, including
my essential message that incompatible sex is an
abomination but compatible sex (including that
between gay men) is not (thus it is an abomination
for a lesbian to have sex with a man and for a
gay man to have sex with a woman).

What about a lesbian and a non-lesbian woman? What about a gay man and a
non-gay man? What about bisexuals? What about a lesbian woman and a
bisexual woman? What about pedophiles? What about a bisexual man and a
non-bisexual man? What about a pig and a pitbull?

I could go on and on ad nauseum with these ridiculous distinctions
without a difference. The apparent point of your twinkie twaddle is just
to get others to engage in the subject, to 'feel out' the situation for
prospects.

Post by Michael McLean
It appears to me you are having a great 'compatible' time having sex
with yourself, David.

And he is trying to liberate free willies world-wide!

Post by Michael McLean
"There is only two types of people in the world."

This spoils Dave's gender bender binary equation. Greta Thunberg sound
bite here ...

Post by Michael McLean
Those who love God with all their heart, soul, and mind, and those who
don't.
And that is all that matters."

They want to justify their sins by inventing new ones and re-defining
old ones, instead of just admitting they are sinners. And while they do
it they want to manipulate others into discussing the unseemly for no
good reason. This gets their sap rising.

God already knows they have put their donkey-doodle in places it doesn't
belong. He's not fretting about it. They are. That's why they so often
make it the topic of discussion. They are fretting about their decisions
because they know they are in rebellion, and they know they hate God.
Because they have been taught the false hellfire myth and the false
annihilation doctrine they are grasping at self-justification to explain
it away.

They want you to join them in hating God, even if it means hating him
under color of 'doctrine'. They don't just fear burning in hell. They
want everyone else to burn.

[David Dalton]

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean
You don't do anything unless God agrees.

Including all evil?

God is God, not you.

And you said I don’t do anything unless God agrees,
so obviously you believe that if I do something evil
that God agrees with that, which I don’t believe.

And then you go on to contradict yourself by defining sex between a man
and a woman as an abomination, and lesbian and queer sex as acceptable.
You are either a devious troll or a clown with zero self-awareness.

Post by Michael McLean
I used to think you were just nuts, but now I see you are a bit of a
manipulative, snaky, sneaky, twisted boy, Dave.

Twisted twinkie trickster!

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton
And I am the latest avatar type, in a long line (4744
human and cetacean avatar types in the last 10,000
years) of avatar types including Jesus. But I do
not claim to be an incarnation of God, and do not
believe that Jesus was either.

Well there is the root of your perverse problems! Did you graduate
Magnum Cum-Cum Latte?

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton
I think that to love God includes using the free will
that He gave us, and includes at times going against

Did you mean 'free will' or 'free willy'? It seems all you want to do is
use your 'free willy' and unleash it on every available orifice with
God's blessing. It must be that Magnum Cum-Cum Latte power.

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton
figures who claim(ed) to speak for God, and should
include advances in the last 2000 years, including
my essential message that incompatible sex is an
abomination but compatible sex (including that
between gay men) is not (thus it is an abomination
for a lesbian to have sex with a man and for a
gay man to have sex with a woman).

What about a lesbian and a non-lesbian woman? What about a gay man and a
non-gay man? What about bisexuals? What about a lesbian woman and a
bisexual woman? What about pedophiles? What about a bisexual man and a
non-bisexual man? What about a pig and a pitbull?

For a list of who is compatible with whom, see my Eight Sexual Harmonics
theory at https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/8H.html. Obviously it is
an abomination for a straight man to have sex with another
straight man, but two gay men are compatible and hence it
is not an abomination for them to have sex. Their orientation
has been divinely granted to them. Any old biblical pronouncements
against gay sex are military pronouncements designed to
increase population for military purposes and to increase
numbers in a religious group, and are certainly not needed
with a global population of 8 billion, plus I don’t believe they
were from God even back then.

[David Dalton]

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean
You don't do anything unless God agrees.

Including all evil?

God is God, not you.

And you said I don’t do anything unless God agrees,
so obviously you believe that if I do something evil
that God agrees with that, which I don’t believe.

I used to think you were just nuts, but now I see you are a bit of a
manipulative, snaky, sneaky, twisted boy, Dave.

You are avoiding my point/question. Your belief system is a house of cards.

[Michael McLean]

Off you go, David.




Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven."

[David Dalton]

Post by Michael McLean
Off you go, David.

You still didn’t address my point. Obviously God does not
agree when you do evil as defined by Him, and may
punish you, while allowing you a way to work off the
punishment.

[NightBulb.net]

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean
Off you go, David.

You still didn’t address my point. Obviously God does not
agree when you do evil as defined by Him, and may
punish you, while allowing you a way to work off the
punishment.

Since you have already demonstrated that you don't worship God, and have
invented your own sexually promiscuous religion and god, why are you
coming here to trash on someone else's God? Doesn't your phallus deity
get you satisfied?

[NightBulb.net]

Post by David Dalton
You are avoiding my point/question. Your belief system is a house of cards.

As Dinkey Doodle Dalton pulls out his Tarot ...

[NightBulb.net]

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean
You don't do anything unless God agrees.

Including all evil?

God is God, not you.

And you said I don’t do anything unless God agrees,
so obviously you believe that if I do something evil
that God agrees with that, which I don’t believe.
And I am the latest avatar type, in a long line (4744
human and cetacean avatar types in the last 10,000
years) of avatar types including Jesus. But I do
not claim to be an incarnation of God, and do not
believe that Jesus was either.
I think that to love God includes using the free will
that He gave us, and includes at times going against
figures who claim(ed) to speak for God, and should
include advances in the last 2000 years, including
my essential message that incompatible sex is an
abomination but compatible sex (including that
between gay men) is not (thus it is an abomination
for a lesbian to have sex with a man and for a
gay man to have sex with a woman).

What are your pronouns, twinkle toes?

[David Dalton]

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean
You don't do anything unless God agrees.

Including all evil?

God is God, not you.

And you said I don’t do anything unless God agrees,
so obviously you believe that if I do something evil
that God agrees with that, which I don’t believe.
And I am the latest avatar type, in a long line (4744
human and cetacean avatar types in the last 10,000
years) of avatar types including Jesus. But I do
not claim to be an incarnation of God, and do not
believe that Jesus was either.
I think that to love God includes using the free will
that He gave us, and includes at times going against
figures who claim(ed) to speak for God, and should
include advances in the last 2000 years, including
my essential message that incompatible sex is an
abomination but compatible sex (including that
between gay men) is not (thus it is an abomination
for a lesbian to have sex with a man and for a
gay man to have sex with a woman).

What are your pronouns, twinkle toes?

He/him. I am a cis straight-type-2 male, so compatible only
with bisexual women (women attracted to both genders),
so it is an abomination for me to have sex with anyone
else, including a straight-type-1 woman and including
a straight-type-2 woman. For more details on what I call an
abomination see https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/messages.html
and for more details on my Eight Sexual Harmonics theory, see
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/8H.html . That is the primary
lore associated with my primary siddhi of matchmaking,
which I held in 2019 and 2021 but currently do not. The
similar primary siddhi of Jesus was probably healing.

[NightBulb.net]

Post by David Dalton

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean
You don't do anything unless God agrees.

Including all evil?

God is God, not you.

And you said I don’t do anything unless God agrees,
so obviously you believe that if I do something evil
that God agrees with that, which I don’t believe.
And I am the latest avatar type, in a long line (4744
human and cetacean avatar types in the last 10,000
years) of avatar types including Jesus. But I do
not claim to be an incarnation of God, and do not
believe that Jesus was either.
I think that to love God includes using the free will
that He gave us, and includes at times going against
figures who claim(ed) to speak for God, and should
include advances in the last 2000 years, including
my essential message that incompatible sex is an
abomination but compatible sex (including that
between gay men) is not (thus it is an abomination
for a lesbian to have sex with a man and for a
gay man to have sex with a woman).

What are your pronouns, twinkle toes?

He/him. I am a cis straight-type-2 male, so compatible only
with bisexual women (women attracted to both genders),
so it is an abomination for me to have sex with anyone
else, including a straight-type-1 woman and including
a straight-type-2 woman. For more details on what I call an
abomination see https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/messages.html
and for more details on my Eight Sexual Harmonics theory, see
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/8H.html . That is the primary
lore associated with my primary siddhi of matchmaking,
which I held in 2019 and 2021 but currently do not. The
similar primary siddhi of Jesus was probably healing.

"Eight sexual harmonics?" Is that when you whistle across someone's
sphincter? Or do you have eight sphincters?

The newsgroups appear to be blessed by a well-organized freak show. Here
are the acts today:

The Sinless Holy Hero of Horizontal Sin,

The Holy Holistic Hungry Heart Doctor with Eternal Medical License,

The Witchtower King Dong Haul armless cross Crusader,

The Holy Hand Grenade Crusader of Antioch's outhouse district,

CIS-Lesbichick-Only Brahma Boychik Harmonic Ding Donger.

We have ourselves a carnival!

I will provide the neon lighting. The rest of you, just be yourselves.

[NightBulb.net]

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean
You don't do anything unless God agrees.

Including all evil?

This type of inquisitive response is called, 'whataboutism' or
'whataboutery' and it is a form of ad hominem attack.

It is a disingenuous question that is designed as a veiled accusation.

Such a tactic usually entails an implicit re-wording or re-defining of
the actual meaning of the former statement it pretends to address.

In this case, Michael said, " ... unless God agrees." The whataboutist
response attempts to accuse Michael of saying, "God agrees with all
evil." It's a clever trick. But that's all it is--a trick--coming from a
trickster.

But that is not what Michael said. Even attempting to answer the
whataboutist question gives the appearance of agreeing to the implicit
premise. The Pharisees tried this with Jesus many times. Jesus never
fell for it. I am glad to see that Michael did not fall for it, either.

For instance the Scribes and Pharisees asked Jesus if it was lawful to
pay Caesar's tax. This was a whatabouter trap.

Whataboutism achieves nothing but exposing the intent of the whatabouter
to twist the words of his target and trick the audience into accepting
words that were not said, and attributing those words to the target. It
does not contribute to truthful discussion. It turns the discussion into
a lie, to attack the personality, morality, or sanity of the target.

This is part and parcel of Pharisee tactics. Whatabouters do not
properly represent the words of their opponent. They twist his words,
sometimes before he has even spoken them.

[Dr. Who]

Mike not only speaks for God, he has let it be known to men (atheists, at
least) that he will judge us all from His great white porcelean throne in
the
Beyond.

You owe me a keyboard, I spit my coffee out on that one. LOL

I figured Frank might be one of your sock puppet accounts. Maybe you
guys are just Catholic bum chums?

So is that the reason you used sock puppets to post to me? In another thread?

I mean, since you both enjoy the vision of Michael on the toilet,
there's got to be some bum chum in both of you.

I never ever said anything about Mike being on a toilet, ever.

So did you prospective bum chums meet at Loyala education center?

Which one, I have previously done work at Loyola University.

You appear to have similar ideations as MM which you made manifest here.

[Michael McLean]

Post by Dr. Who

Mike not only speaks for God, he has let it be known to men (atheists, at
least) that he will judge us all from His great white porcelean throne in
the
Beyond.

You owe me a keyboard, I spit my coffee out on that one. LOL

I figured Frank might be one of your sock puppet accounts. Maybe you
guys are just Catholic bum chums?

So is that the reason you used sock puppets to post to me? In another thread?

I mean, since you both enjoy the vision of Michael on the toilet,
there's got to be some bum chum in both of you.

I never ever said anything about Mike being on a toilet, ever.

So did you prospective bum chums meet at Loyala education center?

Which one, I have previously done work at Loyola University.
You appear to have similar ideations as MM which you made manifest here.

Your reply is a real bummer, Robert. Is there a reason for that?




Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better than what makes it heaven."

[Dr. Who]

Post by Dr. Who

Mike not only speaks for God, he has let it be known to men (atheists, at
least) that he will judge us all from His great white porcelean throne in
the
Beyond.

You owe me a keyboard, I spit my coffee out on that one. LOL

I figured Frank might be one of your sock puppet accounts. Maybe you
guys are just Catholic bum chums?

So is that the reason you used sock puppets to post to me? In another thread?

I mean, since you both enjoy the vision of Michael on the toilet,
there's got to be some bum chum in both of you.

I never ever said anything about Mike being on a toilet, ever.

So did you prospective bum chums meet at Loyala education center?

Which one, I have previously done work at Loyola University.
You appear to have similar ideations as MM which you made manifest here.

Your reply is a real bummer, Robert. Is there a reason for that?
Mike

You and he speak a similar language. Strange that it would bum you out.

[Michael McLean]

Post by Dr. Who

Post by Dr. Who

Mike not only speaks for God, he has let it be known to men (atheists, at
least) that he will judge us all from His great white porcelean throne in
the
Beyond.

You owe me a keyboard, I spit my coffee out on that one. LOL

I figured Frank might be one of your sock puppet accounts. Maybe you
guys are just Catholic bum chums?

So is that the reason you used sock puppets to post to me? In another thread?

I mean, since you both enjoy the vision of Michael on the toilet,
there's got to be some bum chum in both of you.

I never ever said anything about Mike being on a toilet, ever.

So did you prospective bum chums meet at Loyala education center?

Which one, I have previously done work at Loyola University.
You appear to have similar ideations as MM which you made manifest here.

Your reply is a real bummer, Robert. Is there a reason for that?
Mike

You and he speak a similar language. Strange that it would bum you out.

You have a very anal retentive perspective, Robert.





Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better than what makes it heaven."

[NightBulb.net]

Post by Dr. Who

So did you prospective bum chums meet at Loyala education center?

Which one, I have previously done work at Loyola University.
You appear to have similar ideations as MM which you made manifest here.

Your reply is a real bummer, Robert.  Is there a reason for that?

I discerned this a long time ago. I was waiting for the right time to
bring it out into the light. Several times when I wanted to flesh it out
my intuition restrained me. Then the right moment struck.

Any who are truly paying attention should know what this means.

[NightBulb.net]

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean
Those who love God with all their heart, soul, and mind, and those who
don't.
And that is all that matters.

God can be a trickster at times, so it pays to be wary of God,
since He may be trying to teach you something through the
school of hard knocks.

It is true that suffering yields great reward with the Lord, but how
about you show a little respect for your Creator?
Mike

I have respect,

No, you don't.

Post by David Dalton
but I am not about to love everything He does,

Then you must be above Him.

Post by David Dalton
and I know He expects me to think for myself.

You can't, in righteousness.

Post by David Dalton
Also while I think there is a match to the Nicene Creed
definition of God as the all-governing Creator, if you
add “the personification of perfect love” to that definition
there is no match. There is no someone who is both
all-governing and perfectly loving.
Your ultra long signature makes your posts appear to be
long, which I think makes it less likely that a prospective
reader would open them and read them.

More's the pity. Perhaps you don't truly know that size matters,
especially when comparing signature sizes. Because I have seen this
complaint raised in newsgroups before I shall treat the subject at some
length and girth of reasoning. The conclusions and propositions herein
elucidated may be hard to swallow.

Perhaps you might want to go full zombie nerd and quote the RFC on
signatures as fundamental to the initial charge. We can get a red hat
team here to assess the damage. We can analyze how Michael is breaking
the written rules of Usenet. We can hold hearings on the matter.
Analysis of rule-breaking is pretty popular in this newsgroup and
beyond. You could form a committee to determine the guilt level of said
signature and assign appropriate punishment. I think a few in this group
would jump at the opportunity.

Bible Bureaucrats in these newsgroups throw up text walls of scripture
citations. I don't recall anyone taking issue with that practice.
Perhaps we could admonish or condemn them, too, on a case-by-case basis.
We could devise some litmus tests to classify which long posts are
guilty or innocent.

No amount of bureaucracy can suffice for this endeavor. We must ensure
that all netizens follow the standards and practices expected by a high,
holy few, for the good of the collective! The sanctity and dignity of a
sacred forum must be preserved!

Ignore the fact that the delete key is the fastest form of white-out.
Pretend as devil's advocate that a long text is a criminal act.

Ignore the fact that scripture study and textual criticism is a highly
detailed and microscopic endeavor requiring the patience to parse and
comprehend dozens or even hundreds of paragraphs at a go. We'll just
demand short signatures as a matter of custom, as if some harm should
ensue from too much available reading material for people whose
principal occupation is reading too much material for any mere mortal to
digest.

With these presuppositions and admissions of fact in place we shall
proceed with our investigation into this holy matter of the renegade BIG
SIGNATURE.

Post by Michael McLean
That is a shame, you little trickster.

Bada bing.

At least David admits he is out of sync. At least he admits he is wilful
and isn't throwing up a smokescreen. Perhaps hope lurks in his environs.
Many others are pretending to walk in perfect harmony with the Lord
because their interpretation of the bible says so. They would hardly
admit that they resist God's will. They're more interested in proving
others out of sync while pontificating from a holy pedestal. Or perhaps
Mr. Dalton's sentiment is disingenuous critique couched as admonishment;
in sum, a trick.

As for David's comments: I do not see the Father as a trickster at all.
I believe it is a mistake to see it this way. I see Him as letting us
trick ourselves, and holding his peace about it because men tend to want
what they want how they want it when they want it wrapped up with a bow
and served by a syrup-slathered bikini bink jumping out of a giant cake
to present herself as a participation trophy.

In fact the Father spelled everything out very clearly in the Old
Testament. It seems a mystery because of human pride when approaching
the text. God had the Prophets write it out like a poetical dictionary
with careful definitions of the terms and symbols. He made it so simple
that the proud could not get it. I think the word says that He resists
the proud. If I am humble and in despair the scripture makes perfect sense.

Yet men tricked themselves into thinking it all meant what they thought
it should mean. Then the Apostles came along and clarified the Old
Testament with the New Testament, and re-confirmed what the symbols all
mean. God promises 'manna from heaven' and men think, 'cake from oven.'
God promises 'eternal life' and Pharisees warn of 'eternal death' and
call that a gospel. Right away proud men re-defined everything into
religious nonsense. We have 2000 years of errors compounded upon errors,
and hardly anyone seems to think about that.

Men then transmogrified that into more of their interpretation of the
Old Testament, tricking themselves into having more than thirty thousand
denominations, cults, and sects, each claiming to be the true one. I
don't blame the Father for this. He set it up to preserve the meaning of
the scripture despite copyists tampering with the text via their own
trickster interpretations. We now possess reasonably decent scripture
translations because copyists tampered with the original texts. Having
many copies spread out over many countries shows who was doing the
tampering, and what their agendas were. They always try to cast doubt on
the divinity and Messianic status of Jesus Christ. We know who is
responsible for that agenda and why.

As for the long signature that David opined about, I think I get it. I
didn't when I first saw it until I read a bit. Or maybe what I get is
what my motivation would be. I have a desire to annoy narcissists and
wankers. This may or may not be a right desire, but I certainly cannot
say it is evil to annoy evil men who themselves are pricks in the eyes
and thorns in the side.

I am glad to be granted a place in that venerable text wall. I hope I
may be a great annoyance to any self-anointed guru for a long time. If
it were not for Michael's long signature I would be denied the honor of
being a persistent irritant to jackasses. If I could get jackasses to
read long signatures that would fluster and annoy them I would like to
strap them into chairs and tape their eyes open and make the signatures
grow infinitely. If I could trick them into reading a pointless tirade
as long as such a signature I would feel very smug over their
smouldering. I would want to see the team of red hot red hat
investigators devoting days and days to pouring over every word to
assess what corrective action or criticism must be taken.

Should the corrective justice be a walk of shame? Should it be
anathemas? Should there be proclamation of deviltry? Would accusations
of witchcraft be in order? Should ecclesiastical authority take the
case? Or should the case be taken up by the civil magistrate? Or is the
offense so severe and the requirement of retribution so immediate that a
vigilante mob should intervene?

If wearing a tacky red hat would annoy the Pharisees I would want to buy
hats for the whole town. I would want to send red sombreros to their
wives as baby shower gifts. I would want to send red sombreros to their
sons and daughters as graduation gifts. Every city council meeting and
church meeting would present a sea of bobbing red sombreros in a Sufi
Circle of spastic synchronicity. I might even show up to their funerals
wearing a red sombrero. Finally I would want a red sombrero engraved on
my tomb stone with the epitaph: "His red hats rankled and enraged the
religious."

Even this post may be counted as an exercise in that aim. In honorarium
of the venerable 'BIG SIG' I have added the foundation of my own
'[BIG]NATURE' with the worst of intentions.

I find Michael McLean 'guilty' of posting a [BIG]NATURE SIGNATURE. I
declare sentence: Copy and paste it for every new message posted. If you
fail to do so, the court shall arrange to have it automatically appended
to your posts by ecclesiastical judicial order to the Usenet administrators.

If you read this entire, nearly but not totally pointless post, Mr.
Dalton, surely you can survive a big signature. Be brave. Read between
the lines.

[Dr. Who]

Yet men tricked themselves into thinking it all meant what they thought it
should mean. Then the Apostles came along and clarified the Old Testament
with the New Testament, and re-confirmed what the symbols all mean. God
promises 'manna from heaven' and men think, 'cake from oven.' God promises
'eternal life' and Pharisees warn of 'eternal death' and call that a gospel.
Right away proud men re-defined everything into religious nonsense. We have
2000 years of errors compounded upon errors, and hardly anyone seems to think
about that.

Deu 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest
hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the
foundations of the mountains.

Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that
forget God.

Isa 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without
measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that
rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

Thus saith the Word of God by the prophets over the words of the lost men

Jesus likewise spoke saying,...

Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without
a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his
brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say,
Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Mat 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and castit from thee: it
is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two
eyes to be cast into hell fire.

Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the
damnation of hell?
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never
forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

Do not believe the grievous errors of the person to whom I am replying.

[NightBulb.net]

Post by Dr. Who

Yet men tricked themselves into thinking it all meant what they thought it
should mean. Then the Apostles came along and clarified the Old Testament
with the New Testament, and re-confirmed what the symbols all mean. God
promises 'manna from heaven' and men think, 'cake from oven.' God promises
'eternal life' and Pharisees warn of 'eternal death' and call that a gospel.
Right away proud men re-defined everything into religious nonsense. We have
2000 years of errors compounded upon errors, and hardly anyone seems to think
about that.

Deu 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest
hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the
foundations of the mountains.

This is prophetic symbolism and has nothing to do with a literal furnace
where bodies are shoveled.

The 'earth' that will be consumed is Israel. Israel is repeatedly
defined as the 'earth' throughout the Old Testament and New Testament.
Fleshly Israel is defined as the 'earth.' Spiritual Israel under the New
Covenant is defined as 'heaven' or the 'New Jerusalem' that comes down
from heaven.

The earth's 'increase' is the later generations of the children of
Israel, who will be consumed by God's wrath in a future age, which is
happening now and has been happening for centuries.

The 'mountains' herein refers to the nations and their rulers. "The Lord
owns the cattle on a thousand hills", (mountains) is poetic symbol that
means the Lord owns the rulers and their cities or nations.

The fire is God's wrath, his anger, which is like a hot fire. Any youth
can understand the metaphor: "Hot-headed" or "hot under the collar" or
"white hot rage." It's the same metaphor in ancient Hebrew. Got is
describing his anger, his wrath, at his children rejecting His counsel.
Any decent father is moved to wrath when one of his children openly
defies his authority. God is putting it in human terms we can
understand. You are interpreting it through a literalist pagan lens.

His anger will set the nations on fire. Again this is not literal fire.

"I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh
after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he
shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Whose fan is in
his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat
into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."

The fire here is not literal. Neither is the water to be taken
literally. Baptism by water symbolizes the law of Moses, which convicts
of sin and brings death. Going down into the water is going down into
the grave, receiving your wages for sin, which is death:

"The wages of sin is death."

The name 'Moses' means 'waters.' To be baptized in water is to accept
the Law. Then Jesus comes to do the baptism by the Holy Ghost. Baptism
by water is repentence, the turning of the mind to the conviction of
sin. Baptism by Jesus is resurrection, to be raised to life:

"The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ out Lord."

You greatly err, Pharisee, not understanding the scripture at all. All
of these meanings of these symbols are defined many times throughout the
scripture, yet you insist on your literal Catholic, Lutheran, and
Calvinist interpretations to prop up your tradition of a hellfire myth.

Post by Dr. Who
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that
forget God.

Yes, and this prophecy has already been fulfilled. All the nations now
are in hell, groping in the darkness brought about by their sins. You
are taking something written about 3000 years ago, and pretending it
hasn't already happened. It began in 66-70 a.d. We are in that age of
fire, where the wrath of God is burning the nations as chaff. It is a
spiritual fire, not a literal flaming BBQ pit where bodies are shoveled.

Post by Dr. Who
Isa 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without
measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that
rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

Look around, genius. The whole world has descended deeply into this pit.
This prophecy is already fulfilled and is still happening.

Post by Dr. Who
Thus saith the Word of God by the prophets over the words of the lost men

"Who are you that judgeth another man's servant?"

"Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his
brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth
the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but
a judge. There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who
art thou that judgest another?"

Post by Dr. Who
Jesus likewise spoke saying,...
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without
a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his
brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say,
Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

And Dr. Woo has no idea what Jesus means by 'hell fire.' Dr. Woo
mistakenly means a white-hot firepit where tens of billions of bodies
will be shoveled, with a wrathful God eternally gleeful to see them
write there in agony. This is pagan nonsense.

Post by Dr. Who
Mat 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and castit from thee: it
is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two
eyes to be cast into hell fire.

You failed to pluck out the false leader (Christian religion) and now
you are already burning in the hell fire.

Post by Dr. Who
Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the
damnation of hell?

They sure didn't escape. They are here among us in this world age, and
they still haven't learned their lesson.

Post by Dr. Who
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never

You left out the important part. Jesus identified who is committing the
blasphemy against the Holy Ghost: The religious! The leaders! Those
claiming to be righteous! Those claiming the scepter of Judah, the
authority to judge others.

You also left out the fact that this blasphemy offense was an offense
under the Old Covenant, and Jesus said of it:

"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be
forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall
not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

The word for world means 'age' or 'era of time'. Neither in that age,
nor in the age after it, will the blasphemer find forgiveness. And to
this day, the harlot religious system still has no forgiveness. All
bound up in it are bound up in unbelief, and bound up in its blasphemy.
All who flee from it are free from the condemnation that it receives.

Yet Dr. Woo continues to preach their false hellfire doctrine, declaring
anyone who doesn't believe his nonsense will get shoveled into the furnace.

Post by Dr. Who
Do not believe the grievous errors of the person to whom I am replying.

Father, forgive the idiot for not having a clue that he already is in
the lake of fire, and he is already suffering the punishment that he
tries to threaten others with.

God punishes the wicked because he loves them, not because he wants to
punish them. The purpose of punishment is correction, not sadism.

"For the LORD will not cast off for ever: But though he cause grief, yet
will he have compassion according to the multitude of his mercies. For
he doth not afflict willingly nor grieve the children of men."
(Lamentations 3:31-3)

You have been cast off from God and left to your own fanatical religious
delusions to suffer in your own blindness. You are full of false
accusations, casting false accusations against me for telling the truth.
Dr. Woo, you are suffering God's wrath right now in this age. Welcome to
the lake of fire and brimstone, Bible Bureaucrat! You're in it!

To everyone involved with the Church harlot religion of Christianity:
get out now! Flee! The whore is burning! Stop burning with her!

"And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my
people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of
her plagues."

[Dr. Who]

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who

Yet men tricked themselves into thinking it all meant what they thought it
should mean. Then the Apostles came along and clarified the Old Testament
with the New Testament, and re-confirmed what the symbols all mean. God
promises 'manna from heaven' and men think, 'cake from oven.' God promises
'eternal life' and Pharisees warn of 'eternal death' and call that a gospel.
Right away proud men re-defined everything into religious nonsense. We have
2000 years of errors compounded upon errors, and hardly anyone seems to think
about that.

Deu 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the
lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the
foundations of the mountains.

This is prophetic symbolism and has nothing to do with a literal furnace
where bodies are shoveled.

You can pretend all you want, but the devi and his angels know far better
than you what the truth of the matter is.

Mat 8:28-29 (KJV)

28 And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes,
there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding
fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.

29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus,
thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?

Post by NightBulb.net
The 'earth' that will be consumed is Israel. Israel is repeatedly
defined as the 'earth' throughout the Old Testament and New Testament.
Fleshly Israel is defined as the 'earth.' Spiritual Israel under the New
Covenant is defined as 'heaven' or the 'New Jerusalem' that comes down
from heaven.

2Pe 3:10-13 (KJV)

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which
the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt
with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be
burned up.

11Seeing thenthat all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons
ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the
heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with
fervent heat?

13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new
earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Rev 21:1 (KJV)

1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first
earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Nothing you said jives with these truths. Your made up theology has not
foundation in scripture, old or new.

Post by NightBulb.net
The earth's 'increase' is the later generations of the children of
Israel, who will be consumed by God's wrath in a future age, which is
happening now and has been happening for centuries.

The earths increase is ALL peoples, and everything that is real upon this
planet.

Post by NightBulb.net
The 'mountains' herein refers to the nations and their rulers. "The Lord
owns the cattle on a thousand hills", (mountains) is poetic symbol that
means the Lord owns the rulers and their cities or nations.

And what has that to do with the lowest hell. Hell and the pit reside solely
in this planet.

Post by NightBulb.net
The fire is God's wrath, his anger, which is like a hot fire. Any youth
can understand the metaphor: "Hot-headed" or "hot under the collar" or
"white hot rage." It's the same metaphor in ancient Hebrew. Got is
describing his anger, his wrath, at his children rejecting His counsel.
Any decent father is moved to wrath when one of his children openly
defies his authority. God is putting it in human terms we can
understand. You are interpreting it through a literalist pagan lens.

To the contrary, you are interpreting it through the light that is within
darkness. Nightbulb, you are no different than the JW in this arena, and
playacting.

Post by NightBulb.net
His anger will set the nations on fire. Again this is not literal fire.

Show the supporting scripture.

Post by NightBulb.net
"I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh
after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he
shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Whose fan is in
his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat
into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."

Yes, he created the Lake of Fire and Brimstone. Which torments forever.

Post by NightBulb.net
The fire here is not literal. Neither is the water to be taken
literally. Baptism by water symbolizes the law of Moses, which convicts
of sin and brings death. Going down into the water is going down into

It is literal, like the fire and brimstone upon Sodom and Gomorra. BTW lots
wife was not the sat of the earth.

Post by NightBulb.net
"The wages of sin is death."
The name 'Moses' means 'waters.' To be baptized in water is to accept
the Law. Then Jesus comes to do the baptism by the Holy Ghost. Baptism
by water is repentence, the turning of the mind to the conviction of

What a twist. Done with error via lack of knowledge. To correct those errors
would take pages, pages that you have no interest in reading. For brevities
sake Once a person is Born of God then they have life eternal if they walk by
faith and do not wander off via fulfilling the lusts of their flesh.

Post by NightBulb.net
"The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ out Lord."

Yes, by the Blood of the Lamb.

Post by NightBulb.net
You greatly err, Pharisee, not understanding the scripture at all. All
of these meanings of these symbols are defined many times throughout the
scripture, yet you insist on your literal Catholic, Lutheran, and
Calvinist interpretations to prop up your tradition of a hellfire myth.

I am none of those, I am a child of God, baptized into the Body of Christ and
part of the body ekklesia. Jesus calls me friend.

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that
forget God.

Yes, and this prophecy has already been fulfilled. All the nations now
are in hell, groping in the darkness brought about by their sins. You
are taking something written about 3000 years ago, and pretending it
hasn't already happened. It began in 66-70 a.d. We are in that age of
fire, where the wrath of God is burning the nations as chaff. It is a
spiritual fire, not a literal flaming BBQ pit where bodies are shoveled.

Again you speak without knowledge 2022- 66 ad is 1956 years ago, not 3000. I
have shown you that before. It also does not fit the timeframes specified in
the Bible. You appear to have no understandings of timeframes and
dispensations.

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who
Isa 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without
measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that
rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

Look around, genius. The whole world has descended deeply into this pit.
This prophecy is already fulfilled and is still happening.

Where are the sides of the pit? Anyone that has visited the pit and come
back, of which there is quite a few alive today, Would tell you in no
uncertain terms that your knowledge is all like fools gold.

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who
Thus saith the Word of God by the prophets over the words of the lost men

"Who are you that judgeth another man's servant?"

I have beed given all power and authority over the enemy, the god of this
earth.
However, I said that because I then passed on to you the scriptures of God
that refuted your falsehoods.

Post by NightBulb.net
"Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his
brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth
the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but
a judge. There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who
art thou that judgest another?"

The spirit of God did not bear witness with my spirit that you be of the
Heavenly Father, nor Jesus the Messiah.

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who
Jesus likewise spoke saying,...
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without
a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his
brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say,
Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

And Dr. Woo has no idea what Jesus means by 'hell fire.' Dr. Woo
mistakenly means a white-hot firepit where tens of billions of bodies
will be shoveled, with a wrathful God eternally gleeful to see them
write there in agony. This is pagan nonsense.

Excuse my laughter, Jesus, who descended into the lowest parts of hell, is
well familiar with its surroundings. That you would seek to judge me, after
criticizing me is hypocritical at best. You teach a far different Gospel of
the Kingdom of God than did Paul

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who
Mat 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and castit from thee: it
is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two
eyes to be cast into hell fire.

You failed to pluck out the false leader (Christian religion) and now
you are already burning in the hell fire.

Try again.

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who
Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the
damnation of hell?

They sure didn't escape. They are here among us in this world age, and
they still haven't learned their lesson.

The damnation of hell is not a learning experience. It is just, and it is the
result of Justice served/

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never

You left out the important part. Jesus identified who is committing the
blasphemy against the Holy Ghost: The religious! The leaders! Those
claiming to be righteous! Those claiming the scepter of Judah, the
authority to judge others.

They were non-believers, yet that does not matter what they were judged for
is blaspheming the Holy Spirit and anyone religious or not who does so will
not be forgiven. Jesus described the action of the blaspheming as what
condemns, whoever does those things are guilty not just a certain
classification of titles.

Post by NightBulb.net
You also left out the fact that this blasphemy offense was an offense
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be
forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall
not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Yes, and that was not a law of Moses. You are clutching at straws there. Two
people died for lying to the Holy Spirit and the believers in those days,
After the resurrection of Christ.

Post by NightBulb.net
The word for world means 'age' or 'era of time'. Neither in that age,
nor in the age after it, will the blasphemer find forgiveness. And to
this day, the harlot religious system still has no forgiveness. All
bound up in it are bound up in unbelief, and bound up in its blasphemy.
All who flee from it are free from the condemnation that it receives.

Again your lack of knowledge and understanding is evident.
The spiritual world has no ending or beginning.

I am not of "this world"

Post by NightBulb.net
Yet Dr. Woo continues to preach their false hellfire doctrine, declaring
anyone who doesn't believe his nonsense will get shoveled into the furnace.

Tossed into the lake for not believing God. I have nothing to do with it and
neither do you. We are to believe the Lord, or not. I showed you the
consistency of God in both the old and the New, you either accept it or
disbelieve it, and you will be judged for your choice., as will I.

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who
Do not believe the grievous errors of the person to whom I am replying.

Father, forgive the idiot for not having a clue that he already is in
the lake of fire, and he is already suffering the punishment that he
tries to threaten others with.

Then why is it cold here, and why am I blessed of God?

Post by NightBulb.net
God punishes the wicked because he loves them, not because he wants to
punish them. The purpose of punishment is correction, not sadism.

He came not to condemn the world, he will punish the wicked at the time of
the white throne judgement. He admonishes and chastises his children.

He is in the process of a last mighty work. It has already begun. It is the
final hurrah of this age, and He will get ALL the GLORY for it. He is calling
the prodigals first and then bringing in the people of the world. It will be
done with power and Glory, so much so that only God can get the credit.

Post by NightBulb.net
"For the LORD will not cast off for ever: But though he cause grief, yet
will he have compassion according to the multitude of his mercies. For
he doth not afflict willingly nor grieve the children of men."
(Lamentations 3:31-3)
You have been cast off from God and left to your own fanatical religious
delusions to suffer in your own blindness. You are full of false
accusations, casting false accusations against me for telling the truth.
Dr. Woo, you are suffering God's wrath right now in this age. Welcome to
the lake of fire and brimstone, Bible Bureaucrat! You're in it!
get out now! Flee! The whore is burning! Stop burning with her!
"And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my
people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of
her plagues."

That does not happen until the time of the great tribulation and the day of
the Lord. And will not.

According to your word it matters not what I think or do, I can rape, rob,
pillage, murder, steal, lie. And enjoy all illicit and sexual fantasies my
flesh desires, and according to you I would be standing right next to you in
heaven, grinning with a Cheshires grin. I wouldn't even have to study the
Bible, believe in God, or anything of the sort. If what you said was true.
Therefor you saying I have been cast off, etc, has no weight or merit, and
this is what you are teaching those that are lost. The atheist and so on. So
why waste your time on the blog lying, and your time on the Usenet, lying and
deceiving people.

God paints a far different picture and I will believe him over your words at
all times.

[NightBulb.net]

Post by Dr. Who

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that
forget God.

Yes, and this prophecy has already been fulfilled. All the nations now
are in hell, groping in the darkness brought about by their sins. You
are taking something written about 3000 years ago, and pretending it
hasn't already happened. It began in 66-70 a.d. We are in that age of
fire, where the wrath of God is burning the nations as chaff. It is a
spiritual fire, not a literal flaming BBQ pit where bodies are shoveled.

Again you speak without knowledge 2022- 66 ad is 1956 years ago, not 3000. I
have shown you that before. It also does not fit the timeframes specified in
the Bible. You appear to have no understandings of timeframes and
dispensations.

The Psalms were written centuries before 66 a.d. Most of the Psalms were
written between 1010 and 930 B.C. which dates them at about 3000 years
ago, as I said. Go back and do the math again.

So my math is correct and your math is off by a thousand years, and you
are trying to lecture me on timelines. That is quite quaint. Did you
learn this bullshit spew in Catechism? Did the obedient peg boys of
Loyola teach you this nonsense?

I gave the correct timeline. The numbers above, written by me, then
written by you, don't lie.

You gave an incorrect timeline then accused me of having, "no
understandings of timeframes and dispensations." Yet you were off by a
thousand years while I was dead on the money at 3000 years ago.

And there's not much difference qualitatively between two and three
millennia when consider the shroud of history and prophecy. When a
prophecy was fulfilled 2000 years ago, or 1956 years ago, is immaterial
to the huge span of MILLENNIA between then and now.

So the prophecies of the Psalms were written a thousand years before
Christ, and then they were fulfilled by Christ. Except according to you,
a few verses that you cherry-pick, that must happen yet another 2000
years later, to prop up your hellfire myth. You're not getting away with
this lie, buster. You're caught red handed. Either the prophecies of the
psalms were fulfilled in Jesus as they say in the Old and New Testament,
or else Jesus has not come and all are lost:

"And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith
is also vain."

By preaching your hellfire myth, you are denying the resurrection of
Jesus Christ which took away death for all men. You are a shifty Roman
Catholic deceiver!

Either Jesus died and took away the sin of the world, and rose from the
dead, as the Psalms prophesied, or else there is nothing but a hopeless
void of Kingsford charcoal for all men, as your Imperial Roman teachers
want men to believe. Both can't be true. The two claims are mutually
exclusive. By claiming to believe in eternal death and hell, you are
denying the power of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. You are a Christ
denier!

Any reading of the Psalms will show that they are prophecies of the
birth, ministry, struggle, sufferings, and death of Christ Jesus. Except
for a verse or two that you cherry-pick out of context, and then project
forward to 2000 years after Christ, to prop up your myth that denies the
resurrection. I smell a Roman rat!

Your errors are laid bare, yet you continue to rail. You are in the lake
of fire. You were cast into it with the devil (Religious leadership) and
his angels (religious zealots). You're in it right now, burning. And you
still refuse to cop to it, even though you have shown you can't even
place writing or fulfillment of prophecy in the right millennium.

Shameless. Just shameless.

To anyone else calling themselves a follower of Jesus, use your brain
and do the math, and see the horrible error Dr. Woo made here. See how
craftily he twists scripture to deny that Jesus rose from the dead.

Dr. Woo, I now know for a truth that you do not believe in the
resurrection. You believe in something else that is from Church
tradition. Are any of the resident atheists in this newsgroup your Roman
sock-puppets?

Here is the truth of God's word. The 'lake of fire' is not a place. The
lake of fire is a prophetic time period and spiritual condition of
mankind in which the nations are swallowed up in God's wrath, devoid of
sense or reason, wreaking havoc on themselves and each other, because
they rejected Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. The nations are in
that lake of fire, now, today, and we are all in this age when no man
can work because the light has fled. But the age is nearing its end,
because all over cyberspace, if you are looking, you will find true
believers who are exposing the lies of Satan's Church system. For the
first time in fifteen centuries, millions of people are seeing and
hearing the Christian religion for what it truly is: The religious wing
of the kingdom of the Devil, appearing as an angel of light.

The day is coming, when Jehovah will be done chastising and punishing
mankind in their own corruption and blindness, when he will open their
eyes, heal their insanity, and conform them all, every last one of them,
every nation, kindred, tongue, and people, into the image of His Only
Begotten Son, raise them all from the dead, and grant them the
undeserved gift of eternal life. No amount of preaching hellfire can
stall the day of this great miracle that God will perform.

Not a single one of them will be able to boast that they earned it, or
escaped death by their own deeds. All eyes will be on Jesus forevermore;
the author and finisher of the Creation of God. God will dwell with his
people and all heaven and earth will celebrate life of endless duration
for all ages without end.

This is the good news. You are all going to be resurrected when this
long drama is done. The best of you, the worst of you, have nothing to
boast about except the deeds of Jesus Christ. Your sin is not strong
enough to separate you from the love of God. The lies of the Christian
religion about hellfire are not strong enough to separate you from the
love of God.

"For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor
principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor
height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us
from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

[Dr. Who]

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Post by Dr. Who

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that
forget God.

Yes, and this prophecy has already been fulfilled. All the nations now
are in hell, groping in the darkness brought about by their sins. You
are taking something written about 3000 years ago, and pretending it
hasn't already happened. It began in 66-70 a.d. We are in that age of
fire, where the wrath of God is burning the nations as chaff. It is a
spiritual fire, not a literal flaming BBQ pit where bodies are shoveled.

Again you speak without knowledge 2022- 66 ad is 1956 years ago, not 3000. I
have shown you that before. It also does not fit the timeframes specified in
the Bible. You appear to have no understandings of timeframes and
dispensations.

The Psalms were written centuries before 66 a.d. Most of the Psalms were
written between 1010 and 930 B.C. which dates them at about 3000 years
ago, as I said. Go back and do the math again.

You said "it began" in 66-70 a.d. YOUR words not mine.

Post by NightBulb.net
So my math is correct and your math is off by a thousand years, and you
are trying to lecture me on timelines. That is quite quaint. Did you
learn this bullshit spew in Catechism? Did the obedient peg boys of
Loyola teach you this nonsense?

Bearing false witness against others is a sin.

Post by NightBulb.net
I gave the correct timeline. The numbers above, written by me, then
written by you, don't lie.

Thank you for exonerating me.

Post by NightBulb.net
You gave an incorrect timeline then accused me of having, "no
understandings of timeframes and dispensations." Yet you were off by a
thousand years while I was dead on the money at 3000 years ago.

Yet you exonerated me.

Post by NightBulb.net
And there's not much difference qualitatively between two and three
millennia when consider the shroud of history and prophecy. When a
prophecy was fulfilled 2000 years ago, or 1956 years ago, is immaterial
to the huge span of MILLENNIA between then and now.

Oh? So now none of it really matters. Yet you attempted to make a big deal
out of it?

Post by NightBulb.net
So the prophecies of the Psalms were written a thousand years before
Christ, and then they were fulfilled by Christ. Except according to you,
a few verses that you cherry-pick, that must happen yet another 2000
years later, to prop up your hellfire myth. You're not getting away with
this lie, buster. You're caught red handed. Either the prophecies of the
psalms were fulfilled in Jesus as they say in the Old and New Testament,

All of the prophecies regarding King Jesus in the OT have yet to be
fulfilled.
And this chapter you have little to no understanding what it is saying.

Post by NightBulb.net
"And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith
is also vain."

What has this to do with the above paragraph?

Post by NightBulb.net
By preaching your hellfire myth, you are denying the resurrection of
Jesus Christ which took away death for all men. You are a shifty Roman
Catholic deceiver!

You ARE as foul mouthed as MM.
Jesus now has the keys to death, hell and the grave., you were conceived in
sin, and in sin will you die unless you are BORN OF GOD. If not then you will
die twice.

Post by NightBulb.net
Either Jesus died and took away the sin of the world, and rose from the
dead, as the Psalms prophesied, or else there is nothing but a hopeless
void of Kingsford charcoal for all men, as your Imperial Roman teachers
want men to believe. Both can't be true. The two claims are mutually
exclusive. By claiming to believe in eternal death and hell, you are
denying the power of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. You are a Christ
denier!

Jesus paid the price for sin. In me I have the power of the resurrection. You
have no understanding, and it appears that that you know not God
experientially.
<snip>
I am snipping your lies, about me, lies about the truth of the word of God,
And your waffling ways.

I told you the evil you are perpetrating upon the world, and everyone who
choses to believe your lies and ends up in hell, their blood will be on your
hands. Snipping it out does not make the truth of the matter disappear.

If you ask Michael nice enough maybe he will extend his pedestal and give you
a porcelain throne like his and you can both sit on your jusdgment thrones.

[Michael McLean]

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Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that
forget God.

Yes, and this prophecy has already been fulfilled. All the nations now
are in hell, groping in the darkness brought about by their sins. You
are taking something written about 3000 years ago, and pretending it
hasn't already happened. It began in 66-70 a.d. We are in that age of
fire, where the wrath of God is burning the nations as chaff. It is a
spiritual fire, not a literal flaming BBQ pit where bodies are shoveled.

Again you speak without knowledge 2022- 66 ad is 1956 years ago, not 3000. I
have shown you that before. It also does not fit the timeframes specified in
the Bible. You appear to have no understandings of timeframes and
dispensations.

The Psalms were written centuries before 66 a.d. Most of the Psalms were
written between 1010 and 930 B.C. which dates them at about 3000 years
ago, as I said. Go back and do the math again.

You said "it began" in 66-70 a.d. YOUR words not mine.

Post by NightBulb.net
So my math is correct and your math is off by a thousand years, and you
are trying to lecture me on timelines. That is quite quaint. Did you
learn this bullshit spew in Catechism? Did the obedient peg boys of
Loyola teach you this nonsense?

Bearing false witness against others is a sin.

Post by NightBulb.net
I gave the correct timeline. The numbers above, written by me, then
written by you, don't lie.

Thank you for exonerating me.

Post by NightBulb.net
You gave an incorrect timeline then accused me of having, "no
understandings of timeframes and dispensations." Yet you were off by a
thousand years while I was dead on the money at 3000 years ago.

Yet you exonerated me.

Post by NightBulb.net
And there's not much difference qualitatively between two and three
millennia when consider the shroud of history and prophecy. When a
prophecy was fulfilled 2000 years ago, or 1956 years ago, is immaterial
to the huge span of MILLENNIA between then and now.

Oh? So now none of it really matters. Yet you attempted to make a big deal
out of it?

Post by NightBulb.net
So the prophecies of the Psalms were written a thousand years before
Christ, and then they were fulfilled by Christ. Except according to you,
a few verses that you cherry-pick, that must happen yet another 2000
years later, to prop up your hellfire myth. You're not getting away with
this lie, buster. You're caught red handed. Either the prophecies of the
psalms were fulfilled in Jesus as they say in the Old and New Testament,

All of the prophecies regarding King Jesus in the OT have yet to be
fulfilled.
And this chapter you have little to no understanding what it is saying.

Post by NightBulb.net
"And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith
is also vain."

What has this to do with the above paragraph?

Post by NightBulb.net
By preaching your hellfire myth, you are denying the resurrection of
Jesus Christ which took away death for all men. You are a shifty Roman
Catholic deceiver!

You ARE as foul mouthed as MM.
Jesus now has the keys to death, hell and the grave., you were conceived in
sin, and in sin will you die unless you are BORN OF GOD. If not then you will
die twice.

Post by NightBulb.net
Either Jesus died and took away the sin of the world, and rose from the
dead, as the Psalms prophesied, or else there is nothing but a hopeless
void of Kingsford charcoal for all men, as your Imperial Roman teachers
want men to believe. Both can't be true. The two claims are mutually
exclusive. By claiming to believe in eternal death and hell, you are
denying the power of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. You are a Christ
denier!

Jesus paid the price for sin. In me I have the power of the resurrection. You
have no understanding, and it appears that that you know not God
experientially.
<snip>
I am snipping your lies, about me, lies about the truth of the word of God,
And your waffling ways.
I told you the evil you are perpetrating upon the world, and everyone who
choses to believe your lies and ends up in hell, their blood will be on your
hands. Snipping it out does not make the truth of the matter disappear.
If you ask Michael nice enough maybe he will extend his pedestal and give you
a porcelain throne like his and you can both sit on your jusdgment thrones.

Shut up, you bastard. How dare you call a member of the royal family a
toilet king! That is not going to bode well for you in the hereafter,
Bubba!

Or even now!

How dare thee show such contempt for the family of God! Thou foul
fiend, smelly Sunday nicely clothed speaker of holy nicenessness
humanism, and sleeping partner of one Frank atheist "everything did it
itselfer"!

Ye will kneel before the Host of Heaven or be toast!



Mike

PS: Praise the Lord I was hosed off after I passed through your "S"
bend! Though, I am thankful for the experience as once being on your
side now gives me the view of what you truly are from the other side.

You aren't a pretty sight, Bible Bubba Bob, for you truly are a foul
"everything I do me-selfer".

After all...

2Ti_2:15  Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that
needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

...it is YOUR "study" and the "study" of your ilk that does it.

Strive, struggle, strain, and stress to be what you say you are.
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better than what makes it heaven."

[Dr. Who]

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Post by Dr. Who
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that
forget God.

Yes, and this prophecy has already been fulfilled. All the nations now
are in hell, groping in the darkness brought about by their sins. You
are taking something written about 3000 years ago, and pretending it
hasn't already happened. It began in 66-70 a.d. We are in that age of
fire, where the wrath of God is burning the nations as chaff. It is a
spiritual fire, not a literal flaming BBQ pit where bodies are shoveled.

Again you speak without knowledge 2022- 66 ad is 1956 years ago, not 3000. I
have shown you that before. It also does not fit the timeframes specified in
the Bible. You appear to have no understandings of timeframes and
dispensations.

The Psalms were written centuries before 66 a.d. Most of the Psalms were
written between 1010 and 930 B.C. which dates them at about 3000 years
ago, as I said. Go back and do the math again.

You said "it began" in 66-70 a.d. YOUR words not mine.

Post by NightBulb.net
So my math is correct and your math is off by a thousand years, and you
are trying to lecture me on timelines. That is quite quaint. Did you
learn this bullshit spew in Catechism? Did the obedient peg boys of
Loyola teach you this nonsense?

Bearing false witness against others is a sin.

Post by NightBulb.net
I gave the correct timeline. The numbers above, written by me, then
written by you, don't lie.

Thank you for exonerating me.

Post by NightBulb.net
You gave an incorrect timeline then accused me of having, "no
understandings of timeframes and dispensations." Yet you were off by a
thousand years while I was dead on the money at 3000 years ago.

Yet you exonerated me.

Post by NightBulb.net
And there's not much difference qualitatively between two and three
millennia when consider the shroud of history and prophecy. When a
prophecy was fulfilled 2000 years ago, or 1956 years ago, is immaterial
to the huge span of MILLENNIA between then and now.

Oh? So now none of it really matters. Yet you attempted to make a big deal
out of it?

Post by NightBulb.net
So the prophecies of the Psalms were written a thousand years before
Christ, and then they were fulfilled by Christ. Except according to you,
a few verses that you cherry-pick, that must happen yet another 2000
years later, to prop up your hellfire myth. You're not getting away with
this lie, buster. You're caught red handed. Either the prophecies of the
psalms were fulfilled in Jesus as they say in the Old and New Testament,

All of the prophecies regarding King Jesus in the OT have yet to be
fulfilled.
And this chapter you have little to no understanding what it is saying.

Post by NightBulb.net
"And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith
is also vain."

What has this to do with the above paragraph?

Post by NightBulb.net
By preaching your hellfire myth, you are denying the resurrection of
Jesus Christ which took away death for all men. You are a shifty Roman
Catholic deceiver!

You ARE as foul mouthed as MM.
Jesus now has the keys to death, hell and the grave., you were conceived in
sin, and in sin will you die unless you are BORN OF GOD. If not then you
will die twice.

Post by NightBulb.net
Either Jesus died and took away the sin of the world, and rose from the
dead, as the Psalms prophesied, or else there is nothing but a hopeless
void of Kingsford charcoal for all men, as your Imperial Roman teachers
want men to believe. Both can't be true. The two claims are mutually
exclusive. By claiming to believe in eternal death and hell, you are
denying the power of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. You are a Christ
denier!

Jesus paid the price for sin. In me I have the power of the resurrection. You
have no understanding, and it appears that that you know not God
experientially.
<snip>
I am snipping your lies, about me, lies about the truth of the word of God,
And your waffling ways.
I told you the evil you are perpetrating upon the world, and everyone who
choses to believe your lies and ends up in hell, their blood will be on your
hands. Snipping it out does not make the truth of the matter disappear.
If you ask Michael nice enough maybe he will extend his pedestal and give you
a porcelain throne like his and you can both sit on your jusdgment thrones.

Shut up, you bastard. How dare you call a member of the royal family a
toilet king! That is not going to bode well for you in the hereafter,
Bubba!

I am so sorry to have offended you, should I have inferred that you are a
Toilet Queen?

Or even now!
How dare thee show such contempt for the family of God! Thou foul
fiend, smelly Sunday nicely clothed speaker of holy nicenessness
humanism, and sleeping partner of one Frank atheist "everything did it
itselfer"!
Ye will kneel before the Host of Heaven or be toast!
Mike
PS: Praise the Lord I was hosed off after I passed through your "S"
bend! Though, I am thankful for the experience as once being on your
side now gives me the view of what you truly are from the other side.
You aren't a pretty sight, Bible Bubba Bob, for you truly are a foul
"everything I do me-selfer".
After all...
2Ti_2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that
needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
...it is YOUR "study" and the "study" of your ilk that does it.
Strive, struggle, strain, and stress to be what you say you are.

[Michael McLean]

Post by Dr. Who

Post by Dr. Who

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that
forget God.

Yes, and this prophecy has already been fulfilled. All the nations now
are in hell, groping in the darkness brought about by their sins. You
are taking something written about 3000 years ago, and pretending it
hasn't already happened. It began in 66-70 a.d. We are in that age of
fire, where the wrath of God is burning the nations as chaff. It is a
spiritual fire, not a literal flaming BBQ pit where bodies are shoveled.

Again you speak without knowledge 2022- 66 ad is 1956 years ago, not 3000. I
have shown you that before. It also does not fit the timeframes specified in
the Bible. You appear to have no understandings of timeframes and
dispensations.

The Psalms were written centuries before 66 a.d. Most of the Psalms were
written between 1010 and 930 B.C. which dates them at about 3000 years
ago, as I said. Go back and do the math again.

You said "it began" in 66-70 a.d. YOUR words not mine.

Post by NightBulb.net
So my math is correct and your math is off by a thousand years, and you
are trying to lecture me on timelines. That is quite quaint. Did you
learn this bullshit spew in Catechism? Did the obedient peg boys of
Loyola teach you this nonsense?

Bearing false witness against others is a sin.

Post by NightBulb.net
I gave the correct timeline. The numbers above, written by me, then
written by you, don't lie.

Thank you for exonerating me.

Post by NightBulb.net
You gave an incorrect timeline then accused me of having, "no
understandings of timeframes and dispensations." Yet you were off by a
thousand years while I was dead on the money at 3000 years ago.

Yet you exonerated me.

Post by NightBulb.net
And there's not much difference qualitatively between two and three
millennia when consider the shroud of history and prophecy. When a
prophecy was fulfilled 2000 years ago, or 1956 years ago, is immaterial
to the huge span of MILLENNIA between then and now.

Oh? So now none of it really matters. Yet you attempted to make a big deal
out of it?

Post by NightBulb.net
So the prophecies of the Psalms were written a thousand years before
Christ, and then they were fulfilled by Christ. Except according to you,
a few verses that you cherry-pick, that must happen yet another 2000
years later, to prop up your hellfire myth. You're not getting away with
this lie, buster. You're caught red handed. Either the prophecies of the
psalms were fulfilled in Jesus as they say in the Old and New Testament,

All of the prophecies regarding King Jesus in the OT have yet to be
fulfilled.
And this chapter you have little to no understanding what it is saying.

Post by NightBulb.net
"And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith
is also vain."

What has this to do with the above paragraph?

Post by NightBulb.net
By preaching your hellfire myth, you are denying the resurrection of
Jesus Christ which took away death for all men. You are a shifty Roman
Catholic deceiver!

You ARE as foul mouthed as MM.
Jesus now has the keys to death, hell and the grave., you were conceived in
sin, and in sin will you die unless you are BORN OF GOD. If not then you
will die twice.

Post by NightBulb.net
Either Jesus died and took away the sin of the world, and rose from the
dead, as the Psalms prophesied, or else there is nothing but a hopeless
void of Kingsford charcoal for all men, as your Imperial Roman teachers
want men to believe. Both can't be true. The two claims are mutually
exclusive. By claiming to believe in eternal death and hell, you are
denying the power of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. You are a Christ
denier!

Jesus paid the price for sin. In me I have the power of the resurrection. You
have no understanding, and it appears that that you know not God
experientially.
<snip>
I am snipping your lies, about me, lies about the truth of the word of God,
And your waffling ways.
I told you the evil you are perpetrating upon the world, and everyone who
choses to believe your lies and ends up in hell, their blood will be on your
hands. Snipping it out does not make the truth of the matter disappear.
If you ask Michael nice enough maybe he will extend his pedestal and give you
a porcelain throne like his and you can both sit on your jusdgment thrones.

Shut up, you bastard. How dare you call a member of the royal family a
toilet king! That is not going to bode well for you in the hereafter,
Bubba!

I am so sorry to have offended you, should I have inferred that you are a
Toilet Queen?

:-). There goes your recent sorrowful sinner repentance up in smoke! :-).

Well, it was all smoke anyway. :-). There was so much smoke, we
couldn't see the mirror in it. :-).

Why aren't you studying to show yourself approved? Now, get going!
Strive, struggle, strain, and stress to try to be what you say you are!!!

You wanted you, you got you.

You were warned. Now, Frankly, your atheist lover, is calling you for
more spiritual union. :-).





Mike

Post by Dr. Who

Or even now!
How dare thee show such contempt for the family of God! Thou foul
fiend, smelly Sunday nicely clothed speaker of holy nicenessness
humanism, and sleeping partner of one Frank atheist "everything did it
itselfer"!
Ye will kneel before the Host of Heaven or be toast!
Mike
PS: Praise the Lord I was hosed off after I passed through your "S"
bend! Though, I am thankful for the experience as once being on your
side now gives me the view of what you truly are from the other side.
You aren't a pretty sight, Bible Bubba Bob, for you truly are a foul
"everything I do me-selfer".
After all...
2Ti_2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that
needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
...it is YOUR "study" and the "study" of your ilk that does it.
Strive, struggle, strain, and stress to be what you say you are.

--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better than what makes it heaven."

[Dr. Who]

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Post by Dr. Who

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations
that
forget God.

Yes, and this prophecy has already been fulfilled. All the nations now
are in hell, groping in the darkness brought about by their sins. You
are taking something written about 3000 years ago, and pretending it
hasn't already happened. It began in 66-70 a.d. We are in that age of
fire, where the wrath of God is burning the nations as chaff. It is a
spiritual fire, not a literal flaming BBQ pit where bodies are
shoveled.

Again you speak without knowledge 2022- 66 ad is 1956 years ago, not
3000. I
have shown you that before. It also does not fit the timeframes
specified
in
the Bible. You appear to have no understandings of timeframes and
dispensations.

The Psalms were written centuries before 66 a.d. Most of the Psalms were
written between 1010 and 930 B.C. which dates them at about 3000 years
ago, as I said. Go back and do the math again.

You said "it began" in 66-70 a.d. YOUR words not mine.

Post by NightBulb.net
So my math is correct and your math is off by a thousand years, and you
are trying to lecture me on timelines. That is quite quaint. Did you
learn this bullshit spew in Catechism? Did the obedient peg boys of
Loyola teach you this nonsense?

Bearing false witness against others is a sin.

Post by NightBulb.net
I gave the correct timeline. The numbers above, written by me, then
written by you, don't lie.

Thank you for exonerating me.

Post by NightBulb.net
You gave an incorrect timeline then accused me of having, "no
understandings of timeframes and dispensations." Yet you were off by a
thousand years while I was dead on the money at 3000 years ago.

Yet you exonerated me.

Post by NightBulb.net
And there's not much difference qualitatively between two and three
millennia when consider the shroud of history and prophecy. When a
prophecy was fulfilled 2000 years ago, or 1956 years ago, is immaterial
to the huge span of MILLENNIA between then and now.

Oh? So now none of it really matters. Yet you attempted to make a big deal
out of it?

Post by NightBulb.net
So the prophecies of the Psalms were written a thousand years before
Christ, and then they were fulfilled by Christ. Except according to you,
a few verses that you cherry-pick, that must happen yet another 2000
years later, to prop up your hellfire myth. You're not getting away with
this lie, buster. You're caught red handed. Either the prophecies of the
psalms were fulfilled in Jesus as they say in the Old and New Testament,

All of the prophecies regarding King Jesus in the OT have yet to be
fulfilled.
And this chapter you have little to no understanding what it is saying.

Post by NightBulb.net
"And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith
is also vain."

What has this to do with the above paragraph?

Post by NightBulb.net
By preaching your hellfire myth, you are denying the resurrection of
Jesus Christ which took away death for all men. You are a shifty Roman
Catholic deceiver!

You ARE as foul mouthed as MM.
Jesus now has the keys to death, hell and the grave., you were conceived in
sin, and in sin will you die unless you are BORN OF GOD. If not then you
will die twice.

Post by NightBulb.net
Either Jesus died and took away the sin of the world, and rose from the
dead, as the Psalms prophesied, or else there is nothing but a hopeless
void of Kingsford charcoal for all men, as your Imperial Roman teachers
want men to believe. Both can't be true. The two claims are mutually
exclusive. By claiming to believe in eternal death and hell, you are
denying the power of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. You are a Christ
denier!

Jesus paid the price for sin. In me I have the power of the resurrection. You
have no understanding, and it appears that that you know not God
experientially.
<snip>
I am snipping your lies, about me, lies about the truth of the word of God,
And your waffling ways.
I told you the evil you are perpetrating upon the world, and everyone who
choses to believe your lies and ends up in hell, their blood will be on your
hands. Snipping it out does not make the truth of the matter disappear.
If you ask Michael nice enough maybe he will extend his pedestal and give you
a porcelain throne like his and you can both sit on your jusdgment thrones.

Shut up, you bastard. How dare you call a member of the royal family a
toilet king! That is not going to bode well for you in the hereafter,
Bubba!

I am so sorry to have offended you, should I have inferred that you are a
Toilet Queen?
-). There goes your recent sorrowful sinner repentance up in smoke! :-).

Well, it was all smoke anyway. :-). There was so much smoke, we
couldn't see the mirror in it. :-).

What did I do other than apologize for the way you felt about something I did
not say, and then asked you a question if I should have said the opposite of
what you felt.

Why aren't you studying to show yourself approved? Now, get going!
Strive, struggle, strain, and stress to try to be what you say you are!!!
You wanted you, you got you.
You were warned. Now, Frankly, your atheist lover, is calling you for
more spiritual union. :-).
Mike

Post by Dr. Who

Or even now!
How dare thee show such contempt for the family of God! Thou foul
fiend, smelly Sunday nicely clothed speaker of holy nicenessness
humanism, and sleeping partner of one Frank atheist "everything did it
itselfer"!
Ye will kneel before the Host of Heaven or be toast!
Mike
PS: Praise the Lord I was hosed off after I passed through your "S"
bend! Though, I am thankful for the experience as once being on your
side now gives me the view of what you truly are from the other side.
You aren't a pretty sight, Bible Bubba Bob, for you truly are a foul
"everything I do me-selfer".
After all...
2Ti_2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that
needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
...it is YOUR "study" and the "study" of your ilk that does it.
Strive, struggle, strain, and stress to be what you say you are.

[Michael McLean]

Post by Dr. Who

Post by Dr. Who

Post by Dr. Who

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that
forget God.

Yes, and this prophecy has already been fulfilled. All the nations now
are in hell, groping in the darkness brought about by their sins. You
are taking something written about 3000 years ago, and pretending it
hasn't already happened. It began in 66-70 a.d. We are in that age of
fire, where the wrath of God is burning the nations as chaff. It is a
spiritual fire, not a literal flaming BBQ pit where bodies are shoveled.

Again you speak without knowledge 2022- 66 ad is 1956 years ago, not 3000. I
have shown you that before. It also does not fit the timeframes
specified
in
the Bible. You appear to have no understandings of timeframes and
dispensations.

The Psalms were written centuries before 66 a.d. Most of the Psalms were
written between 1010 and 930 B.C. which dates them at about 3000 years
ago, as I said. Go back and do the math again.

You said "it began" in 66-70 a.d. YOUR words not mine.

Post by NightBulb.net
So my math is correct and your math is off by a thousand years, and you
are trying to lecture me on timelines. That is quite quaint. Did you
learn this bullshit spew in Catechism? Did the obedient peg boys of
Loyola teach you this nonsense?

Bearing false witness against others is a sin.

Post by NightBulb.net
I gave the correct timeline. The numbers above, written by me, then
written by you, don't lie.

Thank you for exonerating me.

Post by NightBulb.net
You gave an incorrect timeline then accused me of having, "no
understandings of timeframes and dispensations." Yet you were off by a
thousand years while I was dead on the money at 3000 years ago.

Yet you exonerated me.

Post by NightBulb.net
And there's not much difference qualitatively between two and three
millennia when consider the shroud of history and prophecy. When a
prophecy was fulfilled 2000 years ago, or 1956 years ago, is immaterial
to the huge span of MILLENNIA between then and now.

Oh? So now none of it really matters. Yet you attempted to make a big deal
out of it?

Post by NightBulb.net
So the prophecies of the Psalms were written a thousand years before
Christ, and then they were fulfilled by Christ. Except according to you,
a few verses that you cherry-pick, that must happen yet another 2000
years later, to prop up your hellfire myth. You're not getting away with
this lie, buster. You're caught red handed. Either the prophecies of the
psalms were fulfilled in Jesus as they say in the Old and New Testament,

All of the prophecies regarding King Jesus in the OT have yet to be
fulfilled.
And this chapter you have little to no understanding what it is saying.

Post by NightBulb.net
"And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith
is also vain."

What has this to do with the above paragraph?

Post by NightBulb.net
By preaching your hellfire myth, you are denying the resurrection of
Jesus Christ which took away death for all men. You are a shifty Roman
Catholic deceiver!

You ARE as foul mouthed as MM.
Jesus now has the keys to death, hell and the grave., you were conceived in
sin, and in sin will you die unless you are BORN OF GOD. If not then you
will die twice.

Post by NightBulb.net
Either Jesus died and took away the sin of the world, and rose from the
dead, as the Psalms prophesied, or else there is nothing but a hopeless
void of Kingsford charcoal for all men, as your Imperial Roman teachers
want men to believe. Both can't be true. The two claims are mutually
exclusive. By claiming to believe in eternal death and hell, you are
denying the power of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. You are a Christ
denier!

Jesus paid the price for sin. In me I have the power of the resurrection. You
have no understanding, and it appears that that you know not God
experientially.
<snip>
I am snipping your lies, about me, lies about the truth of the word of God,
And your waffling ways.
I told you the evil you are perpetrating upon the world, and everyone who
choses to believe your lies and ends up in hell, their blood will be on your
hands. Snipping it out does not make the truth of the matter disappear.
If you ask Michael nice enough maybe he will extend his pedestal and give you
a porcelain throne like his and you can both sit on your jusdgment thrones.

Shut up, you bastard. How dare you call a member of the royal family a
toilet king! That is not going to bode well for you in the hereafter,
Bubba!

I am so sorry to have offended you, should I have inferred that you are a
Toilet Queen?
-). There goes your recent sorrowful sinner repentance up in smoke! :-).

Well, it was all smoke anyway. :-). There was so much smoke, we
couldn't see the mirror in it. :-).

What did I do other than apologize for the way you felt about something I did
not say, and then asked you a question if I should have said the opposite of
what you felt.

That sounds discombobulated.

Are you going to repent again anytime soon?

Or must we all endure?




Mike

Post by Dr. Who

Why aren't you studying to show yourself approved? Now, get going!
Strive, struggle, strain, and stress to try to be what you say you are!!!
You wanted you, you got you.
You were warned. Now, Frankly, your atheist lover, is calling you for
more spiritual union. :-).
Mike

Post by Dr. Who

Or even now!
How dare thee show such contempt for the family of God! Thou foul
fiend, smelly Sunday nicely clothed speaker of holy nicenessness
humanism, and sleeping partner of one Frank atheist "everything did it
itselfer"!
Ye will kneel before the Host of Heaven or be toast!
Mike
PS: Praise the Lord I was hosed off after I passed through your "S"
bend! Though, I am thankful for the experience as once being on your
side now gives me the view of what you truly are from the other side.
You aren't a pretty sight, Bible Bubba Bob, for you truly are a foul
"everything I do me-selfer".
After all...
2Ti_2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that
needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
...it is YOUR "study" and the "study" of your ilk that does it.
Strive, struggle, strain, and stress to be what you say you are.

--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better than what makes it heaven."

[NightBulb.net]

Post by Dr. Who

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that
forget God.

Yes, and this prophecy has already been fulfilled. All the nations now
are in hell, groping in the darkness brought about by their sins. You
are taking something written about 3000 years ago, and pretending it
hasn't already happened. It began in 66-70 a.d. We are in that age of
fire, where the wrath of God is burning the nations as chaff. It is a
spiritual fire, not a literal flaming BBQ pit where bodies are shoveled.

Again you speak without knowledge 2022- 66 ad is 1956 years ago, not 3000. I
have shown you that before. It also does not fit the timeframes specified in
the Bible. You appear to have no understandings of timeframes and
dispensations.

The Psalms were written centuries before 66 a.d. Most of the Psalms were
written between 1010 and 930 B.C. which dates them at about 3000 years
ago, as I said. Go back and do the math again.

You said "it began" in 66-70 a.d. YOUR words not mine.

Post by NightBulb.net
So my math is correct and your math is off by a thousand years, and you
are trying to lecture me on timelines. That is quite quaint. Did you
learn this bullshit spew in Catechism? Did the obedient peg boys of
Loyola teach you this nonsense?

Bearing false witness against others is a sin.

Post by NightBulb.net
I gave the correct timeline. The numbers above, written by me, then
written by you, don't lie.

Thank you for exonerating me.

I didn't exonerate you. Your numbers tell the truth about your ignorance
and prove my points. You're a sneaky little word-twister.

Post by Dr. Who

Post by NightBulb.net
You gave an incorrect timeline then accused me of having, "no
understandings of timeframes and dispensations." Yet you were off by a
thousand years while I was dead on the money at 3000 years ago.

Yet you exonerated me.

You are being beyond irascible. I did not exonerate you. Your numbers
don't lie about your ignorance. Any idiot can see you interpret things
to your agenda rather than to what was actually said. You do the same
with the bible.

Post by Dr. Who

Post by NightBulb.net
And there's not much difference qualitatively between two and three
millennia when consider the shroud of history and prophecy. When a
prophecy was fulfilled 2000 years ago, or 1956 years ago, is immaterial
to the huge span of MILLENNIA between then and now.

Oh? So now none of it really matters. Yet you attempted to make a big deal
out of it?

Twisting words again, I see. You are a snake.

Post by Dr. Who

Post by NightBulb.net
So the prophecies of the Psalms were written a thousand years before
Christ, and then they were fulfilled by Christ. Except according to you,
a few verses that you cherry-pick, that must happen yet another 2000
years later, to prop up your hellfire myth. You're not getting away with
this lie, buster. You're caught red handed. Either the prophecies of the
psalms were fulfilled in Jesus as they say in the Old and New Testament,

All of the prophecies regarding King Jesus in the OT have yet to be
fulfilled

Then you deny the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and expose
yourself as a Judaizer. The prophecies of the Old Testament are about
his birth, death, and resurrection. If they haven't been fulfilled, then
there is no salvation.

"And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your
sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. If
in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable."

Jesus said on the cross, "It is finished," not, "It will be finished in
another 2000 or 3000 years."

The prophecies of the Old Testament are about the life of Jesus, not
about some future event 2000 or 3000 years after the life of Jesus. If
those prophecies are not all fulfilled in the resurrection of Jesus
Christ then all your twaddle about religion, faith, or anything, is
vanity and hopelessness.

Post by Dr. Who
And this chapter you have little to no understanding what it is saying.

Now I see why Michael calls you nasty names. You remain willfully blind.
You deserve scorn and derision.

Post by Dr. Who

Post by NightBulb.net
"And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith
is also vain."

What has this to do with the above paragraph?

You couldn't begin to understand because you are not here to discuss the
gospel. You are here to make the word of God look insane so people will
flee from it. Let me sum up your version of the gospel:

God wants you to be saved. But he is powerless to save you unless you do
something to make it happen. And if you don't save yourself by believing
and living a moral, righteous life, then God will throw you into a
blazing coke pit for endless eternity to writhe in agony forevermore.
You will write and scream in endless pain and horror and torment in
flames hotter than molten steel, because you didn't do the right thing.
God will toss you into this pit and watch you burn forever, while the
sigma-male giga-chad, Satan, stokes the flames to keep you burning! This
is what God will do to you!

But he loves you!

The real gospel is very different than the nonsensical, sado-masachist
heathenism that you promote.

The real gospel is that mankind rebelled against God before the world
even began, in the sin of Adam. All men born inherit the judgment
against Adam. This caused man to become mortal, imprisoned in flesh, and
separated from God. Man would be lost in this condition forever, totally
separated from God, and man could never have any power to change his
situation. Man cannot love god because man is now imprisoned in sin, and
his nature has become rebellious, so that keeps him apart from the
Father. God, loving all souls of all men, set into motion a new
creation, and a new beginning of a new world, through his Son Jesus, to
undo the death wrought by Adam, to redeem men from their sins, and bring
them all back into the Father's house and clothe them with immortality.
Jesus finished this work on the cross, and now all who believe on him
may eat freely of the tree of life.

As long as man struggles to save himself he will remain dead. When man
lays down his own life and his own will, and is drawn to Jesus, then man
will be raised to life. First the firstfruits, them that believe, then
much later the more rebellious, them who resist Jesus, who will be
broken and purged like chaff. But each one will in his own time, "come
to the end of himself", and see the father's forgiveness and be raised
to life. The story of the prodigal son lays out the gospel in a nutshell.

Your dogma about hellfire and eternal damnation is a twisting of
scripture that paints God as a monster, Jesus a weakling, and the Devil
as a successful Giga-Chad Sigma Male whom God just can't seem to defeat.

Post by Dr. Who

Post by NightBulb.net
By preaching your hellfire myth, you are denying the resurrection of
Jesus Christ which took away death for all men. You are a shifty Roman
Catholic deceiver!

You ARE as foul mouthed as MM.

The word is 'shifty' with a 'F'. Look at it and re-read. SHIFTY. You
shift around, waffle, ignore the main point, and tilt at windmills, then
declare victory!

Strain at a gnat and swallow a camel, Pharisee. You deny the
resurrection of Jesus and the salvation that his blood paid for. Then
you try to school me about bad words (which I didn't even use). This is
what any faithful Roman Catholic might do. But I didn't even use the bad
word you seem to think I used.

Post by Dr. Who
Jesus now has the keys to death, hell and the grave., you were conceived in
sin, and in sin will you die unless you are BORN OF GOD. If not then you will
die twice.

Being born of God is something God does. It is not something that you
do. A man doesn't give birth to himself by his own labor pains! God
conceived Jesus by the power of the Holy Ghost. There's a lesson there
for Catholics and Protestants their clergy never told them.

That's the difference between me and you. I know that salvation is of
the Lord and has nothing to do with my smaller-than-mustard-seed faith.
Salvation is the result of Jesus and His big as a mountain Faith. You
don't even have faith as a grain of mustard seed, and walk around proud
and pompous about your elevated status. It's gross and disgusting.

Post by Dr. Who

Post by NightBulb.net
Either Jesus died and took away the sin of the world, and rose from the
dead, as the Psalms prophesied, or else there is nothing but a hopeless
void of Kingsford charcoal for all men, as your Imperial Roman teachers
want men to believe. Both can't be true. The two claims are mutually
exclusive. By claiming to believe in eternal death and hell, you are
denying the power of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. You are a Christ
denier!

Jesus paid the price for sin. In me I have the power of the resurrection. You
have no understanding, and it appears that that you know not God
experientially.

You claim to have the power of resurrection within yourself? Astounding.
Did they teach you that the mass wafer does that magic for you?

Paul the Apostle disagrees with your claim of having the power of
resurrection within yourself:

"That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the
fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; If
by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead. Not as
though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow
after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of
Christ Jesus. Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this
one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching
forth unto those things which are before, I press toward the mark for
the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus."

Paul met Jesus on the road and was taken into the heavens to see things
no man can utter, yet says he has not yet apprehended to that power of
the resurrection. But are we to believe that Dr. Woo has apprehended it?

None of the Apostles ever claimed the power of the resurrection was
theirs. They said it is the power of Jesus:

"And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit
of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:"

Post by Dr. Who
<snip>
I am snipping your lies, about me, lies about the truth of the word of God,
And your waffling ways.

Blah, blah, blah. You are so full of sewage that your eyeballs float in
their beady sockets!

Post by Dr. Who
I told you the evil you are perpetrating upon the world, and everyone who
choses to believe your lies and ends up in hell, their blood will be on your
hands. Snipping it out does not make the truth of the matter disappear.

Blah, blah, blah. I have no authority or power to judge anyone's sin or
to condemn any man for his sins. I am called to forgive those who abuse
me, and bless, and pray for those who sin and walk in darkness, and to
shine the light of truth on their nonsense and religious con-artistry so
that those who are ready to see and hear may be edified.

I have shown you repeatedly from scripture that you already have died,
and you already are in hell, and you already are scrabbling at the sides
of the pit with your religious nonsense. No matter how hard you scrabble
with religion you will never be able to climb out of the crab bucket.

Post by Dr. Who
If you ask Michael nice enough maybe he will extend his pedestal and give you
a porcelain throne like his and you can both sit on your jusdgment thrones.

I sit in judgment of myself and my own deeds so that I avoid harsher
judgement from God. It is you that routinely judges others, calls them
Satan, accuses them of being in league with the devil, and so forth,
when they tell you the truth. I just call a spade a spade.

Dr. Woo, we could go back and forth like this until another return of
Jesus Christ and I don't think you would ever offer anything but proud
resistance. You have chosen your path, and I am not going to try to
change you with pointless debate. Enjoy serving your Luciferian
self-improvement "King like the other nations". May his shackles rest
lightly on you.

[Michael McLean]

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Dr. Who
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that
forget God.

Yes, and this prophecy has already been fulfilled. All the nations now
are in hell, groping in the darkness brought about by their sins. You
are taking something written about 3000 years ago, and pretending it
hasn't already happened. It began in 66-70 a.d. We are in that age of
fire, where the wrath of God is burning the nations as chaff. It is a
spiritual fire, not a literal flaming BBQ pit where bodies are shoveled.

Again you speak without knowledge 2022- 66 ad is 1956 years ago, not 3000. I
have shown you that before. It also does not fit the timeframes specified in
the Bible. You appear to have no understandings of timeframes and
dispensations.

The Psalms were written centuries before 66 a.d. Most of the Psalms were
written between 1010 and 930 B.C. which dates them at about 3000 years
ago, as I said. Go back and do the math again.
So my math is correct and your math is off by a thousand years, and you
are trying to lecture me on timelines. That is quite quaint. Did you
learn this bullshit spew in Catechism? Did the obedient peg boys of
Loyola teach you this nonsense?
I gave the correct timeline. The numbers above, written by me, then
written by you, don't lie.
You gave an incorrect timeline then accused me of having, "no
understandings of timeframes and dispensations." Yet you were off by a
thousand years while I was dead on the money at 3000 years ago.
And there's not much difference qualitatively between two and three
millennia when consider the shroud of history and prophecy. When a
prophecy was fulfilled 2000 years ago, or 1956 years ago, is immaterial
to the huge span of MILLENNIA between then and now.
So the prophecies of the Psalms were written a thousand years before
Christ, and then they were fulfilled by Christ. Except according to you,
a few verses that you cherry-pick, that must happen yet another 2000
years later, to prop up your hellfire myth. You're not getting away with
this lie, buster. You're caught red handed. Either the prophecies of the
psalms were fulfilled in Jesus as they say in the Old and New Testament,
"And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith
is also vain."
By preaching your hellfire myth, you are denying the resurrection of
Jesus Christ which took away death for all men. You are a shifty Roman
Catholic deceiver!
Either Jesus died and took away the sin of the world, and rose from the
dead, as the Psalms prophesied, or else there is nothing but a hopeless
void of Kingsford charcoal for all men, as your Imperial Roman teachers
want men to believe. Both can't be true. The two claims are mutually
exclusive. By claiming to believe in eternal death and hell, you are
denying the power of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. You are a Christ
denier!

Robert Woo doesn't know the Lord Jesus; he hasn't got a clue.

This is the amazing thing: people like him throw people into hell for
their sin and they sin! Amazing!!! Unbelievable.

They don't even know what sin is in their self-righteousness.

Post by NightBulb.net
Any reading of the Psalms will show that they are prophecies of the
birth, ministry, struggle, sufferings, and death of Christ Jesus. Except
for a verse or two that you cherry-pick out of context, and then project
forward to 2000 years after Christ, to prop up your myth that denies the
resurrection. I smell a Roman rat!

Protestantism is just Roman Catholicism in disguise; it all comes from
the same tares.

Robert is along this club version...

Even in the first minute my antenna goes up and bristles!

Post by NightBulb.net
Your errors are laid bare, yet you continue to rail. You are in the lake
of fire. You were cast into it with the devil (Religious leadership) and
his angels (religious zealots). You're in it right now, burning. And you
still refuse to cop to it, even though you have shown you can't even
place writing or fulfillment of prophecy in the right millennium.
Shameless. Just shameless.
To anyone else calling themselves a follower of Jesus, use your brain
and do the math, and see the horrible error Dr. Woo made here. See how
craftily he twists scripture to deny that Jesus rose from the dead.

There is nothing I can say that Robert won't criticize because he is
diametrically opposed to everything I say, regardless of any truth.

So, good luck! :-).

If truth is not formed in his image, then it can go jump off a cliff
with the pigs! :-).

Post by NightBulb.net
Dr. Woo, I now know for a truth that you do not believe in the
resurrection. You believe in something else that is from Church
tradition. Are any of the resident atheists in this newsgroup your Roman
sock-puppets?

He'll never admit it and would conveniently forget, but I remember he
wrote once, Jesus is not God, quite a long time ago now, but AFTER he
was supposedly 'born again'.

Robert is a novelty, really, used by the Lord as an antagonist. I don't
lose any sleep about what he has to say; I never have.

Post by NightBulb.net
Here is the truth of God's word. The 'lake of fire' is not a place. The
lake of fire is a prophetic time period and spiritual condition of
mankind in which the nations are swallowed up in God's wrath, devoid of
sense or reason, wreaking havoc on themselves and each other, because
they rejected Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. The nations are in
that lake of fire, now, today, and we are all in this age when no man
can work because the light has fled. But the age is nearing its end,
because all over cyberspace, if you are looking, you will find true
believers who are exposing the lies of Satan's Church system. For the
first time in fifteen centuries, millions of people are seeing and
hearing the Christian religion for what it truly is: The religious wing
of the kingdom of the Devil, appearing as an angel of light.

I don't see millions of people seeing that, but I don't get out much so
I don't see much. :-). Where I am, all I see is people generally just
don't give a damn. They are more interested in a new mobile phone or
partying on a holiday, and even when there isn't a holiday.

However, I don't know anything anyway and I am content to know nothing;
the Lord reminded me of that today. Each day is a new day, and
yesterday's manna is gone and passed.

Post by NightBulb.net
The day is coming, when Jehovah will be done chastising and punishing
mankind in their own corruption and blindness, when he will open their
eyes, heal their insanity, and conform them all, every last one of them,
every nation, kindred, tongue, and people, into the image of His Only
Begotten Son, raise them all from the dead, and grant them the
undeserved gift of eternal life. No amount of preaching hellfire can
stall the day of this great miracle that God will perform.

Bring it on. Isn't it funny how they, ***as sinners***, no less, seek
to condemn other sinners to everlasting punishment, and yet here you are
offering those condemning assholes grace!

I am still meditating on the difference between those who love God and
those who don't. All I know is that it will seriously matter on
everyone's death. I think it has something to do with majesty, being in
the royal family or not. The Lord is keeping me at bay with this at the
moment, for good reason, I am sure.

Today, something else. I asked the Lord what advantage is there in
loving you and not loving you when we all die if all are saved? And He
said something unexpected (no surprise there), "You have your reward,
here and now, you love Me."

I pondered on that for a while and saw myself in green pastures and
still waters, and then I understood. A spiritual "feeling" is hard to
describe but there is nowhere else I'd rather be.

Another thing was "animals". Again reminded, every animal's life is
preserved. God does not create life to lose it; not even a sparrow.

God is not a loser, He's a winner! :-).

And then these verses came to mind...

Rom 8:20  For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly,
but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
Rom 8:21  Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the
bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

You see that, "hope", "delivered", into "liberty".

When you see an animal being killed by a lion, for instance, that animal
struggles for life in hope!

Just a side thang.

Post by NightBulb.net
Not a single one of them will be able to boast that they earned it, or
escaped death by their own deeds.

Amen!

Post by NightBulb.net
All eyes will be on Jesus forevermore;

And a few now. :-).

If one loves the Lord, then forever has been established here and now.

Post by NightBulb.net
the author and finisher of the Creation of God. God will dwell with his
people and all heaven and earth will celebrate life of endless duration
for all ages without end.

As I often hear lately, sooner than you think, longer than you want. :-).

Post by NightBulb.net
This is the good news. You are all going to be resurrected when this
long drama is done. The best of you, the worst of you, have nothing to
boast about except the deeds of Jesus Christ. Your sin is not strong
enough to separate you from the love of God. The lies of the Christian
religion about hellfire are not strong enough to separate you from the
love of God.
"For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor
principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor
height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us
from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

And a bloody big Aussie amen to that!

That's big! :-).

I am going to send this off as is. It's Friday night here and my wife
and I have a couple of wines on a Friday night. :-). Of course, Robbo
will condemn me as a drunk, and I would expect nothing less from such a
holy self-righteous sinner! :-)))))))))))

Praise the Lord.




Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better than what makes it heaven."

[NightBulb.net]

Post by Michael McLean

Post by NightBulb.net
This is the good news. You are all going to be resurrected when this
long drama is done. The best of you, the worst of you, have nothing to
boast about except the deeds of Jesus Christ. Your sin is not strong
enough to separate you from the love of God. The lies of the Christian
religion about hellfire are not strong enough to separate you from the
love of God.
"For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor
principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to
separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

And a bloody big Aussie amen to that!
That's big!  😄.
I am going to send this off as is.  It's Friday night here and my wife
and I have a couple of wines on a Friday night.  😄.  Of course, Robbo
will condemn me as a drunk, and I would expect nothing less from such a
holy self-righteous sinner!  :-)))))))))))

As is, is ok, Oz. I am going to get my sippy cup. I've had a bottle of
German magic spice juice sitting in the fridge for about two years that
needs some attention.

About ten years ago I found a bunch of expensive booze at a big discount
price, that I've been saving for retirement. I'm going to go look at
them as I nurse my sippy cup and imagine what they will be like in ten
or fifteen more years, and consider who I would like to invite to a
bottoms-up rally with a loaded grill and chicken fryer. With some things
I have a really long time preference ;)

You said some good things here. I'll follow up another day.

[Michael McLean]

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by Michael McLean

Post by NightBulb.net
This is the good news. You are all going to be resurrected when this
long drama is done. The best of you, the worst of you, have nothing
to boast about except the deeds of Jesus Christ. Your sin is not
strong enough to separate you from the love of God. The lies of the
Christian religion about hellfire are not strong enough to separate
you from the love of God.
"For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor
principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to
separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

And a bloody big Aussie amen to that!
That's big!  😄.
I am going to send this off as is.  It's Friday night here and my wife
and I have a couple of wines on a Friday night.  😄.  Of course, Robbo
will condemn me as a drunk, and I would expect nothing less from such
a holy self-righteous sinner!  :-)))))))))))

As is, is ok, Oz. I am going to get my sippy cup. I've had a bottle of
German magic spice juice sitting in the fridge for about two years that
needs some attention.
About ten years ago I found a bunch of expensive booze at a big discount
price, that I've been saving for retirement. I'm going to go look at
them as I nurse my sippy cup and imagine what they will be like in ten
or fifteen more years, and consider who I would like to invite to a
bottoms-up rally with a loaded grill and chicken fryer. With some things
I have a really long time preference ;)
You said some good things here. I'll follow up another day.

Mmmm...a loaded grill.




Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better than what makes it heaven."

[Dr. Who]

once, Jesus is not God, quite a long time ago now, but AFTER he was
supposedly 'born again'.

I never ever said that or anything similar in my entire life.

I have told you that Jesus is not His Heavenly Father. And that his Father is
His God. Which is also spoken in the scriptures.

I am going to send this off as is. It's Friday night here and my wife and I
have a couple of wines on a Friday night. :-). Of course, Robbo will condemn
me as a drunk, and I would expect nothing less from such a holy
self-righteous sinner! :-)))))))))))

One night you were tipsy on the Usenet, had too much to drink that evening.
You said that you were at the in-laws house and did not want to offend them
by not drinking much.

That I commented on in two ways, one that you should not be ashamed of the
Gospel, and two, the drinking in excess is a sin for those that are in
Christ.

As usual, you distort the things I say to you.

[Michael McLean]

Post by Dr. Who

once, Jesus is not God, quite a long time ago now, but AFTER he was
supposedly 'born again'.

I never ever said that or anything similar in my entire life.

It was when you were that ridiculous "Not Pete" meme, and you have just
said it again in another way below.

Post by Dr. Who
I have told you that Jesus is not His Heavenly Father. And that his Father is
His God. Which is also spoken in the scriptures.

The Lord Jesus is God!!!

Isa_9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The
Prince of Peace.

You don't know anything but your own fallen-spirit bible religion way.

As for the rest below; not interested in your bullshit. I haven't been
at the in-laws house for over 10 years. It is too far away and we can't
leave the animals, or, it appears, on-line. :-). They often come see
us, though, and we all eat, drink, and be merry. I hope that helps! :-).

You just can't help yourself, mercilessly pummeling Usenet with your ad
nauseam, powerless, self-righteous, sickening Sunday wanking! I am free
and free indeed, Bubba Bible Bob, and you are not.

Covet all you want. Freedom is not for you, it is only for the royal
family. You made your choice.

Now, get to your ass to church and don't slip up by saying something
they consider inappropriate in their fucked up sinner religious state!
Remain kneeled before them, slave; study, strive, struggle, strain, and
stress to try to be what you say you are.

You were warned. God is not mocked.



Mike

Post by Dr. Who

I am going to send this off as is. It's Friday night here and my wife and I
have a couple of wines on a Friday night. :-). Of course, Robbo will condemn
me as a drunk, and I would expect nothing less from such a holy
self-righteous sinner! :-)))))))))))

One night you were tipsy on the Usenet, had too much to drink that evening.
You said that you were at the in-laws house and did not want to offend them
by not drinking much.
That I commented on in two ways, one that you should not be ashamed of the
Gospel, and two, the drinking in excess is a sin for those that are in
Christ.
As usual, you distort the things I say to you.

--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better than what makes it heaven."

[Dr. Who]

Post by Michael McLean

Post by Dr. Who

once, Jesus is not God, quite a long time ago now, but AFTER he was
supposedly 'born again'.

I never ever said that or anything similar in my entire life.

It was when you were that ridiculous "Not Pete" meme, and you have just
said it again in another way below.

Nope, never did and never would.

Post by Michael McLean

Post by Dr. Who
I have told you that Jesus is not His Heavenly Father. And that his Father
is His God. Which is also spoken in the scriptures.

The Lord Jesus is God!!!

Of course he, and always was, and I have explained that from scripture many
times. Especially when arguing with Duke about it.

Jesus is Not his Heavenly Father and his Heavenly Father is His God.

Post by Michael McLean
Isa_9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The
Prince of Peace.
You don't know anything but your own fallen-spirit bible religion way.

It does not say "the Heavenly Father". You assume way, way too much.

The everlasting Father—the Father of eternity; the Planner of the ages; and
Father of all time (Heb 1:2). It does not mean that Jesus the Messiah is the
one known as God, the Father, for He is another person.

Then there is this by Dr. McGee

“The everlasting Father”—Avi–ad, Father of eternity. This simply
means that He is the Creator of all things, even time, the ages, and the
far–off purpose of all things. As John said, “All things were made by
him; and without him was not any thing made that was made” (Joh 1:3). In
Col 1:16 Paul said, “For by him were all things created, that are in
heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be
thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created
by him, and for him.” Then in Heb 1:1-2 we read, “God…. hath in these
last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all
things, by whom also he made the worlds [ages].” The translation of the
Greek word aioµn should be “ages” instead of “worlds,” and that is
the thought in this title of His—Father of eternity.

You are way to busy playing games to take time to study his words.

[Michael McLean]

(snip Robert's fallen world)

This is not for dickhead Robert, because he has been handed over to his
lust...

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before
Abraham was, I am.

...NOT...'Before Abraham was, I was Daddy's boy'.

The Pharisee bullshit artists rule by degrees (pride), but in heaven
there are no degrees! That is why they can't understand Isaiah 9:6.
The only way of knowing is by revelation from above.

If God reveals this to you, then you will be able to begin to grasp
something diametrically opposed and peculiar to human thought...

"No one in heaven is better than what makes it heaven."

"For there is no respect of persons with God."






Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better than what makes it heaven."

[NightBulb.net]

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Post by Dr. Who
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that
forget God.

Yes, and this prophecy has already been fulfilled. All the nations now
are in hell, groping in the darkness brought about by their sins. You
are taking something written about 3000 years ago, and pretending it
hasn't already happened. It began in 66-70 a.d. We are in that age of
fire, where the wrath of God is burning the nations as chaff. It is a
spiritual fire, not a literal flaming BBQ pit where bodies are shoveled.

Again you speak without knowledge 2022- 66 ad is 1956 years ago, not 3000. I
have shown you that before. It also does not fit the timeframes specified in
the Bible. You appear to have no understandings of timeframes and
dispensations.

The Psalms were written centuries before 66 a.d. Most of the Psalms
were written between 1010 and 930 B.C. which dates them at about 3000
years ago, as I said. Go back and do the math again.
So my math is correct and your math is off by a thousand years, and
you are trying to lecture me on timelines. That is quite quaint. Did
you learn this bullshit spew in Catechism? Did the obedient peg boys
of Loyola teach you this nonsense?
I gave the correct timeline. The numbers above, written by me, then
written by you, don't lie.
You gave an incorrect timeline then accused me of having, "no
understandings of timeframes and dispensations." Yet you were off by a
thousand years while I was dead on the money at 3000 years ago.
And there's not much difference qualitatively between two and three
millennia when consider the shroud of history and prophecy. When a
prophecy was fulfilled 2000 years ago, or 1956 years ago, is
immaterial to the huge span of MILLENNIA between then and now.
So the prophecies of the Psalms were written a thousand years before
Christ, and then they were fulfilled by Christ. Except according to
you, a few verses that you cherry-pick, that must happen yet another
2000 years later, to prop up your hellfire myth. You're not getting
away with this lie, buster. You're caught red handed. Either the
prophecies of the psalms were fulfilled in Jesus as they say in the
"And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your
faith is also vain."
By preaching your hellfire myth, you are denying the resurrection of
Jesus Christ which took away death for all men. You are a shifty Roman
Catholic deceiver!
Either Jesus died and took away the sin of the world, and rose from
the dead, as the Psalms prophesied, or else there is nothing but a
hopeless void of Kingsford charcoal for all men, as your Imperial
Roman teachers want men to believe. Both can't be true. The two claims
are mutually exclusive. By claiming to believe in eternal death and
hell, you are denying the power of the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
You are a Christ denier!

Robert Woo doesn't know the Lord Jesus; he hasn't got a clue.
This is the amazing thing: people like him throw people into hell for
their sin and they sin!  Amazing!!!  Unbelievable.
They don't even know what sin is in their self-righteousness.

Post by NightBulb.net
Any reading of the Psalms will show that they are prophecies of the
birth, ministry, struggle, sufferings, and death of Christ Jesus.
Except for a verse or two that you cherry-pick out of context, and
then project forward to 2000 years after Christ, to prop up your myth
that denies the resurrection. I smell a Roman rat!

Protestantism is just Roman Catholicism in disguise; it all comes from
the same tares.

Yup. The Roman whore of Babylon is called 'mother of harlots.' Who are
her children? The other churches. She is their mother and they are her
harlots daughters. Like mother, like daughter.

Post by Michael McLean
Robert is along this club version...
http://youtu.be/ejdYdWnBLWY

Seriously? Just about anyone with "Ministries" tacked on their name is a
grifter seeking profit by popularity.

I take it Duane Sheriff is a word of faith or charismatic magician. His
website says, "We exist to help people grow in Christ." He has a list of
videos on prosperity, something totally foreign to the original
Christian faith as the disciples held all things in common. I didn't
realize I need their help to prosper.

His Church has over a dozen locations. He is following the Roman
Catholic structural model of a mini-pope with authoritarian and economic
control of church tentacles.

Post by Michael McLean
Even in the first minute my antenna goes up and bristles!

Post by NightBulb.net
Your errors are laid bare, yet you continue to rail. You are in the
lake of fire. You were cast into it with the devil (Religious
leadership) and his angels (religious zealots). You're in it right
now, burning. And you still refuse to cop to it, even though you have
shown you can't even place writing or fulfillment of prophecy in the
right millennium.
Shameless. Just shameless.
To anyone else calling themselves a follower of Jesus, use your brain
and do the math, and see the horrible error Dr. Woo made here. See how
craftily he twists scripture to deny that Jesus rose from the dead.

There is nothing I can say that Robert won't criticize because he is
diametrically opposed to everything I say, regardless of any truth.

It seems that once he gets offended he finds fault in everything from
then onward. He has firmly rooted his trust in the flesh, and those
double-ended hooks run deep.

Post by Michael McLean
So, good luck!  :-).
If truth is not formed in his image, then it can go jump off a cliff
with the pigs!  :-).

Yummy. Deviled ham! Let's look for the positive in every situation.

Post by Michael McLean

Post by NightBulb.net
Dr. Woo, I now know for a truth that you do not believe in the
resurrection. You believe in something else that is from Church
tradition. Are any of the resident atheists in this newsgroup your
Roman sock-puppets?

He'll never admit it and would conveniently forget, but I remember he
wrote once, Jesus is not God, quite a long time ago now, but AFTER he
was supposedly 'born again'.
Robert is a novelty, really, used by the Lord as an antagonist.  I don't
lose any sleep about what he has to say; I never have.

So true. And, 'Antagonist' is putting it mildly!

Post by Michael McLean

Post by NightBulb.net
Here is the truth of God's word. The 'lake of fire' is not a place.
The lake of fire is a prophetic time period and spiritual condition of
mankind in which the nations are swallowed up in God's wrath, devoid
of sense or reason, wreaking havoc on themselves and each other,
because they rejected Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. The
nations are in that lake of fire, now, today, and we are all in this
age when no man can work because the light has fled. But the age is
nearing its end, because all over cyberspace, if you are looking, you
will find true believers who are exposing the lies of Satan's Church
system. For the first time in fifteen centuries, millions of people
The religious wing of the kingdom of the Devil, appearing as an angel
of light.

I don't see millions of people seeing that, but I don't get out much so
I don't see much.  :-).  Where I am, all I see is people generally just
don't give a damn. They are more interested in a new mobile phone or
partying on a holiday, and even when there isn't a holiday.

They are all over Youtube, social media, and blogs nowadays. Strangely
since big tech improved its censorship model, it is hard to find them
with searches. For a short time they were easy to find and many of them
had massive followings and views. Now you have to dig.

There are many people preaching against the wickedness of the Church and
the Christian religion, the international occult government cartel, and
the general hypocrisy of it all. Uncountable numbers of people in the
comments sections show agreement as they relate their own criticisms of
the Pharisees. I meet people often here in the USA who 'get it.' They
know that religion is bullshit, and their attitude is to just wait on God.

With billions of people in the world, it is still a small fraction of a
percent, but it is far more than at any other time in history that I
know of. Besides, God's army doesn't need big numbers to affect sea
change. They just need to speak and blow their trumpets.

Post by Michael McLean
However, I don't know anything anyway and I am content to know nothing;
the Lord reminded me of that today.  Each day is a new day, and
yesterday's manna is gone and passed.

Very keen observation. "Give us this day our daily bread." Meanwhile
religion promises an entire bread truck full of Wonder Bread, which is
good for rotting your teeth.

Post by Michael McLean

Post by NightBulb.net
The day is coming, when Jehovah will be done chastising and punishing
mankind in their own corruption and blindness, when he will open their
eyes, heal their insanity, and conform them all, every last one of
them, every nation, kindred, tongue, and people, into the image of His
Only Begotten Son, raise them all from the dead, and grant them the
undeserved gift of eternal life. No amount of preaching hellfire can
stall the day of this great miracle that God will perform.

Bring it on.  Isn't it funny how they, ***as sinners***, no less, seek
to condemn other sinners to everlasting punishment, and yet here you are
offering those condemning assholes grace!

God is in control. He can harden hearts or soften them as he sees fit.
Everything is working together for His ultimate good. These religious
people refuse to admit that they are sinners. They have their escape
clauses that elevate them above others to transform themselves into holy
dispensaries of vital truth. They all have some song and dance about how
they made the right choices and did the right thing to earn God's grace,
and the rest of us are doomed unless we lick their boots and get with
the program.

Post by Michael McLean
I am still meditating on the difference between those who love God and
those who don't.  All I know is that it will seriously matter on
everyone's death.  I think it has something to do with majesty, being in
the royal family or not.  The Lord is keeping me at bay with this at the
moment, for good reason, I am sure.

I know in small part about this but not enough to talk in depth about it
here. It is way too much for the poor Pharisees to handle. Any esoteric
cogitation of any kind is kindling for the burning stake. If they cry
blasphemy when I say that God is saving all souls, how much more will
they rage over the things that come after?

I can say this in a crude sort of way since I don't completely
understand myself. None of us is actually a completely distinct
individual entity that exists on his own steam. We are dependent on our
mother in the womb and after birth for many years for sustenance and
teaching in how to navigate dangers in the world. We are first connected
to our mothers by their womb, then to our fathers through work, then the
society through schooling. People are connected in several different
ways, as if the whole species is a single organism composed of several
organisms, with psychological, genetic, spiritual, cultural, and
belief-based connections that all operate together in very complex ways.
We are all connected and dependent on each other, and ultimately on the
Creator, but our flesh creates a strong psychological isolation effect
that tries to push us apart, similar to how a case of bottles would keep
the wine inside each bottle separated, although all the wine was made
from one big vine. Interestingly the ancient words 'body' and 'flesh'
have homophones that mean a bag, bottle, or vessel for holding liquid
separately. Body is from 'bodig' which sounds like Teutonic 'botah', a
wine bottle, and flesh sounds like 'flask', similar to Old French and
Latinate, 'flasce', which is also a wine skin. These resonances strike
me as very interesting.

Mankind is like one batch of wine, but separated into separate casks and
cases of bottles, with each cask and bottle being unique, but the
substance inside being all the same substance. In a similar way, Jesus,
the Father, and the Spirit are one, yet expressed with unique and
individual qualities, but of the same root substance. When we are saved,
we become a new vessel with a new kind of wine poured into us--the same
wine as the Father and the Son. It needs a new vessel, since new wine
would leak out of an old wine skin.

We reap what we sow partly because our actions toward each other
reverberate through the consciousness and experience of everyone
affected by them. A man's deeds are stored up in God's knowledge, and
also in the collective knowledge of how each action affects others, and
continues to affect others through them, like a chain reaction, until
eventually the effects come around through other people or through an
act of God.

When the seeds we sow come back to us, or our chickens come home to
roost, we often have no idea how or why, but the Lord knows. In the end,
we will all share a renewed chain of connection that is beyond our
current imagining. I conjecture and believe that this new joining will
be something we can observe in real time as it is happening far and
wide, and it will be constantly and endlessly amazing and grow more
complex and beautiful forever. God can see it now and has been seeing it
from before the beginning, since it all flows out from Himself. He wants
us to love Him so we can share in it. In this way we are his body. He is
building a body for himself to inhabit, one in which he can look into
the mirror and the mirror can look back. I can't think of any better
metaphors right now.

Post by Michael McLean
Today, something else.  I asked the Lord what advantage is there in
loving you and not loving you when we all die if all are saved?  And He
said something unexpected (no surprise there), "You have your reward,
here and now, you love Me."

Anything else we focus our affection on tends to disappoint us unless
God be in it.

Post by Michael McLean
I pondered on that for a while and saw myself in green pastures and
still waters, and then I understood. A spiritual "feeling" is hard to
describe but there is nowhere else I'd rather be.
Another thing was "animals".  Again reminded, every animal's life is
preserved.  God does not create life to lose it; not even a sparrow.

He showed me this with cats of all creatures. Feral cats, no less. They
have a very complex social order, and they know how to integrate into
social order with other animals, including dogs, raccoons, possums,
chickens, and people. Cats and dogs are very special creatures, made for
us, and I have no doubt they will live in the hereafter. Whatever form
they take in an immortal world is probably going to be spellbinding and
much cooler than just the warm fuzzy factor of this life. Since all
consciousness and intelligence comes from God and is his gift, he can
raise it up.

Post by Michael McLean
God is not a loser, He's a winner!  :-).

The real Jesus is bigger than religion gives him credit for. The
Christians seem to think the devil is a giga-chad sigma male that ends
up owning 99.9% of God's creations in the end. Jesus already defeated
the devil. The devil just hasn't copped to it yet.

Post by Michael McLean
And then these verses came to mind...
Rom 8:20  For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly,
but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
Rom 8:21  Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the
bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
You see that, "hope", "delivered", into "liberty".
When you see an animal being killed by a lion, for instance, that animal
struggles for life in hope!

And often it pays off. More often than not a lion's prey escapes. I was
ravaged by some spiritual lions and came out with some scratches. Now
the lions can't even catch me.

Post by Michael McLean
Just a side thang.

Post by NightBulb.net
Not a single one of them will be able to boast that they earned it, or
escaped death by their own deeds.

Amen!

Post by NightBulb.net
All eyes will be on Jesus forevermore;

And a few now.  :-).
If one loves the Lord, then forever has been established here and now.

I told a Christian something similar to this once, and it came as a
shock to him, then he got it, had a moment of realization of what I
meant. He asked me if I knew for sure if I was going to heaven. I said
that Jesus already saved me almost 2000 years ago and I am seated in a
heavenly place now, so I'm not worried about hell or any kind of punishment.

Post by Michael McLean

Post by NightBulb.net
the author and finisher of the Creation of God. God will dwell with
his people and all heaven and earth will celebrate life of endless
duration for all ages without end.

As I often hear lately, sooner than you think, longer than you want.  :-).

Yesterday would be nice.

Post by Michael McLean

Post by NightBulb.net
This is the good news. You are all going to be resurrected when this
long drama is done. The best of you, the worst of you, have nothing to
boast about except the deeds of Jesus Christ. Your sin is not strong
enough to separate you from the love of God. The lies of the Christian
religion about hellfire are not strong enough to separate you from the
love of God.
"For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor
principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to
separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

And a bloody big Aussie amen to that!
That's big!  :-).
I am going to send this off as is.  It's Friday night here and my wife
and I have a couple of wines on a Friday night.  :-).  Of course, Robbo
will condemn me as a drunk, and I would expect nothing less from such a
holy self-righteous sinner!  :-)))))))))))

They called Jesus a 'wine-bibber.' At the last supper, it appears that
wine was so precious to him he promised to deny himself any wine until
after his victory, to show his commitment to his disciples:

"But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the
vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom."

This shows that wine was important to him. Jesus didn't make weak token
efforts. It is the symbol of his blood. If anyone accuses you of being a
wine-bibber out of spite, let them burn in their own angst.

As for me and my house, we will drink Jesus juice in anticipation of the
great feast of praise to the Lord. ;)

[Michael McLean]

Post by Dr. Who

Yet men tricked themselves into thinking it all meant what they thought it
should mean. Then the Apostles came along and clarified the Old Testament
with the New Testament, and re-confirmed what the symbols all mean. God
promises 'manna from heaven' and men think, 'cake from oven.' God promises
'eternal life' and Pharisees warn of 'eternal death' and call that a gospel.
Right away proud men re-defined everything into religious nonsense. We have
2000 years of errors compounded upon errors, and hardly anyone seems to think
about that.

Deu 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest
hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the
foundations of the mountains.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that
forget God.
Isa 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without
measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that
rejoiceth, shall descend into it.
Thus saith the Word of God by the prophets over the words of the lost men
Jesus likewise spoke saying,...
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without
a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his
brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say,
Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and castit from thee: it
is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two
eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the
damnation of hell?
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never
Do not believe the grievous errors of the person to whom I am replying.

You're the grievous error around here, and have been for a long, long time.





Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better than what makes it heaven."

[Attila]

On Fri, 2 Dec 2022 16:40:05 +1100, Michael McLean

Post by Michael McLean

Post by Dr. Who

Yet men tricked themselves into thinking it all meant what they thought it
should mean. Then the Apostles came along and clarified the Old Testament
with the New Testament, and re-confirmed what the symbols all mean. God
promises 'manna from heaven' and men think, 'cake from oven.' God promises
'eternal life' and Pharisees warn of 'eternal death' and call that a gospel.
Right away proud men re-defined everything into religious nonsense. We have
2000 years of errors compounded upon errors, and hardly anyone seems to think
about that.

Deu 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest
hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the
foundations of the mountains.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that
forget God.
Isa 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without
measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that
rejoiceth, shall descend into it.
Thus saith the Word of God by the prophets over the words of the lost men
Jesus likewise spoke saying,...
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without
a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his
brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say,
Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and castit from thee: it
is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two
eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the
damnation of hell?
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never
Do not believe the grievous errors of the person to whom I am replying.

You're the grievous error around here, and have been for a long, long time.
Mike

This entire subject and the posts made about it are nothing
more than wild ass guesses based mostly on fear of the
unknown (death) and arrogance based upon an opinion that
each one thinks he is so special he cannot possibly just
stop at some point with nothing remaining. He must keep
going somewhere.

Not to mention there is no supporting evidence that the
entire subject has any actual existence, none of the books
written about it has any verified fact beyond a few actual
persons, locations and events that do nothing to validate
the mystical portion of the superstitions involved. Gone
With the Wind makes an equally accurate historical account
of the civil war.

To cap it off the first group involved is established for
those who have no interest in any of your silly
superstitions and could not care less about any of your
individual or collective gods.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats.

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Stop the Green Raw Deal!

I dare call it treason.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

I don't know how Baghdad Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights? Can New York be far behind?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

[Michael McLean]

Post by Attila
On Fri, 2 Dec 2022 16:40:05 +1100, Michael McLean

Post by Michael McLean

Post by Dr. Who

Yet men tricked themselves into thinking it all meant what they thought it
should mean. Then the Apostles came along and clarified the Old Testament
with the New Testament, and re-confirmed what the symbols all mean. God
promises 'manna from heaven' and men think, 'cake from oven.' God promises
'eternal life' and Pharisees warn of 'eternal death' and call that a gospel.
Right away proud men re-defined everything into religious nonsense. We have
2000 years of errors compounded upon errors, and hardly anyone seems to think
about that.

Deu 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest
hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the
foundations of the mountains.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that
forget God.
Isa 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without
measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that
rejoiceth, shall descend into it.
Thus saith the Word of God by the prophets over the words of the lost men
Jesus likewise spoke saying,...
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without
a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his
brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say,
Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and castit from thee: it
is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two
eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the
damnation of hell?
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never
Do not believe the grievous errors of the person to whom I am replying.

You're the grievous error around here, and have been for a long, long time.
Mike

This entire subject and the posts made about it are nothing
more than wild ass guesses based mostly on fear of the
unknown (death) and arrogance based upon an opinion that
each one thinks he is so special he cannot possibly just
stop at some point with nothing remaining. He must keep
going somewhere.
Not to mention there is no supporting evidence that the
entire subject has any actual existence, none of the books
written about it has any verified fact beyond a few actual
persons, locations and events that do nothing to validate
the mystical portion of the superstitions involved. Gone
With the Wind makes an equally accurate historical account
of the civil war.
To cap it off the first group involved is established for
those who have no interest in any of your silly
superstitions and could not care less about any of your
individual or collective gods.

So, we should worship your opinion, Tilly? I can't see the glory in
your self-enthronement.

You protest too much!

Go your way and be done with it, then.

Easy.




Mike

PS: Besides, believers don't take advice from ignorant atheists. Would
you take the advice of an infant about life as an 80+ year old? It is
out of your league. Best you stay in your "everything created itself" lane.
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better than what makes it heaven."

[Attila]

On Sat, 3 Dec 2022 08:51:05 +1100, Michael McLean

Post by Michael McLean

Post by Attila
On Fri, 2 Dec 2022 16:40:05 +1100, Michael McLean

Post by Michael McLean

Post by Dr. Who

Yet men tricked themselves into thinking it all meant what they thought it
should mean. Then the Apostles came along and clarified the Old Testament
with the New Testament, and re-confirmed what the symbols all mean. God
promises 'manna from heaven' and men think, 'cake from oven.' God promises
'eternal life' and Pharisees warn of 'eternal death' and call that a gospel.
Right away proud men re-defined everything into religious nonsense. We have
2000 years of errors compounded upon errors, and hardly anyone seems to think
about that.

Deu 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest
hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the
foundations of the mountains.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that
forget God.
Isa 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without
measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that
rejoiceth, shall descend into it.
Thus saith the Word of God by the prophets over the words of the lost men
Jesus likewise spoke saying,...
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without
a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his
brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say,
Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and castit from thee: it
is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two
eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the
damnation of hell?
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never
Do not believe the grievous errors of the person to whom I am replying.

You're the grievous error around here, and have been for a long, long time.
Mike

This entire subject and the posts made about it are nothing
more than wild ass guesses based mostly on fear of the
unknown (death) and arrogance based upon an opinion that
each one thinks he is so special he cannot possibly just
stop at some point with nothing remaining. He must keep
going somewhere.
Not to mention there is no supporting evidence that the
entire subject has any actual existence, none of the books
written about it has any verified fact beyond a few actual
persons, locations and events that do nothing to validate
the mystical portion of the superstitions involved. Gone
With the Wind makes an equally accurate historical account
of the civil war.
To cap it off the first group involved is established for
those who have no interest in any of your silly
superstitions and could not care less about any of your
individual or collective gods.

So, we should worship your opinion, Tilly? I can't see the glory in
your self-enthronement.

Nope. I can't conceive of any situation in which you would
agree with me about anything but Trolls must be Trolls so
lay it on.

Post by Michael McLean
You protest too much!

I would suggest it is more like a reality check.

Post by Michael McLean
Go your way and be done with it, then.
Easy.

If it is so easy why have you failed to get me to go away in
spite of many attempts?

Post by Michael McLean
Mike
PS: Besides, believers don't take advice from ignorant atheists.

They take advice from no one. They just live in an on-going
circle jerk.

Post by Michael McLean
Would
you take the advice of an infant about life as an 80+ year old?

I would pay attention since obviously it would be an
extraordinarily capable infant.

Post by Michael McLean
It is
out of your league.

Many things are.

Post by Michael McLean
Best you stay in your "everything created itself" lane.

That exists more in Mikieworld than anywhere else.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats.

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Stop the Green Raw Deal!

I dare call it treason.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

I don't know how Baghdad Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights? Can New York be far behind?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

[Michael McLean]

Post by Attila
On Sat, 3 Dec 2022 08:51:05 +1100, Michael McLean

Post by Michael McLean

Post by Attila
On Fri, 2 Dec 2022 16:40:05 +1100, Michael McLean

Post by Michael McLean

Post by Dr. Who

Yet men tricked themselves into thinking it all meant what they thought it
should mean. Then the Apostles came along and clarified the Old Testament
with the New Testament, and re-confirmed what the symbols all mean. God
promises 'manna from heaven' and men think, 'cake from oven.' God promises
'eternal life' and Pharisees warn of 'eternal death' and call that a gospel.
Right away proud men re-defined everything into religious nonsense. We have
2000 years of errors compounded upon errors, and hardly anyone seems to think
about that.

Deu 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest
hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the
foundations of the mountains.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that
forget God.
Isa 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without
measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that
rejoiceth, shall descend into it.
Thus saith the Word of God by the prophets over the words of the lost men
Jesus likewise spoke saying,...
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without
a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his
brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say,
Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and castit from thee: it
is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two
eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the
damnation of hell?
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never
Do not believe the grievous errors of the person to whom I am replying.

You're the grievous error around here, and have been for a long, long time.
Mike

This entire subject and the posts made about it are nothing
more than wild ass guesses based mostly on fear of the
unknown (death) and arrogance based upon an opinion that
each one thinks he is so special he cannot possibly just
stop at some point with nothing remaining. He must keep
going somewhere.
Not to mention there is no supporting evidence that the
entire subject has any actual existence, none of the books
written about it has any verified fact beyond a few actual
persons, locations and events that do nothing to validate
the mystical portion of the superstitions involved. Gone
With the Wind makes an equally accurate historical account
of the civil war.
To cap it off the first group involved is established for
those who have no interest in any of your silly
superstitions and could not care less about any of your
individual or collective gods.

So, we should worship your opinion, Tilly? I can't see the glory in
your self-enthronement.

Nope. I can't conceive of any situation in which you would
agree with me about anything but Trolls must be Trolls so
lay it on.

Post by Michael McLean
You protest too much!

I would suggest it is more like a reality check.

Post by Michael McLean
Go your way and be done with it, then.
Easy.

If it is so easy why have you failed to get me to go away in
spite of many attempts?

Post by Michael McLean
Mike
PS: Besides, believers don't take advice from ignorant atheists.

They take advice from no one. They just live in an on-going
circle jerk.

Post by Michael McLean
Would
you take the advice of an infant about life as an 80+ year old?

I would pay attention since obviously it would be an
extraordinarily capable infant.

Post by Michael McLean
It is
out of your league.

Many things are.

Post by Michael McLean
Best you stay in your "everything created itself" lane.

That exists more in Mikieworld than anywhere else.

Is there meaning in arguing over nothing?

What ya gotta do, my atheist friend, is goin' do whatta ya gotta do!

All for nothing. Easy.

It is dat simple! Now, please, go bang your nothingness, going nowhere,
purposeless drum in ya own conversation and leave us in your wake of glory.

Git along, Cowboy.

Thank you.




Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better than what makes it heaven."

[Attila]

On Sat, 3 Dec 2022 09:35:16 +1100, Michael McLean

Post by Michael McLean

Post by Attila
On Sat, 3 Dec 2022 08:51:05 +1100, Michael McLean

Post by Michael McLean

Post by Attila
On Fri, 2 Dec 2022 16:40:05 +1100, Michael McLean

Post by Michael McLean

Post by Dr. Who

Yet men tricked themselves into thinking it all meant what they thought it
should mean. Then the Apostles came along and clarified the Old Testament
with the New Testament, and re-confirmed what the symbols all mean. God
promises 'manna from heaven' and men think, 'cake from oven.' God promises
'eternal life' and Pharisees warn of 'eternal death' and call that a gospel.
Right away proud men re-defined everything into religious nonsense. We have
2000 years of errors compounded upon errors, and hardly anyone seems to think
about that.

Deu 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest
hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the
foundations of the mountains.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that
forget God.
Isa 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without
measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that
rejoiceth, shall descend into it.
Thus saith the Word of God by the prophets over the words of the lost men
Jesus likewise spoke saying,...
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without
a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his
brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say,
Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and castit from thee: it
is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two
eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the
damnation of hell?
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never
Do not believe the grievous errors of the person to whom I am replying.

You're the grievous error around here, and have been for a long, long time.
Mike

This entire subject and the posts made about it are nothing
more than wild ass guesses based mostly on fear of the
unknown (death) and arrogance based upon an opinion that
each one thinks he is so special he cannot possibly just
stop at some point with nothing remaining. He must keep
going somewhere.
Not to mention there is no supporting evidence that the
entire subject has any actual existence, none of the books
written about it has any verified fact beyond a few actual
persons, locations and events that do nothing to validate
the mystical portion of the superstitions involved. Gone
With the Wind makes an equally accurate historical account
of the civil war.
To cap it off the first group involved is established for
those who have no interest in any of your silly
superstitions and could not care less about any of your
individual or collective gods.

So, we should worship your opinion, Tilly? I can't see the glory in
your self-enthronement.

Nope. I can't conceive of any situation in which you would
agree with me about anything but Trolls must be Trolls so
lay it on.

Post by Michael McLean
You protest too much!

I would suggest it is more like a reality check.

Post by Michael McLean
Go your way and be done with it, then.
Easy.

If it is so easy why have you failed to get me to go away in
spite of many attempts?

Post by Michael McLean
Mike
PS: Besides, believers don't take advice from ignorant atheists.

They take advice from no one. They just live in an on-going
circle jerk.

Post by Michael McLean
Would
you take the advice of an infant about life as an 80+ year old?

I would pay attention since obviously it would be an
extraordinarily capable infant.

Post by Michael McLean
It is
out of your league.

Many things are.

Post by Michael McLean
Best you stay in your "everything created itself" lane.

That exists more in Mikieworld than anywhere else.

Is there meaning in arguing over nothing?

Pointing out facts is not arguing.

Post by Michael McLean
What ya gotta do, my atheist friend, is goin' do whatta ya gotta do!
All for nothing. Easy.
It is dat simple! Now, please, go bang your nothingness, going nowhere,
purposeless drum in ya own conversation and leave us in your wake of glory.
Git along, Cowboy.

I see a Troll's got to do what a Troll's got to do. It must
be getting a bit warm in the great lonesome Outback.

Post by Michael McLean
Thank you.

For what? Noticing your existence? I would do the same for
a termite.

Post by Michael McLean
Mike

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats.

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Stop the Green Raw Deal!

I dare call it treason.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

I don't know how Baghdad Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights? Can New York be far behind?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

[Michael McLean]

Post by Attila
On Sat, 3 Dec 2022 09:35:16 +1100, Michael McLean

Post by Michael McLean

Post by Attila
On Sat, 3 Dec 2022 08:51:05 +1100, Michael McLean

Post by Michael McLean

Post by Attila
On Fri, 2 Dec 2022 16:40:05 +1100, Michael McLean

Post by Michael McLean

Post by Dr. Who

Yet men tricked themselves into thinking it all meant what they thought it
should mean. Then the Apostles came along and clarified the Old Testament
with the New Testament, and re-confirmed what the symbols all mean. God
promises 'manna from heaven' and men think, 'cake from oven.' God promises
'eternal life' and Pharisees warn of 'eternal death' and call that a gospel.
Right away proud men re-defined everything into religious nonsense. We have
2000 years of errors compounded upon errors, and hardly anyone seems to think
about that.

Deu 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest
hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the
foundations of the mountains.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that
forget God.
Isa 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without
measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that
rejoiceth, shall descend into it.
Thus saith the Word of God by the prophets over the words of the lost men
Jesus likewise spoke saying,...
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without
a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his
brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say,
Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and castit from thee: it
is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two
eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the
damnation of hell?
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never
Do not believe the grievous errors of the person to whom I am replying.

You're the grievous error around here, and have been for a long, long time.
Mike

This entire subject and the posts made about it are nothing
more than wild ass guesses based mostly on fear of the
unknown (death) and arrogance based upon an opinion that
each one thinks he is so special he cannot possibly just
stop at some point with nothing remaining. He must keep
going somewhere.
Not to mention there is no supporting evidence that the
entire subject has any actual existence, none of the books
written about it has any verified fact beyond a few actual
persons, locations and events that do nothing to validate
the mystical portion of the superstitions involved. Gone
With the Wind makes an equally accurate historical account
of the civil war.
To cap it off the first group involved is established for
those who have no interest in any of your silly
superstitions and could not care less about any of your
individual or collective gods.

So, we should worship your opinion, Tilly? I can't see the glory in
your self-enthronement.

Nope. I can't conceive of any situation in which you would
agree with me about anything but Trolls must be Trolls so
lay it on.

Post by Michael McLean
You protest too much!

I would suggest it is more like a reality check.

Post by Michael McLean
Go your way and be done with it, then.
Easy.

If it is so easy why have you failed to get me to go away in
spite of many attempts?

Post by Michael McLean
Mike
PS: Besides, believers don't take advice from ignorant atheists.

They take advice from no one. They just live in an on-going
circle jerk.

Post by Michael McLean
Would
you take the advice of an infant about life as an 80+ year old?

I would pay attention since obviously it would be an
extraordinarily capable infant.

Post by Michael McLean
It is
out of your league.

Many things are.

Post by Michael McLean
Best you stay in your "everything created itself" lane.

That exists more in Mikieworld than anywhere else.

Is there meaning in arguing over nothing?

Pointing out facts is not arguing.

Post by Michael McLean
What ya gotta do, my atheist friend, is goin' do whatta ya gotta do!
All for nothing. Easy.
It is dat simple! Now, please, go bang your nothingness, going nowhere,
purposeless drum in ya own conversation and leave us in your wake of glory.
Git along, Cowboy.

I see a Troll's got to do what a Troll's got to do. It must
be getting a bit warm in the great lonesome Outback.

Post by Michael McLean
Thank you.

For what? Noticing your existence? I would do the same for
a termite.

Go and be a real atheist, Attila, and not a worried one.

Breathe...everything created itself...exhale...and...repeat.

Peace.

Yeehaa.




Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better than what makes it heaven."

[Attila]

On Sat, 3 Dec 2022 09:58:06 +1100, Michael McLean

Post by Michael McLean

Post by Attila

Post by Michael McLean
What ya gotta do, my atheist friend, is goin' do whatta ya gotta do!
All for nothing. Easy.
It is dat simple! Now, please, go bang your nothingness, going nowhere,
purposeless drum in ya own conversation and leave us in your wake of glory.
Git along, Cowboy.

I see a Troll's got to do what a Troll's got to do. It must
be getting a bit warm in the great lonesome Outback.

Post by Michael McLean
Thank you.

For what? Noticing your existence? I would do the same for
a termite.

Go and be a real atheist, Attila, and not a worried one.

What? Me worried?

Post by Michael McLean
Breathe...everything created itself...exhale...and...repeat.
Peace.
Yeehaa.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats.

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Stop the Green Raw Deal!

I dare call it treason.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

I don't know how Baghdad Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights? Can New York be far behind?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

[Michael McLean]

Post by Attila
On Sat, 3 Dec 2022 09:58:06 +1100, Michael McLean

Post by Michael McLean

Post by Attila

Post by Michael McLean
What ya gotta do, my atheist friend, is goin' do whatta ya gotta do!
All for nothing. Easy.
It is dat simple! Now, please, go bang your nothingness, going nowhere,
purposeless drum in ya own conversation and leave us in your wake of glory.
Git along, Cowboy.

I see a Troll's got to do what a Troll's got to do. It must
be getting a bit warm in the great lonesome Outback.

Post by Michael McLean
Thank you.

For what? Noticing your existence? I would do the same for
a termite.

Go and be a real atheist, Attila, and not a worried one.

What? Me worried?

Good, then don't worry about other people's opinions or trying to pull
theirs down. Go and enjoy your own.

I am glad that has been settled by your unworried personage.

Tick tock.





Mike

Post by Attila

Post by Michael McLean
Breathe...everything created itself...exhale...and...repeat.
Peace.
Yeehaa.

--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better than what makes it heaven."

[Dr. Who]

Post by NightBulb.net

Post by David Dalton
Your ultra long signature makes your posts appear to be
long, which I think makes it less likely that a prospective
reader would open them and read them.

More's the pity. Perhaps you don't truly know that size matters,
especially when comparing signature sizes. Because I have seen this
complaint raised in newsgroups before I shall treat the subject at some
length and girth of reasoning.

LOL. Length and girth is right, fatboy. But you are
remarkably reason-free.

Post by NightBulb.net
The conclusions and propositions herein
elucidated may be hard to swallow.

We already know MX posts his 100-line screed because he's
a flamboyant attention whore, and because he lives to
annoy others. It's no kinder to the reader to post the
same self-congratulatory fluff in the body of your
message.
We do note your campaign to out-buffoon your fellow
buffoon.
<snip reams of longwinded look-at-meing, defeating
follow-up chicanery along the way>

I would tell you to eat a dog turd but I can not condone cannibalism.
Did you find a sniff of your atheist creator in the cosmic fart bang?
You are like an anal ouroboros. You keep eating your own black hole forever.

You just confirmed my suspicions.

[NightBulb.net]

<snip>

Post by Dr. Who

I would tell you to eat a dog turd but I can not condone cannibalism.
Did you find a sniff of your atheist creator in the cosmic fart bang?
You are like an anal ouroboros. You keep eating your own black hole forever.

You just confirmed my suspicions.

Woo hoo, big reveal, Holy Horizontal Puritan. Burned any witches lately?

[David Dalton]

Post by Michael McLean
Those who love God with all their heart, soul, and mind, and those who
don't.

But some who profess to love God do not seem to love all
other humans, members of other species, and the
environment, and think that even if that is is the case
that by professing to love God (but not loving His
creation) they will automatically be saved, which is
not the case. They have some work to do.

[Michael McLean]

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean
Those who love God with all their heart, soul, and mind, and those who
don't.

But some who profess to love God do not seem to love all
other humans, members of other species, and the
environment, and think that even if that is is the case
that by professing to love God (but not loving His
creation) they will automatically be saved, which is
not the case. They have some work to do.

You are not God.
Thanks.




Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven."

[David Dalton]

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean
Those who love God with all their heart, soul, and mind, and those who
don't.

But some who profess to love God do not seem to love all
other humans, members of other species, and the
environment, and think that even if that is is the case
that by professing to love God (but not loving His
creation) they will automatically be saved, which is
not the case. They have some work to do.

You are not God.

No, I am not God, but I am the latest avatar type, and do
have a global region. However it is no longer clear that
there will be a Selective Cull and Possibility of Extinction,
so I can’t say that I come with a sword.

[NightBulb.net]

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean

Post by David Dalton

Post by Michael McLean
Those who love God with all their heart, soul, and mind, and those who
don't.

But some who profess to love God do not seem to love all
other humans, members of other species, and the
environment, and think that even if that is is the case
that by professing to love God (but not loving His
creation) they will automatically be saved, which is
not the case. They have some work to do.

You are not God.

No, I am not God, but I am the latest avatar type, and do
have a global region. However it is no longer clear that
there will be a Selective Cull and Possibility of Extinction,
so I can’t say that I come with a sword.

I read your Holey Avatar doctrine on sexual promiscuity.

You are correct when you say you don't come with a sword in hand.
Instead, you come with a dildo in hand.

The word of the Holey Avatar David Dalton is a two-ended dildo, dividing
asunder unmentionable orifices.

[David Dalton]

Post by Michael McLean
Those who love God with all their heart, soul, and mind, and those who
don't.

You mean there are bootlickers and those who do not.