Discussion:
The bible does not say, "All men are sinners!"
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Michael Christ
2023-11-30 22:11:00 UTC
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Show me the scripture that states, "All men are sinners." You have
assumed that in order to try and justify who you are.

It says all men have sinned but does not say all men remain sinners or
remain whores of the world.

Only sinful men who wish to remain in their sin say, "All men are
sinners."

Sinners seek to establish what they are as righteous, religious, or
otherwise.  In the Spirit, they deny their sin (e.g., I am not a whore,
I am not a liar); they deceive themselves, and the truth is not in them.






Michael Christ
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind, because what do you have that is lasting? It is not so much
being punished, it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God, a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."
James
2023-12-06 21:19:38 UTC
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On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 09:11:00 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Show me the scripture that states, "All men are sinners." You have
assumed that in order to try and justify who you are.
I doubt it has the exact words you put together "All men are sinners."
But it says the same things using God's words:

Ec 7:20, "There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right
and never sins." (NIV)

This says all men sin all the time.

"For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not
want to do--this I keep on doing." (NIV)

"I keep doing". Paul constantly sins.
Post by Michael Christ
It says all men have sinned but does not say all men remain sinners or
remain whores of the world.
Only sinful men who wish to remain in their sin say, "All men are
sinners."
Sinners seek to establish what they are as righteous, religious, or
otherwise.  In the Spirit, they deny their sin (e.g., I am not a whore,
I am not a liar); they deceive themselves, and the truth is not in them.
See above where the BIBLE says all people constantly sin.

Sincerely James,
Why do people do
so much despising?
Go to jw.org
12/6/23
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Robert
2023-12-06 22:03:26 UTC
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Post by James
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 09:11:00 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Show me the scripture that states, "All men are sinners." You have
assumed that in order to try and justify who you are.
I doubt it has the exact words you put together "All men are sinners."
Ec 7:20, "There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right
and never sins." (NIV)
This says all men sin all the time.
"For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not
want to do--this I keep on doing." (NIV)
"I keep doing". Paul constantly sins.
No, he did not. He was speaking to the truths of his life, as a Jew, then as
a Born Again Believer. This has been not only explained to you before, but
these scriptures also were.

And if verse 9 is true in your life, then you are currently doomed to hell,
the pit, and later the lake of fire and brimstone. Even your own heart
condemns you.

Rom 8:1-9

1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus,
who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from
the law of sin and death.

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God
sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned
sin in the flesh:

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not
after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they
that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life
and peace.

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the
law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of
God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of
his.
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
It says all men have sinned but does not say all men remain sinners or
remain whores of the world.
Only sinful men who wish to remain in their sin say, "All men are
sinners."
Sinners seek to establish what they are as righteous, religious, or
otherwise. In the Spirit, they deny their sin (e.g., I am not a whore,
I am not a liar); they deceive themselves, and the truth is not in them.
See above where the BIBLE says all people constantly sin.
Jesus did not sin and never sinned. You know that.
Post by James
Sincerely James,
James
2023-12-21 01:53:10 UTC
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Sincerely James,
Why are JW's so
against Christmas?
Go to jw.org
12/20/23
Michael Christ
2023-12-07 08:08:08 UTC
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Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Show me the scripture that states, "All men are sinners." You have
assumed that in order to try and justify who you are.
And indeed you do, James!
Post by James
I doubt it has the exact words you put together "All men are sinners."
You put them together, James, in your "constant state" sin!
Post by James
All men are sinners Michael
Sinner James
Post by James
Ec 7:20, "There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right
and never sins." (NIV)
As you have been told many times now, James, you are trying to justify
yourself in your sin!

Give it up, you can't!

Ecclesatiaites 7:20: There came a great and wonderful Saviour, Buddy,
who saves indeed!!! :-). Praise the Lord Jesus Christ or praise God,
whatever you prefer. A reminder: only God is sinless, James, and was
the Lord Jesus sinless?

Show me the scripture that states what YOU state in your constant sin
state, "All men are sinners," and we can dispense, once and for all,
with these bothersome scriptures and quite a few others...

2Co_5:17  Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old
things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Gal_6:15  For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing,
nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

1Jn 3:9  Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed
remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Joh_8:34  Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever
committeth sin is the servant of sin. So, how can you be a servant of
God???

Let's delete them, shall we, that we may make way for your perfect
"constant sinner" interpretations of the Word of God reign.
Post by James
This says all men sin all the time.
And so you are now? :-). I don't take the word of lying whores and
their bible interpretations, Sinner James. It is just a thing I have! :-).

Paul is speaking to his fallen sinful fleshly state (physical being) in
the 3rd person; something that is detached from who he really is.
Post by James
"For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not
want to do--this I keep on doing." (NIV)
"I keep doing". Paul constantly sins.
My dear verse plucking constant sinner, then Paul cannot be an apostle
of God, a preacher and a doer of righteousness. What? He is a whore
apostle? No, that is for the people who pretend they are not lying,
sinning whores, Sinner James.
Post by James
I am sincere, I do not lie
Really? A sinner that does not lie? That is like trying to find a fish
that can fly in outer space. :-).

Romans 7..."That is, in my flesh (physicality)" and "body of death,"
"body (physicality)," No change.

I am flat out understanding the length, breadth and deep of Romans 7
into 8, but this I know clearly, Paul is not saying he is a constantly
lying sinning whore of the world, the servant of sin. And I can see
clearly, you have no idea what he is saying.

And the reason you don't is because you are trying to justify your
sinful state!

You say out your mouth all men are constant sinners. So, you live a lie
(in sin) and say you are not a liar in spirit??? Is sin NOT spiritual?

In addition to this: is the admission by a sinner that he is a sinner
the measure by which we measure righteousness as righteousness???

Do you even know what sin is?

"that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful."

What an entangled mess you have to live in!
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
It says all men have sinned but does not say all men remain sinners or
remain whores of the world.
Only sinful men who wish to remain in their sin say, "All men are
sinners."
Sinners seek to establish what they are as righteous, religious, or
otherwise.  In the Spirit, they deny their sin (e.g., I am not a whore,
I am not a liar); they deceive themselves, and the truth is not in them.
See above where the BIBLE says all people constantly sin.
Then how can you NOT be a whore and a liar? How can you possibly do what
you claim you do—follow Bible truth?  How does a constant sinner walk in
truth?  I know there are people who are contortionists, but I am yet to
see how a person can be in two different places at the same
time—spiritually or physically.

Just shut up, Always Sinning James.  You are a liar, and the truth is
not in you.  You do not confess what you REALLY are, and until you do,
you will not be cleansed of all unrighteousness.  You interpret your
Bible according to your sinful state and not according to the Spirit of
Truth.

Learn what sin is and what a sinner does.

Why is sin a lie?




Michael Christ
Post by James
Sincerely James,
PS: Bull! That is a lie. You are a [quote] constant sinner. Where in
your bible does it say, sin and sincerity cohabit or sin be a revolving
door habitation of righteousness religiousness?
Post by James
Why do people do
so much despising?
Go to jw.org
12/6/23
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind, because what do you have that is lasting? It is not so much
being punished, it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God, a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."
James
2023-12-21 17:37:25 UTC
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On Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:08:08 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Show me the scripture that states, "All men are sinners." You have
assumed that in order to try and justify who you are.
And indeed you do, James!
Post by James
I doubt it has the exact words you put together "All men are sinners."
Yes, that's what the Bible says.
Post by Michael Christ
You put them together, James, in your "constant state" sin!
Yes, that's just what the Bible says.
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
All men are sinners Michael
Sinner James
Post by James
Ec 7:20, "There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right
and never sins." (NIV)
As you have been told many times now, James, you are trying to justify
yourself in your sin!
Give it up, you can't!
No one can. The BIBLE (God's inspired word) says all men sin. I didn't
make this stuff up. It was written thousands of years ago.
Post by Michael Christ
Ecclesatiaites 7:20: There came a great and wonderful Saviour, Buddy,
who saves indeed!!! :-). Praise the Lord Jesus Christ or praise God,
whatever you prefer. A reminder: only God is sinless, James, and was
the Lord Jesus sinless?
Actually God is sinless, Adam and Eve WERE sinless, Jesus is sinless,
Many angels are sinless, many angels WERE sinless.
Post by Michael Christ
Show me the scripture that states what YOU state in your constant sin
state, "All men are sinners," and we can dispense, once and for all,
with these bothersome scriptures and quite a few others...
Actually it is Scriptures (plural). To refresh your memory:

Job 14:4, "Who can bring what is pure from the impure? No one!" (NIV)

1 Jo 1:8, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and
the truth is not in us." (KJV)

Ro 3:23, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,"
(NIV)

Ec 7:20, "There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right
and never sins." (NIV)

Ro 5:12, "Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man,
and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because
all sinned" (NIV)

Ro 7:19, "For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I
do not want to do--this I keep on doing." (NIV)

-- Living Bible
Psalms 51:5 But I was born a sinner, yes, from the moment my mother
conceived me.

-- Revised Standard
1 Kings 8:46 "If they sin against thee--for there is no man who does
not sin--and thou art angry with them, and dost give them to an enemy,
so that they are carried away captive to the land of the enemy, far
off or near;

It can't get any clearer than that.
Post by Michael Christ
2Co_5:17  Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old
things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Gal_6:15  For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing,
nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
1Jn 3:9  Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed
remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
This one from your translation seems to back you up. But it is a poor
translation here, and is misleading you. It leaves out an important
word. You can see it in these translations:

-- Living Bible
1 John 3:9 The person who has been born into God's family does not
make a practice of sinning, because now God's life is in him; so he
can't keep on sinning, for this new life has been born into him and
controls him--he has been born again.

-- International English
1 John 3:9 When God makes a person His child, that person does not
continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him. That person is not
able to continue to sin, because he has become a child of God.

-- New American Standard
1 John 3:9 No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed
abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.


-- Darby's Bible
1 John 3:9 Whoever has been begotten of God does not practice sin,
because his seed abides in him, and he cannot sin, because he has been
begotten of God.

-- Weymouth's New Testament
1 John 3:9 No one who is a child of God is habitually guilty of sin.
A God-given germ of life remains in him, and he cannot habitually sin
- because he is a child of God.

- International Standard Version
1 John 3:9 No one who has been born from God practices sin, because
God's seed abides in him. Indeed, he cannot go on sinning, because he
has been born from God.

-- William's NewTestament
1 John 3:9 No one who is born of God makes a practice of sinning,
because the God-given life-principle<d> continues to live in him, and
so he cannot practice sinning,<e> because he is born of God.

--New World Translation
1 John 3:9 Everyone who has been born from God does not practice sin,
for His seed remains in such one, and he cannot practice sin, for he
has been born from God.

The key word here is willful PRACTICE of sin. For example, let's say a
professed Christian gets drunk every night. He clearly is PRACTICING
sin, whereas Paul would sin but not plan on it, which makes him "born
from God".
Post by Michael Christ
Joh_8:34  Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever
committeth sin is the servant of sin.
You have a similar problem here with your translation. Your
translation contradicts 1 Jo 1:8, Ro 3:23, Ec 7:20, Rom 5:12, Rom
7:19, Psalms 51:5, 1 Kings 8:46.

What Jesus meant here was willful PRACTICERS of sin.
Post by Michael Christ
So, how can you be a servant of
God???
See above.
Post by Michael Christ
Let's delete them, shall we, that we may make way for your perfect
"constant sinner" interpretations of the Word of God reign.
Never delete Scriptures. Rather try to understand them.
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
This says all men sin all the time.
And so you are now? :-). I don't take the word of lying whores and
their bible interpretations,
Neither do I.
Post by Michael Christ
Sinner James. It is just a thing I have! :-).
Yes, we all have our own things.
Post by Michael Christ
Paul is speaking to his fallen sinful fleshly state (physical being) in
the 3rd person; something that is detached from who he really is.
So does Paul suffer from what they used to call MPS? (multiple
personality Syndrome)
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
"For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not
want to do--this I keep on doing." (NIV)
"I keep doing". Paul constantly sins.
My dear verse plucking constant sinner, then Paul cannot be an apostle
of God, a preacher and a doer of righteousness. What? He is a whore
apostle? No, that is for the people who pretend they are not lying,
sinning whores, Sinner James.
If you deny the truth of Paul's words AT Rom 7:19, then who is really
the LIAR?
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
I am sincere, I do not lie
Really? A sinner that does not lie? That is like trying to find a fish
that can fly in outer space. :-).
Actually, you have found that 'fish'.
Post by Michael Christ
Romans 7..."That is, in my flesh (physicality)" and "body of death,"
"body (physicality)," No change.
I am flat out understanding the length, breadth and deep of Romans 7
into 8, but this I know clearly, Paul is not saying he is a constantly
lying sinning whore of the world, the servant of sin. And I can see
clearly, you have no idea what he is saying.
Sorry, but it clearly looks like to me you are pulling and stretching
the Scripture to say what you want it to say.
Post by Michael Christ
And the reason you don't is because you are trying to justify your
sinful state!
No way Jose. I never justify sin. It is what it is. And when I sin, I
ask forgiveness and move on from there.
Post by Michael Christ
You say out your mouth all men are constant sinners. So, you live a lie
(in sin) and say you are not a liar in spirit??? Is sin NOT spiritual?
Sin to me is disobedience to Almighty God and now, Jesus.
Post by Michael Christ
In addition to this: is the admission by a sinner that he is a sinner
the measure by which we measure righteousness as righteousness???
Do you even know what sin is?
See above
Post by Michael Christ
"that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful."
What an entangled mess you have to live in!
Speak for yourself!
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
It says all men have sinned but does not say all men remain sinners or
remain whores of the world.
Only sinful men who wish to remain in their sin say, "All men are
sinners."
Sinners seek to establish what they are as righteous, religious, or
otherwise.  In the Spirit, they deny their sin (e.g., I am not a whore,
I am not a liar); they deceive themselves, and the truth is not in them.
See above where the BIBLE says all people constantly sin.
Then how can you NOT be a whore and a liar? How can you possibly do what
you claim you do—follow Bible truth?  How does a constant sinner walk in
truth?
The apostle Paul set the example. Even though he occasionally sinned,
Jesus from Heaven personally chose him to be an apostle to the
nations. He was granted a great privilege. Thus Paul sinned but didn't
PRACTICE sin, and walked in Bible truth.
Post by Michael Christ
 I know there are people who are contortionists, but I am yet to
see how a person can be in two different places at the same
time—spiritually or physically.
Just shut up, Always Sinning James.  You are a liar, and the truth is
not in you.  You do not confess what you REALLY are, and until you do,
you will not be cleansed of all unrighteousness.  You interpret your
Bible according to your sinful state and not according to the Spirit of
Truth.
I use many Bible translations. If you tell me yours, I will try to use
yours to converse.
Post by Michael Christ
Learn what sin is and what a sinner does.
I have been around long enough to know such things.
Post by Michael Christ
Why is sin a lie?
If each atom is 99.99% space, why does it feel solid to us?
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Post by James
Sincerely James,
PS: Bull! That is a lie. You are a [quote] constant sinner. Where in
your bible does it say, sin and sincerity cohabit or sin be a revolving
door habitation of righteousness religiousness?
Was the apostle Paul sincere? Of course he was. And he admitted he
couldn't stop from sinning. Here is the broken record again:

Ro 7:19, "For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I
do not want to do--this I keep on doing." (NIV)

Sincerely James,
Why are JW's so
against Christmas?
Go to jw.org
12/21/23
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Why do people do
so much despising?
Go to jw.org
12/6/23
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
2023-12-21 22:15:08 UTC
Permalink
Sorry, I don't take the advice of a person who is constantly sinning
like their version of the apostle Paul.

What is a self-righteous sinner, James?
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Learn what sin is and what a sinner does.
I have been around long enough to know such things.
Not long enough.

Why is sin a lie?
Post by James
I have been around long enough to know such things.
To whomever will hear, it is difficult to go back and be a child again.

But...it must be!







Michael Christ
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind, because what do you have that is lasting? It is not so much
being punished, it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God, a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."
James
2023-12-31 22:42:02 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:15:08 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Sorry, I don't take the advice of a person who is constantly sinning
like their version of the apostle Paul.
There is only one version of Paul. The one in the Bible.
Post by Michael Christ
What is a self-righteous sinner, James?
It would depend on how righteous he thought he was:

-- New King James
Ecclesiastes 7:16 Do not be overly righteous, nor be overly wise: why
should you destroy yourself?

Thus a self-righteous Christian should not think more of himself that
is necessary.
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Learn what sin is and what a sinner does.
I have been around long enough to know such things.
Not long enough.
Why is sin a lie?
All ready been answered by me.
But your answer is "Because sin exchanges the truth for a lie."
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
I have been around long enough to know such things.
To whomever will hear, it is difficult to go back and be a child again.
But...it must be!
Yes, that is where most churches are at this time.

Sincerely James,
2023: Why so
many problems?
Go to jw.org
12/31/23
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
2024-01-01 01:37:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by James
On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:15:08 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Sorry, I don't take the advice of a person who is constantly sinning
like their version of the apostle Paul.
There is only one version of Paul. The one in the Bible.
Post by Michael Christ
What is a self-righteous sinner, James?
-- New King James
Ecclesiastes 7:16 Do not be overly righteous, nor be overly wise: why
should you destroy yourself?
Thus a self-righteous Christian should not think more of himself that
is necessary.
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Learn what sin is and what a sinner does.
I have been around long enough to know such things.
Not long enough.
Why is sin a lie?
All ready been answered by me.
But your answer is "Because sin exchanges the truth for a lie."
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
I have been around long enough to know such things.
To whomever will hear, it is difficult to go back and be a child again.
But...it must be!
Yes, that is where most churches are at this time.
Sincerely James,
2023: Why so
many problems?
Go to jw.org
12/31/23
Sorry, I haven't got time for you in your constantly sinning, James.

Though, you have been given plenty of time already.





Michael Christ
--
God is God

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind, because what do you have that is lasting? It is not so much
being punished, it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God, a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."
James
2024-01-10 16:03:17 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 12:37:32 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:15:08 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Sorry, I don't take the advice of a person who is constantly sinning
like their version of the apostle Paul.
There is only one version of Paul. The one in the Bible.
Post by Michael Christ
What is a self-righteous sinner, James?
-- New King James
Ecclesiastes 7:16 Do not be overly righteous, nor be overly wise: why
should you destroy yourself?
Thus a self-righteous Christian should not think more of himself that
is necessary.
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Learn what sin is and what a sinner does.
I have been around long enough to know such things.
Not long enough.
Why is sin a lie?
All ready been answered by me.
But your answer is "Because sin exchanges the truth for a lie."
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
I have been around long enough to know such things.
To whomever will hear, it is difficult to go back and be a child again.
But...it must be!
Yes, that is where most churches are at this time.
Sincerely James,
2023: Why so
many problems?
Go to jw.org
12/31/23
Sorry, I haven't got time for you in your constantly sinning, James.
\
Yes, as I have told you a trillion times, all persons sin, and you are
not the exception.
Post by Michael Christ
Though, you have been given plenty of time already.
Well, for all of us, time is running out in this reality.

Sincerely James,
The beginning of the
end starts in Israel?
1/10/2024
Go to jw.org
Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
Michael Christ
2024-01-10 19:40:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by James
On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 12:37:32 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:15:08 +1100, Michael Christ
Post by Michael Christ
Sorry, I don't take the advice of a person who is constantly sinning
like their version of the apostle Paul.
There is only one version of Paul. The one in the Bible.
Post by Michael Christ
What is a self-righteous sinner, James?
-- New King James
Ecclesiastes 7:16 Do not be overly righteous, nor be overly wise: why
should you destroy yourself?
Thus a self-righteous Christian should not think more of himself that
is necessary.
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
Post by Michael Christ
Learn what sin is and what a sinner does.
I have been around long enough to know such things.
Not long enough.
Why is sin a lie?
All ready been answered by me.
But your answer is "Because sin exchanges the truth for a lie."
Post by Michael Christ
Post by James
I have been around long enough to know such things.
To whomever will hear, it is difficult to go back and be a child again.
But...it must be!
Yes, that is where most churches are at this time.
Sincerely James,
2023: Why so
many problems?
Go to jw.org
12/31/23
Sorry, I haven't got time for you in your constantly sinning, James.
\
Yes, as I have told you a trillion times, all persons sin, and you are
not the exception.
Post by Michael Christ
Though, you have been given plenty of time already.
Well, for all of us, time is running out in this reality.
Sincerely James,
The beginning of the
end starts in Israel?
1/10/2024
Go to jw.org
Thanks again for your convenient constantly sinning religious opinion,
James.

I just don't know how you and me can get along without it.

It is an amazing thing to lay eyes on someone who is constantly sinning
being so constantly righteous.

It is a wonder to behold.




Michael Christ
--
God is God

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God, a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."
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