Jesus did not become our sin. He was made our sin offering.

Michael McLean

2022-12-22 22:15:04 UTC

The body of Jesus did not see corruption. He went to hell and the
depths of
hell, as he bore all the sins of mankind and became sin.

The Lord Jesus never "became sin", you foul gargoyle of hell and
smelly stuff.

Jesus was a sweet scent of sacrifice, not a smelly, sinful one. God was
pleased with the sweet aroma of the perfect sin offering at the cross.
It pleased God to sacrifice his Son. Under the law the sin offering is,
"most holy."

"Most holy" indeed!

Robert et al. are trying to be spiritual and don't know what they are
saying. In other words, he is wanking. Even when they sacrificed a
prize lamb from the herd, it did not become a mangy scumbag one.

It also shows he doesn't love the Lord.

It is interesting that churches teach that Jesus was metaphysically
transmogrified into something accursed and forsaken by the Father. Any
reference to this is only metaphorical from man's point of view and
embellished by church tradition to become a chimerical lie.

The more I see these bastards, the more pissed off I become.

But I suppose they don't know any different.

The lamb is unblemished. That means there is no spot (sin) in it.
Therefore being without blemish it cannot be cursed or sinful. It can
atone for that which is cursed and sinful. That's all Paul means by, "be
"For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might
be made the righteousness of God in him."

He has always been sinless, is sinless, and will always be sinless.

They don't love Him.

They interpret this as "substitutionary atonement" when actually it is
referring to sacrificial atonement. God the Father sacrificed Jesus for
us. He did not substitute Jesus for us. He did not convict Jesus of sin,
and punish Jesus as a sinner, as the "substituionary atonement" doctrine
would imply. Jesus wasn't being punished. He was being sacrificed.

That's right.

When the priests killed a sheep or bull on the altar they weren't
punishing the sheep or bull. The sheep or bull wasn't being transformed
into a "substitute sinner." They were sacrificing it. The whole point of
sacrifice is to do away with crime and punishment, not to vent God's
spleen on some helpless creature.

That's right. They don't know Him.

Jesus was made our sin offering. He was not made into the sins that we
all have done. Our sin could not blemish Him. Not even the scent of sin
could stick to him. He was the most holy sacrifice of all.
Jesus was not forsaken by God at the cross. He was forsaken by man. He
was not transmogrified into the archetypal sinner and punished on our
behalf. He was accounted a sinner by sinful man. He was sacrificed for
us to fulfill the whole end of the law, because it pleased the Father.

"My God, my God, why..."

The Lord revealed to me what that means, "Of Me, of Me, is My
suffering," fully realized, fully fulfilled.

There has been an insidious, satanic, hopeless plot right throughout
time to separate the Father and the Son, but they are One and the Same.

When Jesus was taken out into the wilderness, what do you think Satan
was trying to do?

For example...

Mat 4:5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth
him on a pinnacle of the temple,
Mat 4:6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself
down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning
thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou
dash thy foot against a stone.

Mat 4:7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt
the Lord thy God.

Tempt Him to what?

Separate.

Satan is trying to separate the Father and the Son, but he couldn't
because they are One God. I know, it is a bit of a mind bender for
many, nevertheless!

"Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord."

In the minds of men, how can a son be his own father? Yet we don't have
any problem with a chicken coming from an egg which came from a chicken?
:-).

God did not reject Jesus on the cross. God accepted him. If the Father
had rejected Jesus, the sacrifice would have made no atonement, and all
mankind would be lost in their sins. The popular myth that God rejected
Jesus and cursed him and poured out endless wrath on him in a rejected
state is really a slander against the holy blood of Jesus shed for us.

Indeed.

The father was sacrificing the most beautiful and valuable thing he had
for us--himself in the form of His Son.

Exactly.

God did not reject Jesus on the cross. He did not punish Jesus on the
cross. It was on the cross that God accepted him as a sweet-smelling,
sinless sacrifice.
I think it is appropriate that you called Robert, "smelly". I can smell
him through this wire. Me thinketh he stinketh.

Yes, Robert stinks to high heaven! However, he knows not what he does
and what's worse, he thinks he smells like Channel No. 19 - my wife's
perfume, and a treat for Christmas. It pleases her. :-). That's a
woman for you. I prefer tools. :-).

You will pay for saying that, on top of everything that is happening
to you now, asshole!
You were warned.

I'm sure you probably already know most or all of this, Michael. As I've
said before, I am making a record for those who read further down the
highway of time.

Sure, but I love to hear it. :-). I will always love to hear it, but I
am not you and I am not everything. Speak whatever is in your heart.

Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven."