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Enfleshment? Put into flesh? BAH! HUMBUG !!
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Dr. Who
2022-12-09 17:18:39 UTC
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Read what the Heavenly Father spoke to John the Baptist.

“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his
glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and
truth.†(Joh 1:14, KJV)

Yes, did you see it? What happened to Jesus?

Was he incarnated?

Was he wrapped up in Flesh?

Really? What does the Word of God speak out loud?

He was MADE Flesh. IOW The flesh that all men at that time saw was Jesus.
Touch Him and you touched Jesus. Yes, the ONLY son that was begotten of our
Heavenly Father.

Those who believe in Him are adopted sons. Born Again of the Spirit of God,
But Jesus? To see him you saw a Son of God as a fleshly man. Yet of the
Godhead
35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon
thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that
holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

The seed of God, the egg of mankind. God, made a man.

Psa 8:5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast
crowned him with glory and honour.

Heb 2:7 Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him
with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:

Heb 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the
suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of
God should taste death for every man.

This last verse answers the question as to why Jesus, as God, could die. A
question many people in these groups have asked.

This is what John the Baptist said as he introduced Jesus to the world.

Joh 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the
Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Joh 1:30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred
before me: for he was before me.

Joh 1:31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel,
therefore am I come baptizing with water.

Joh 1:32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from
heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.

Joh 1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the
same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and
remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

Joh 1:34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

YES, Jesus MADE Flesh, God with us. He it is that baptizes us with the
Spirit. Those who are Born of God, and washed in the Blood of the Lamb that
was slain for the world.

Jesus, the second Adam, made flesh, of God.
unknown
2022-12-09 22:32:54 UTC
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Read what the Heavenly Father spoke to John the Baptist.
Correction, not John the baptist but the apostle John
Post by Dr. Who
ââ¬ÅAnd the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his
glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and
truth.â⬠(Joh 1:14, KJV)
Yes, did you see it? What happened to Jesus?
We can stop right there to snip this misleading error of ommission in the
bud. The John 1 has "word was with God, Word was God ... Word became flesh
and dwelt among us".

Note, John is saying Christ,ie. "Word" is God. The man physical Jesus wass
the outcome of the incarnation of Word/God.

"Born of the HS and the virgin Mary". It was not the mere usual joining of
egg and sperm,ie. biological conception. This page considering the greek
used says in short; amiricle of the divine to be present in cause the
origination and to produce Christ in Mary's womb; no usual biology there..
Luke 1:35:

https://www.quotescosmos.com/bible/bible-verses/Luke-1-35.html

Which of course by definition means Christ was divine from the beginning by
a divine miricle of incarnation in Mary's womb; and further more as such
truely the mother of God,ie. "God bearer" of Christ.
Dr. Who
2022-12-10 01:48:26 UTC
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Post by Dr. Who
Read what the Heavenly Father spoke to John the Baptist.
Correction, not John the baptist but the apostle John
Correcting the poor woman's theory,

2Ti 3:16-17 (KJV)

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for
doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good
works.
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Post by Dr. Who
ââ¬ÅAnd the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his
glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and
truth.â⬠(Joh 1:14, KJV)
Yes, did you see it? What happened to Jesus?
We can stop right there to snip this misleading error of ommission in the
bud. The John 1 has "word was with God, Word was God ... Word became flesh
and dwelt among us".
Joh 1:1-3 (KJV)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was
God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that
was made.

Clearly you are clueless. ;(
Post by unknown
Note, John is saying Christ,ie. "Word" is God. The man physical Jesus wass
the outcome of the incarnation of Word/God.
Never was said and you obviously have no shame and are willing to lie.
Post by unknown
"Born of the HS and the virgin Mary". It was not the mere usual joining of
egg and sperm,ie. biological conception. This page considering the greek
used says in short; amiricle of the divine to be present in cause the
origination and to produce Christ in Mary's womb; no usual biology there..
Mat 1:20 (KJV)

20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord
appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to
take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the
Holy Ghost.

Conceived, and stated so by the Holy Spirit who overshadowed her.

Not only can you not read, but you cannot understand conception and conceive
or conceived as spoken in scripture.

Run along little woman, find more words of men to tickle your ears. You can
shun the God and his word, but it will be all to your detriment.

Ask Mary to help you and see how far she helps you.
NightBulb.net
2022-12-10 04:06:11 UTC
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Conceived, and stated so by the Holy Spirit who overshadowed her.
Not only can you not read, but you cannot understand conception and conceive
or conceived as spoken in scripture.
Speaking of conception, you blundered that one when you forgot that
pregnancy begins in the fallopian tube. I facepalmed hard when I read
your waffling about ectopic pregnancy. It was more hilarious than a Clinton.
Post by Dr. Who
Run along little woman, find more words of men to tickle your ears. You can
shun the God and his word, but it will be all to your detriment.
Is he "the God" now? Is that like "you THE man?" Does "the God" do
fist-bumps and "yo bros?"
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Ask Mary to help you and see how far she helps you.
Wow, Dr. Who! You are up there so high on your pedestal you look like a
little dot from down here. Have mercy on the little land-lubbers who
cannot ascend so high as your holy station!
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NightBulb.net
2022-12-20 21:58:13 UTC
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Run along little woman, find more words of men to tickle your ears. You can
shun the God and his word, but it will be all to your detriment.
Wow, Dr. Who! You are up there so high on your pedestal you look like a
little dot from down here.
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NightBulb.net
2022-12-20 21:57:38 UTC
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Post by Dr. Who
Read what the Heavenly Father spoke to John the Baptist.
Correction, not John the baptist but the apostle John
Post by Dr. Who
璽漎譽nd the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his
glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and
truth.璽漎 (Joh 1:14, KJV)
Yes, did you see it? What happened to Jesus?
We can stop right there to snip this misleading error of ommission in the
bud. The John 1 has "word was with God, Word was God ... Word became flesh
and dwelt among us".
Note, John is saying Christ,ie. "Word" is God. The man physical Jesus wass
the outcome of the incarnation of Word/God.
"Born of the HS and the virgin Mary". It was not the mere usual joining of
egg and sperm,ie. biological conception. This page considering the greek
used says in short; amiricle of the divine to be present in cause the
origination and to produce Christ in Mary's womb; no usual biology there..
https://www.quotescosmos.com/bible/bible-verses/Luke-1-35.html
Which of course by definition means Christ was divine from the beginning by
a divine miricle of incarnation in Mary's womb; and further more as such
truely the mother of God,ie. "God bearer" of Christ.
Mary is the mother of Jesus. She is not the mother of God. God the
Father and God the Son have no mother. The woman was taken OUT OF MAN
and fashioned from his better half, AKA, 'rib.'

Being the woman that birthed him does not make Mary the mother of the
divine spirit within that fleshly tabernacle.

The Babylonians, Assyrians, and Egyptians who worshiped Semiramis
(Ishtar, Isis, etc.), believed she was the mother of God (Ra, Horus,
Osiris, Tammuz, Zeus, Thor, etc.). Semiramis, the queen mother of heaven
of the pagans of Egypt and Babylon, is an ancient name which is a
compound word of two words:

Shemi : queen, mother of the people
Rami : romans, worshippers of Ram, or Ra, the red one of heaven, or red sea.

and It means "queen of the Romans" or "mother of the disciples of Ra."
The fabled Queen of Assyria's official name was, "Queen of the Romans."

Some etymologists believe that Semiramis is from the Sumerian, "Sammur
Amat", meaning "gift of the sea." Well now, we have the Holy See and the
Red Sea. And we have the beast from the sea. What a gift she is, giving
us 2000 years of bloody purges of everyone who would not burn a pinch of
incense to Caesar, the son of Semiramis.

This should help you to understand Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9 a
little more clearly. The Roman Church claims to be Judah, having the
scepter authority to rule the nations. Many papal bulls have declared
this, all in vain.

Etymologists can't agree on the meaning of the name of Semiramis because
they disconnect it from its context. Rami or Rama refers to the red sun,
or the heaven being painted red by the long rays of the sun (Ra), like a
sea of red in the high heaven. Shemi refers to the Queen who gives birth
to the sun-god. This is the foundation of Roman Catholicism, the inner
'esoteric' teaching of the pagan leadership. Since they conquered Judea,
they have appropriated the scriptures and in syncretic fashion
appropriated them into their Solar and Moon cult religion.

This is why all monarchs and nobles wear crowns. The crown symbolizes
the sun god, born from the Mother Church (Rome). This is the origin of
the "divine right of kings" in that the Roman Sun cult claims to be of
divine origin.

The "Romans" who founded the "Roman Universal (Catholic) Church" had
their ancestors in Babylon and Egypt. They carried their religion
forward into Israel and Jerusalem and then the Tiber and founded the
city of Rome. Yet they were Rama or Romans for many centuries before
they founded Rome.

The mythical Semiramis was born in Israel. Now you know the real reason
they call it the "Holy Land" and why the Roman Crusaders murdered
millions in their crusades over that land. These sick twisted religious
extremists know no bounds in their thirst for blood.

Since Semiramis was considered the Mother of God (Tammuz) she was
worshiped as greater than Tammuz, and the people said prayers to, "The
mother of God." Just as Roman Catholics have always done. They glommed
onto the name of Mary, or Miriam, which is half of Sham miramu, or
Semiramis.

Romans call their Church "Universal" because they mean it rules the
universe. The concept of the "universe" is pagan to the core and does
not come from the bible. The bible does not say that God created the
"universe." And he did not create in a single sentence. He spoke many
sentences when he created the "heavens and the earth". The Romans have
superimposed their pagan "universe theory" over the scripture, and
changed the meaning of the holy writ to gibberish.

The Roman Catholic Church was a satanic death cult FROM DAY ONE. It did
not start out right, then go wrong. it is not the body of Christ that
was established in the New Covenant. The Kingdom of God is invisible,
and only those who are in it (born again) can see it. That excludes ALL
churches, Roman, Protestant, Lutheran, Charismatic, Mennonite,
Anabaptist, Amish, and otherwise. Jesus warned that if anyone tells you
the kingdom is over here or over there (this temple, that church, this
pew, that sect), do not believe them, for the Kingdom is within those
who are born again.
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2022-12-10 01:39:32 UTC
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He was MADE Flesh. IOW The flesh that all men at that time saw was Jesus.
Touch Him and you touched Jesus. Yes, the ONLY son that was begotten of our
Heavenly Father.
Those who believe in Him are adopted sons. Born Again of the Spirit of God,
But Jesus? To see him you saw a Son of God as a fleshly man. Yet of the
Godhead
35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon
thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that
holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
The seed of God, the egg of mankind. God, made a man.
This statement seems to insinuate that one of God's sperm fertilized an
egg in Mary's fallopian tube. Is this true? Clarify how the deed was done.
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Dr. Who
2022-12-10 01:57:56 UTC
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Post by Dr. Who
He was MADE Flesh. IOW The flesh that all men at that time saw was Jesus.
Touch Him and you touched Jesus. Yes, the ONLY son that was begotten of our
Heavenly Father.
Those who believe in Him are adopted sons. Born Again of the Spirit of God,
But Jesus? To see him you saw a Son of God as a fleshly man. Yet of the
Godhead
35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon
thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that
holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
The seed of God, the egg of mankind. God, made a man.
This statement seems to insinuate that one of God's sperm fertilized an
egg in Mary's fallopian tube. Is this true? Clarify how the deed was done.
No doubt in your mind it did. A tubal pregnancy is abnormal and deadly if not
caught in time.

Ask yourself why were the terms for conception and conceived used?

1Pe 1:23Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by
the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Again, ask yourself what does that mean?
Michael McLean
2022-12-10 03:25:54 UTC
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Post by Dr. Who
He was MADE Flesh. IOW The flesh that all men at that time saw was Jesus.
Touch Him and you touched Jesus. Yes, the ONLY son that was begotten of our
Heavenly Father.
Those who believe in Him are adopted sons. Born Again of the Spirit of God,
But Jesus? To see him you saw a Son of God as a fleshly man. Yet of the
Godhead
35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon
thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that
holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
The seed of God, the egg of mankind. God, made a man.
This statement seems to insinuate that one of God's sperm fertilized an
egg in Mary's fallopian tube. Is this true? Clarify how the deed was done.
No doubt in your mind it did. A tubal pregnancy is abnormal and deadly if not
caught in time.
Ask yourself why were the terms for conception and conceived used?
1Pe 1:23Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by
the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Again, ask yourself what does that mean?
Robert the dodger is trying to roger.




Mike
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Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven."
NightBulb.net
2022-12-10 03:53:37 UTC
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Robert the dodger is trying to roger.
Simple questions trapped him with no way out. So he began to wiggle,
waggle, wriggle.
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2022-12-10 04:27:48 UTC
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He was MADE Flesh. IOW The flesh that all men at that time saw was Jesus.
Touch Him and you touched Jesus. Yes, the ONLY son that was begotten of our
Heavenly Father.
Those who believe in Him are adopted sons. Born Again of the Spirit of God,
But Jesus? To see him you saw a Son of God as a fleshly man. Yet of the
Godhead
35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon
thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that
holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
The seed of God, the egg of mankind. God, made a man.
This statement seems to insinuate that one of God's sperm fertilized an
egg in Mary's fallopian tube. Is this true? Clarify how the deed was done.
No doubt in your mind it did. A tubal pregnancy is abnormal and deadly if not
caught in time.
*facepalm*

*crazymaking in action*

*uncontrollable belly laughter*

*laughing is causing facial pain*

*face hurts so bad eyes are watering*

*must ... not ... get ... face ... cramp*

*you made my day*

Did you attend Biology 101 in junior high school? Didn't you work at
Loyala with their medical center and schools of medicine and what not?

Did you not know that for a woman to get pregnant, the sperm swims into
her ovaducts (fallopian tubes) and impregnates the egg while it is still
in her fallopian tube? Then the impregnated egg travels down the
fallopian tube, into the uterus. Pregnancy begins in the fallopian tube.
Ectopic pregnancy has nothing to do with the question. I about died from
laughter from your responses in this and another message. I seriously
just started having uncontrollable laughing fits ... Read on to the end
to find out why.

So your answer is a dodge, and avoids the question:

"This statement seems to insinuate that one of God's sperm fertilized an
egg in Mary's fallopian tube. Is this true? Clarify how the deed was done."

By all means, clarify and answer my question. Did a sperm impregnate an
egg to form Jesus in the womb, or not? And if yes, who's sperm was it?
If no, then why did you speak of the seed (sperm) fertilizing the egg?
Post by Dr. Who
Ask yourself why were the terms for conception and conceived used?
1Pe 1:23Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by
the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Again, ask yourself what does that mean?
I was asking you what you mean, and instead of answering you
misrepresented my words, and demonstrated ignorance of how a pregnancy
occurs. I'm very sorry to see that a worker at a Jesuit institution
didn't know female biology.

At the same time that you confuse conception with ectopic pregnancy, you
are presenting yourself as an expert on the pregnancy of the blessed
mother of Jesus. I'm trying to reconcile the contradiction here, because
you are demonstrating contradictory beliefs.

You answer my question, first. I've already answered your question many,
many times. The new birth comes when the Spirit speaks the Name of Jesus
Christ to the hearer who has ears to hear. Yet 1 Peter 1:23 has nada to
do with the details of Jesus being conceived by Mary. That would be
equating the new birth by faith to the flesh conception. If you want to
confuse conception with birth, when they are nine months apart, that's
on you.

BTW, I knew you would stumble over the fallopian tube before I sent the
post. I really did. I saw it coming. I feel like Nicolas Cage in the
movie, NEXT.

Robert, if only you could laugh at yourself the way you made me laugh
today, you would find more joy in that one moment than in your entire
lifetime of pretending to believe in Jesus.

Robert, it is OK to admit that you don't really believe in Jesus'
resurrection. He still loves you. Your faith isn't up to you. It's up to
Him.

"Lord help me with my unbelief!"

The man saying this prayer is justified and healed. The one lionizing
his own great faith is not justified.

Step down from your pedestal, Robert. Admit defeat and let Christ bring
victory in weakness rather than pretending to have strength of your own.
He conquers through the weak things of the world, and they take down the
mighty and strong.
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Michael McLean
2022-12-10 21:44:09 UTC
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He was MADE Flesh. IOW The flesh that all men at that time saw was Jesus.
Touch Him and you touched Jesus. Yes, the ONLY son that was begotten of our
Heavenly Father.
Those who believe in Him are adopted sons. Born Again of the Spirit of God,
But Jesus? To see him you saw a Son of God as a fleshly man. Yet of the
Godhead
35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon
thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore
also
that
holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
The seed of God, the egg of mankind. God, made a man.
This statement seems to insinuate that one of God's sperm fertilized an
egg in Mary's fallopian tube. Is this true? Clarify how the deed was done.
No doubt in your mind it did. A tubal pregnancy is abnormal and deadly if not
caught in time.
*facepalm*
*crazymaking in action*
*uncontrollable belly laughter*
*laughing is causing facial pain*
*face hurts so bad eyes are watering*
*must ... not ... get ... face ... cramp*
*you made my day*
Did you attend Biology 101 in junior high school? Didn't you work at
Loyala with their medical center and schools of medicine and what not?
Did you not know that for a woman to get pregnant, the sperm swims into
her ovaducts (fallopian tubes) and impregnates the egg while it is still
in her fallopian tube? Then the impregnated egg travels down the
fallopian tube, into the uterus. Pregnancy begins in the fallopian tube.
Ectopic pregnancy has nothing to do with the question. I about died from
laughter from your responses in this and another message. I seriously
just started having uncontrollable laughing fits ... Read on to the end
to find out why.
"This statement seems to insinuate that one of God's sperm fertilized an
egg in Mary's fallopian tube. Is this true? Clarify how the deed was done."
By all means, clarify and answer my question. Did a sperm impregnate an
egg to form Jesus in the womb, or not? And if yes, who's sperm was it?
If no, then why did you speak of the seed (sperm) fertilizing the egg?
Post by Dr. Who
Ask yourself why were the terms for conception and conceived used?
1Pe 1:23Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of
incorruptible, by
the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Again, ask yourself what does that mean?
I was asking you what you mean, and instead of answering you
misrepresented my words, and demonstrated ignorance of how a pregnancy
occurs. I'm very sorry to see that a worker at a Jesuit institution
didn't know female biology.
At the same time that you confuse conception with ectopic pregnancy, you
are presenting yourself as an expert on the pregnancy of the blessed
mother of Jesus. I'm trying to reconcile the contradiction here, because
you are demonstrating contradictory beliefs.
You answer my question, first. I've already answered your question many,
many times. The new birth comes when the Spirit speaks the Name of Jesus
Christ to the hearer who has ears to hear. Yet 1 Peter 1:23 has nada to
do with the details of Jesus being conceived by Mary. That would be
equating the new birth by faith to the flesh conception. If you want to
confuse conception with birth, when they are nine months apart, that's
on you.
BTW, I knew you would stumble over the fallopian tube before I sent the
post. I really did. I saw it coming. I feel like Nicolas Cage in the
movie, NEXT.
Robert, if only you could laugh at yourself the way you made me laugh
today, you would find more joy in that one moment than in your entire
lifetime of pretending to believe in Jesus.
Robert, it is OK to admit that you don't really believe in Jesus'
resurrection. He still loves you. Your faith isn't up to you. It's up to
Him.
"Lord help me with my unbelief!"
The man saying this prayer is justified and healed. The one lionizing
his own great faith is not justified.
Step down from your pedestal, Robert. Admit defeat and let Christ bring
victory in weakness rather than pretending to have strength of your own.
He conquers through the weak things of the world, and they take down the
mighty and strong.
This connects with something that the Lord brought to mind last night.

Robert has a white-knuckle grip on his knowledge, and that will never
do! The Bible is his security, and it can't be.

Along with that, but aside from that, Judaism thinks the path to God is
"knowledge"; you know, to "know" Him.  It sounds so right, doesn't it?
But it is not; a typical subtle satanic lie.

The path, obviously, is to believe in Him, not in what you think you
know about God in the Torah or the Bible doctrines, dogmas, and
theologies. Yes, initial knowledge is required, but it does not end
there; as in ever-learning and never coming to the knowledge of the
truth, as the Bible states.

Here is the problem with religion, the stumbling block for them:
everything you think you know, it all has to go and you have to rely
totally on Him, believing fully in Him.

Imagine the Israelites at the Red Sea, Egyptians bearing down on them,
backs to a wall of sea, many young, old, frail, weak – no hope.  All the
practical, earthly-sound theology in the world will not help here.

Even Tony Robbins is not going to out-positive this moment!  All the
knowledge in the world is not going to compete with simply believing in
Him, trusting in Him alone, and not leaning on your own understanding,
and that is where He wants all of us.

Nothing less. It is too hard for those who lack faith because, to be in
that place (e.g., the Red Sea moment) and trust Him, you have to love
Him with all your heart, soul, and mind. To be able to do that, you
would have had to have allowed Him to create in you a clean heart and
place a right spirit in you through what is already described above.

God is no fool; God can cleanse a man of all unrighteousness (yes,
sinless), and it must happen here and now; now is the accepted time. 
How else can a man stand before Him in peace unless God has cleansed him
of all unrighteousness?  None of this "I'm a sinner" (a whore) but I
claim I have Jesus' blood dripping all over me theology, so God can't
see my sin state nonsense - get away with being a whore nonsense!

All things are possible with God.  Isn't the parting of the Red Sea an
example of that?  How much more then is He able to...?

You see, it all boils down to what a person really wants, all one way or
all the other, and there is no spectrum (compromise) of in between.




Mike
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven."
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Post by Michael McLean
Post by NightBulb.net
Post by Dr. Who
Post by NightBulb.net
Post by Dr. Who
He was MADE Flesh. IOW The flesh that all men at that time saw was Jesus.
Touch Him and you touched Jesus. Yes, the ONLY son that was begotten of our
Heavenly Father.
Those who believe in Him are adopted sons. Born Again of the Spirit of God,
But Jesus? To see him you saw a Son of God as a fleshly man. Yet of the
Godhead
35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon
thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore
also
that
holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
The seed of God, the egg of mankind. God, made a man.
This statement seems to insinuate that one of God's sperm fertilized an
egg in Mary's fallopian tube. Is this true? Clarify how the deed was done.
No doubt in your mind it did. A tubal pregnancy is abnormal and deadly if not
caught in time.
*facepalm*
*crazymaking in action*
*uncontrollable belly laughter*
*laughing is causing facial pain*
*face hurts so bad eyes are watering*
*must ... not ... get ... face ... cramp*
*you made my day*
Did you attend Biology 101 in junior high school? Didn't you work at
Loyala with their medical center and schools of medicine and what not?
Did you not know that for a woman to get pregnant, the sperm swims
into her ovaducts (fallopian tubes) and impregnates the egg while it
is still in her fallopian tube? Then the impregnated egg travels down
the fallopian tube, into the uterus. Pregnancy begins in the fallopian
tube. Ectopic pregnancy has nothing to do with the question. I about
died from laughter from your responses in this and another message. I
seriously just started having uncontrollable laughing fits ... Read on
to the end to find out why.
"This statement seems to insinuate that one of God's sperm fertilized
an egg in Mary's fallopian tube. Is this true? Clarify how the deed
was done."
By all means, clarify and answer my question. Did a sperm impregnate
an egg to form Jesus in the womb, or not? And if yes, who's sperm was
it? If no, then why did you speak of the seed (sperm) fertilizing the
egg?
Post by Dr. Who
Ask yourself why were the terms for conception and conceived used?
1Pe 1:23Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of
incorruptible, by
the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Again, ask yourself what does that mean?
I was asking you what you mean, and instead of answering you
misrepresented my words, and demonstrated ignorance of how a pregnancy
occurs. I'm very sorry to see that a worker at a Jesuit institution
didn't know female biology.
At the same time that you confuse conception with ectopic pregnancy,
you are presenting yourself as an expert on the pregnancy of the
blessed mother of Jesus. I'm trying to reconcile the contradiction
here, because you are demonstrating contradictory beliefs.
You answer my question, first. I've already answered your question
many, many times. The new birth comes when the Spirit speaks the Name
of Jesus Christ to the hearer who has ears to hear. Yet 1 Peter 1:23
has nada to do with the details of Jesus being conceived by Mary. That
would be equating the new birth by faith to the flesh conception. If
you want to confuse conception with birth, when they are nine months
apart, that's on you.
BTW, I knew you would stumble over the fallopian tube before I sent
the post. I really did. I saw it coming. I feel like Nicolas Cage in
the movie, NEXT.
Robert, if only you could laugh at yourself the way you made me laugh
today, you would find more joy in that one moment than in your entire
lifetime of pretending to believe in Jesus.
Robert, it is OK to admit that you don't really believe in Jesus'
resurrection. He still loves you. Your faith isn't up to you. It's up
to Him.
"Lord help me with my unbelief!"
The man saying this prayer is justified and healed. The one lionizing
his own great faith is not justified.
Step down from your pedestal, Robert. Admit defeat and let Christ
bring victory in weakness rather than pretending to have strength of
your own. He conquers through the weak things of the world, and they
take down the mighty and strong.
This connects with something that the Lord brought to mind last night.
Robert has a white-knuckle grip on his knowledge, and that will never
do! The Bible is his security, and it can't be.
Along with that, but aside from that, Judaism thinks the path to God is
"knowledge"; you know, to "know" Him.  It sounds so right, doesn't it?
But it is not; a typical subtle satanic lie.
The path, obviously, is to believe in Him, not in what you think you
know about God in the Torah or the Bible doctrines, dogmas, and
theologies. Yes, initial knowledge is required, but it does not end
there; as in ever-learning and never coming to the knowledge of the
truth, as the Bible states.
everything you think you know, it all has to go and you have to rely
totally on Him, believing fully in Him.
Imagine the Israelites at the Red Sea, Egyptians bearing down on them,
backs to a wall of sea, many young, old, frail, weak – no hope.  All the
practical, earthly-sound theology in the world will not help here.
Even Tony Robbins is not going to out-positive this moment!  All the
knowledge in the world is not going to compete with simply believing in
Him, trusting in Him alone, and not leaning on your own understanding,
and that is where He wants all of us.
Nothing less. It is too hard for those who lack faith because, to be in
that place (e.g., the Red Sea moment) and trust Him, you have to love
Him with all your heart, soul, and mind. To be able to do that, you
would have had to have allowed Him to create in you a clean heart and
place a right spirit in you through what is already described above.
God is no fool; God can cleanse a man of all unrighteousness (yes,
sinless), and it must happen here and now; now is the accepted time. How
else can a man stand before Him in peace unless God has cleansed him of
all unrighteousness?  None of this "I'm a sinner" (a whore) but I claim
I have Jesus' blood dripping all over me theology, so God can't see my
sin state nonsense - get away with being a whore nonsense!
All things are possible with God.  Isn't the parting of the Red Sea an
example of that?  How much more then is He able to...?
You see, it all boils down to what a person really wants, all one way or
all the other, and there is no spectrum (compromise) of in between.
Yes! "Knowledge" as they call it, is just their perceptions based on
their desires.

As soon as someone says, "I have experiential knowledge of God" I know I
am dealing with someone who has no experience but his own perceptions.
He attaches names, labels, doctrines to things, and thinks this gives
mastery over them. If I know someone I don't say, "I have experiential
knowledge of Bob." I say I know Bob. I talked with him yesterday.

I can testify that I heard the voice of the Father tell me, directly,
that Jesus is His Son, and that the Name of Jesus is salvation. Not only
then was I baptized in His Name, but he is baptizing me daily. "I die
daily" is how we walk. The Lord sends his spirit to guide me often. His
Spirit witnesses about the goings on, the who for, the what for, and the
why for, and then when I see it happening I know.

The Christian religion claims the blood of Jesus, but His blood was shed
once for all. They try to crucify him again and again with their
spiritual works whoredom.

Just reciting the name of Jesus like an incantation, or using scripture
passages like incantations, has no power. But this is the type of
Kabbalist sympathetic magic religious people are guilty of. It would be
better for them to stand proud of their sin and sin boldly and
defiantly, than it is to claim they have no sin, when they still reject
the covering of the Word.
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