Discussion:
Jesus Died, Heavenly Father Provided
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Dr. Who
2022-12-07 04:35:01 UTC
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Jesus died and paid the price for the sins on mankind.
He was resurrected to new life, that we can be also.

Because of the work of Jesus, he made it possible that the Heavenly Father
could give us new life via rebirth. Born Again. Whereupon we might be filled
with the Holy Spirit of God and gifted with various and sundry spiritual
gifts as well as ministry gifts that we could spread the word and the Gospel
of the Kingdom to men all around the world, exalting the Glory of God that he
might draw many unto him.

It is God in us, that changes us and enables us to work for him in this
world, all the while we are residents of another world that this world does
not see, nor can it see.

If you say that you Love the Lord with all your heart, body and soul, then
these things you should be doing thus hastening the return of the Lord.

He is not returning for a confused, weak and powerless Body of Christ, he is
coming for the strong.

We are to be a blessing and not a curse to those around us.

We are to bring honor and Glory to the Name of Jesus and to our Heavenly
Father.

The latter rain is coming. You will be either lifted up, or drown according
to the state of your heart.
Michael McLean
2022-12-07 05:45:32 UTC
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Shut up, you are full of bullshit.

The Body of Christ has never been confused, weak, and powerless; you are
talking about your false religious types.

Con merchants pretending to be what they are not!

Obviously they and you haven't studied enough to be approved! Ye
charlatan!





Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven."
teslaStinker
2022-12-10 23:09:32 UTC
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Shut up, you are full of bullshit.The Body of Christ has never been confused, weak, and powerless; you are talking about your false religious types.Con merchants pretending to be what they are not!Obviously they and you haven't studied enough to be approved! Ye charlatan!Mike-- Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were YET sinners, Christ died for us.Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps."To seek your own will is to seek your own glory.""If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything.""What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God.""All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore, sin is not what you do, it is what you are.""Compromise will condemn you.""There are no sinners in Christ Jesus.""My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all.""You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to know that?""The way of truth is the testimony of life.""I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall where God intends.""Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith.""You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we alllive, by faith.""It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me.""Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, lookahead.""You cannot be free with guilt in your heart.""Priority is everything.""The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence.""There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander it or to place it where it truly belongs.""An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie.""Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to an ignorant straw man.""Wait, rest, be still, and know.""No man can wash his own hands!!!""I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say, and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!""The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is.""Man is not the centre of being.""Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature.""And then the Lord said, "I see everything.""Man has no greater idol than his own will.""Where is God hiding? He isn't.""If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them.""You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's willingness to believe.""Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness, and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose.""The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always full of hope.""The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass through it so that you could play God.""A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today.""The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible. Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy. Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven."
You talk like an ass with a invalid satan Bible. The real holy
Bible says nothing of the sort u bozo.
Go backwards some more see where it gets you.... pagan. Your
the one that's not ok.

23 I know, O Lord, that the way of a man is not his: neither is it
in a man to walk, and to direct his steps. 24 Correct me, O
Lord, but yet with judgment: and not in thy fury, lest thou bring
me to nothing. 25 Pour out thy indignation upon the nations that
have not known thee, and upon the provinces that have not called
upon thy name: because they have eaten up Jacob, and devoured
him, and consumed him, and have destroyed his glory.


That's you. Eaten up Jacob with your false Bibles....
--
Daniel
unknown
2022-12-07 15:39:03 UTC
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Post by Dr. Who
Jesus died and paid the price for the sins on mankind.
Who set and recieved the "price"?
Post by Dr. Who
He was resurrected to new life, that we can be also.
Yes, as in Romans, as we rise from baptism we rise like Christ as from the
tomb unto newness of life and unto eternal life.
Post by Dr. Who
Because of the work of Jesus, he made it possible that the Heavenly Father
could give us new life via rebirth. Born Again.
Yes, "born again ... of water and spirit" Christ taught and the apostles
taught is baptism.,ex. the Romans above. and elsewhere.
Post by Dr. Who
Whereupon we might be filled
with the Holy Spirit of God
Yes, we recieve the 3d person,ie. HS as we are baptised Peter taught in
Acts by the laying on of hands.
Post by Dr. Who
and gifted with various and sundry spiritual
gifts as well as ministry gifts that we could spread the word and the Gospel
of the Kingdom to men all around the world, exalting the Glory of God that he
might draw many unto him.
Yes, but Paul teaches not all recieve all the gifts and the miricle of
spontaneous speech in the language of other cultures is the least of them.
unknown
2022-12-07 17:08:04 UTC
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Some suggest the faulty idea that if some term/phrase is not used
explicitly in the NT then any use of them to be a shorthand for some bit of
doctrine negates it. . In recent posts "trinity" as the shorthand label
for the doctrine found in the NT of one God in 3 prsons is said to be
negated.

The 3 persons are spread throughout the NT, sometimes as Father andSon as
in the Col. refering to Christ and His incarnation:
2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

The HS is often spoken of seperately. All 3 are given as seperate persons
present at one event,ie. at the baptism of Christ. Also when Christ speaks
of baptizing in the name of the 3 persons seperately.

So a question, dropping "trinity" as a shorthand for the 3 persons one God,
what term can we adopt to capture that teaching in the NT as a shorthand in
place of "trinity" It is a bit combersome to always say "one God, in three
persons" when a common use of a shorthand term/phrase will serve, no? ?

We could use the "godhead" above but it is of the Father and Son only; but
it has the Hs implicit from the whole of the NT teaching, no?
Dr. Who
2022-12-07 20:18:31 UTC
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Post by unknown
Some suggest the faulty idea that if some term/phrase is not used
explicitly in the NT then any use of them to be a shorthand for some bit of
doctrine negates it. . In recent posts "trinity" as the shorthand label
for the doctrine found in the NT of one God in 3 prsons is said to be
negated.
It was never inferred under any circumstance in the Bible.You would not even
clarify that the Godhead is made up of God the Father, and Christ his first
begotten Son as another. Or whether they be the same being with two hats.
Post by unknown
The 3 persons are spread throughout the NT, sometimes as Father andSon as
2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
No incarnation mentioned. If a mans seed joins up with a woman egg, is that
incarnation?
Post by unknown
The HS is often spoken of seperately. All 3 are given as seperate persons
present at one event,ie. at the baptism of Christ. Also when Christ speaks
of baptizing in the name of the 3 persons seperately.
Yet the Holy Spirit "of" God is clearly his title and spoken of often.
Post by unknown
So a question, dropping "trinity" as a shorthand for the 3 persons one God,
what term can we adopt to capture that teaching in the NT as a shorthand in
place of "trinity" It is a bit combersome to always say "one God, in three
persons" when a common use of a shorthand term/phrase will serve, no? ?
Do what scripture speaks and says. "Godhead". In three persons is likewise
not mentioned there.
Post by unknown
We could use the "godhead" above but it is of the Father and Son only; but
it has the Hs implicit from the whole of the NT teaching, no?
Luk 11:13 (KJV)

13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children:
how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that
ask him?

Joh 14:15-21 (KJV)

15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that
he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth
him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and
shall be in you.

18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because
I live, ye shall live also.

20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in
you.

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me:
and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and
will manifest myself to him.

Interesting, is it not, that the same God who anointed Jesus with the Holy
Spirit, does the same for the individual who believes in God and asks for it?
Jesus had to return first that it might be possible.

Also not that Jesus is our comforter, yet he speaks of "another comforter" in
V16. Then look at V 20 and see who all are "one".
unknown
2022-12-07 20:53:03 UTC
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Ding, ding ding, pass me that winning cigar. The below was setup to
illicit/produce the mumblings, often classic hersies, that change
constantly about the nature of the 3 persons, one God in the NT. And how
well it worked.

Next question, if the 2000 year witness of the church is to be replaced by
those of the past 200 yearsonly, how is one to understand as Christ listed,
the relationship amongFather, Son, HS and of the many mentions of them
seperately in the NT? This should be good, no?
Post by Dr. Who
Post by unknown
Some suggest the faulty idea that if some term/phrase is not used
explicitly in the NT then any use of them to be a shorthand for some bit of
doctrine negates it. . In recent posts "trinity" as the shorthand label
for the doctrine found in the NT of one God in 3 prsons is said to be
negated.
It was never inferred under any circumstance in the Bible.You would not even
clarify that the Godhead is made up of God the Father, and Christ his first
begotten Son as another. Or whether they be the same being with two hats.
Post by unknown
The 3 persons are spread throughout the NT, sometimes as Father andSon as
2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
No incarnation mentioned. If a mans seed joins up with a woman egg, is that
incarnation?
Post by unknown
The HS is often spoken of seperately. All 3 are given as seperate persons
present at one event,ie. at the baptism of Christ. Also when Christ speaks
of baptizing in the name of the 3 persons seperately.
Yet the Holy Spirit "of" God is clearly his title and spoken of often.
Post by unknown
So a question, dropping "trinity" as a shorthand for the 3 persons one God,
what term can we adopt to capture that teaching in the NT as a shorthand in
place of "trinity" It is a bit combersome to always say "one God, in three
persons" when a common use of a shorthand term/phrase will serve, no? ?
Do what scripture speaks and says. "Godhead". In three persons is likewise
not mentioned there.
Post by unknown
We could use the "godhead" above but it is of the Father and Son only; but
it has the Hs implicit from the whole of the NT teaching, no?
Luk 11:13 (KJV)
how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that
ask him?
Joh 14:15-21 (KJV)
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that
he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth
him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and
shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because
I live, ye shall live also.
20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in
you.
and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and
will manifest myself to him.
Interesting, is it not, that the same God who anointed Jesus with the Holy
Spirit, does the same for the individual who believes in God and asks for it?
Jesus had to return first that it might be possible.
Also not that Jesus is our comforter, yet he speaks of "another comforter" in
V16. Then look at V 20 and see who all are "one".
Dr. Who
2022-12-07 22:34:49 UTC
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Ding, ding ding, pass me that winning cigar. The below was setup to
illicit/produce the mumblings, often classic hersies, that change
constantly about the nature of the 3 persons, one God in the NT. And how
well it worked.
Why then was it impossible for you to answer the questions posed to you?
Next question, if the 2000 year witness of the church is to be replaced by
those of the past 200 yearsonly, how is one to understand as Christ listed,
the relationship amongFather, Son, HS and of the many mentions of them
seperately in the NT? This should be good, no?
Answer mine and I will answer yours.
Post by Dr. Who
Post by unknown
Some suggest the faulty idea that if some term/phrase is not used
explicitly in the NT then any use of them to be a shorthand for some
bit of
Post by Dr. Who
Post by unknown
doctrine negates it. . In recent posts "trinity" as the shorthand label
for the doctrine found in the NT of one God in 3 prsons is said to be
negated.
It was never inferred under any circumstance in the Bible.You would not even
clarify that the Godhead is made up of God the Father, and Christ his first
begotten Son as another. Or whether they be the same being with two hats.
Post by unknown
The 3 persons are spread throughout the NT, sometimes as Father andSon as
2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
No incarnation mentioned. If a mans seed joins up with a woman egg, is that
incarnation?
Post by unknown
The HS is often spoken of seperately. All 3 are given as seperate persons
present at one event,ie. at the baptism of Christ. Also when Christ speaks
of baptizing in the name of the 3 persons seperately.
Yet the Holy Spirit "of" God is clearly his title and spoken of often.
Post by unknown
So a question, dropping "trinity" as a shorthand for the 3 persons one God,
what term can we adopt to capture that teaching in the NT as a shorthand in
place of "trinity" It is a bit combersome to always say "one God, in three
persons" when a common use of a shorthand term/phrase will serve, no? ?
Do what scripture speaks and says. "Godhead". In three persons is likewise
not mentioned there.
Post by unknown
We could use the "godhead" above but it is of the Father and Son only; but
it has the Hs implicit from the whole of the NT teaching, no?
Luk 11:13 (KJV)
how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that
ask him?
Joh 14:15-21 (KJV)
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that
he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth
him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and
shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because
I live, ye shall live also.
20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in
you.
and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and
will manifest myself to him.
Interesting, is it not, that the same God who anointed Jesus with the Holy
Spirit, does the same for the individual who believes in God and asks for it?
Jesus had to return first that it might be possible.
Also not that Jesus is our comforter, yet he speaks of "another comforter" in
V16. Then look at V 20 and see who all are "one".
Dr. Who
2022-12-08 02:57:24 UTC
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Ding, ding ding, pass me that winning cigar. The below was setup to
illicit/produce the mumblings, often classic hersies, that change
constantly about the nature of the 3 persons, one God in the NT. And how
well it worked.
Guess what, I am NOT ashamed of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, I am Not
ashamed in any manner regarding King Jesus. I speak boldly regarding my
Saviour and soon coming King Jesus, I also speak boldly regarding the latter
day outpouring of the Holy Spirit of God. I speak boldly because of my
experiential relationship with My Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and I am not
in the least bit intimidated by your mocking of the Holy Spirit of God that
dwells within me. Not By you, MM, or the dark light one.

So you did not win a thing as what I said, I have been saying for all the
time I have been online. I also speak these things freely as they are and
were scriptural. Not the musings of men.

You, OTH, do not have the courage of your convictions and hide behind the
words of men.
unknown
2022-12-09 17:35:40 UTC
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Post by Dr. Who
Ding, ding ding, pass me that winning cigar. The below was setup to
illicit/produce the mumblings, often classic hersies, that change
constantly about the nature of the 3 persons, one God in the NT. And how
well it worked.
Guess what, I am NOT ashamed of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, I am Not
ashamed in any manner regarding King Jesus. I speak boldly regarding my
Saviour and soon coming King Jesus,
So too has every heretic in church history spoken. What we in fact have is
the poster's individual lone ranger religionist wishful take on scripture
and church history. Which take has changed as the wind blows when needed
to maintain a desired image..
Post by Dr. Who
I also speak boldly regarding the latter
day outpouring of the Holy Spirit of God. I speak boldly because of my
experiential relationship with My Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and I am not
in the least bit intimidated by your mocking of the Holy Spirit of God that
Interpretation, I'm really into the modern pentecostal/wof take on
"tongues/prophets" etc.. That includes a lone ranger religionist self
declaration of having a self invented divination method which reveals the
mind of God and the meaning of scripture directly to himself.

Yes you heard correctly, he does not rely on scripture alone as claimed.
He relies on the divination method to tell him 2000 years later what that
scripture *really* means. A neat trick if one can get away with it by self
declaration alone, no?
Dr. Who
2022-12-09 18:29:28 UTC
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Post by Dr. Who
Ding, ding ding, pass me that winning cigar. The below was setup to
illicit/produce the mumblings, often classic hersies, that change
constantly about the nature of the 3 persons, one God in the NT. And how
well it worked.
Guess what, I am NOT ashamed of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, I am Not
ashamed in any manner regarding King Jesus. I speak boldly regarding my
Saviour and soon coming King Jesus,
So too has every heretic in church history spoken. What we in fact have is
the poster's individual lone ranger religionist wishful take on scripture
and church history. Which take has changed as the wind blows when needed
to maintain a desired image..
Post by Dr. Who
I also speak boldly regarding the latter
day outpouring of the Holy Spirit of God. I speak boldly because of my
experiential relationship with My Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and I am not
in the least bit intimidated by your mocking of the Holy Spirit of God that
Interpretation, I'm really into the modern pentecostal/wof take on
"tongues/prophets" etc.. That includes a lone ranger religionist self
declaration of having a self invented divination method which reveals the
mind of God and the meaning of scripture directly to himself.
Yes you heard correctly, he does not rely on scripture alone as claimed.
He relies on the divination method to tell him 2000 years later what that
scripture *really* means. A neat trick if one can get away with it by self
declaration alone, no?
That you chose NOT to believe these scriptures below, is on you. Even if I
were the only one, and I am not, to believe the King Jesus when he spoke
these words, I would not be ashamed nor give them up. The joy there is in an
experiential relationship with him cannot be overstated, even if I have only
realized the very remotest tip of the iceberg. You can mock all you wish, but
it doing so your harden your heart towards the works of God tp your personal
detriment.

The "other comforter" spoken of here by King Jesus, is the Holy Spirit of
God. I hope you can read this with understanding and that your heart is not
so hardened that you refuse to read what God has provided for man.

Joh 14:16-29 (KJV)

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that
he may abide with you for ever;

17 Eventhe Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth
him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and
shall be in you.

18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because
I live, ye shall live also.

20 At that day ye shall know that I amin my Father, and ye in me, and I in
you.

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me:
and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and
will manifest myself to him.

22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt
manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?

23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:
and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode
with him.

24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear
is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yetpresent with you.

26 But the Comforter,which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my
name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your
remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth,
give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come againunto you. If
ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my
Father is greater than I.

29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to
pass, ye might believe.
Dr. Who
2022-12-07 19:56:02 UTC
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Post by unknown
Post by Dr. Who
Jesus died and paid the price for the sins on mankind.
Who set and recieved the "price"?
All sin, and the Heavenly Father accepted the "price".
Post by unknown
Post by Dr. Who
He was resurrected to new life, that we can be also.
Yes, as in Romans, as we rise from baptism we rise like Christ as from the
tomb unto newness of life and unto eternal life.
Baptism is just a symbol of it, Jesus is the resurrector.
Post by unknown
Post by Dr. Who
Because of the work of Jesus, he made it possible that the Heavenly Father
could give us new life via rebirth. Born Again.
Yes, "born again ... of water and spirit" Christ taught and the apostles
taught is baptism.,ex. the Romans above. and elsewhere.
That is a false and flagrant doctrine of men.
Post by unknown
Post by Dr. Who
Whereupon we might be filled
with the Holy Spirit of God
Yes, we recieve the 3d person,ie. HS as we are baptised Peter taught in
Acts by the laying on of hands.
And or by the anointing of the Holy Spirit without hands.
Post by unknown
Post by Dr. Who
and gifted with various and sundry spiritual
gifts as well as ministry gifts that we could spread the word and the Gospel
of the Kingdom to men all around the world, exalting the Glory of God that he
might draw many unto him.
Yes, but Paul teaches not all recieve all the gifts and the miricle of
spontaneous speech in the language of other cultures is the least of them.
No one suggested anything else, yet we were admonished to see the better
gifts.

It is a mistake to call it spontaneous speech, a misunderstanding of
religious men and their theories.
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