The Legend of Moses was already ancient when the book of Exodus was written

Post by Ted
It was the legend of an Egyptian prince. And how do we know that?
Because of the hilariously ridiculous bullshit story in Exodus
2:1-10, contrived to convert him into a Hebrew. Also because the name
"Moses" was popular among Egyptian royalty, as it means "begotten".
For example, Rameses was begotten of the god Ra and Thutmose for the
god Thoth.
The book of Exodus is a collection of ancient legends and traditions,
molded into their fable about the founding of Israel. Like the rest
of the Bible, it's mostly bullshit.

Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him has been found in the
tops of Ancient bldgs by Archeologists, Joseph was the son of Issac who ruled
Egypt under the auspices of the Pharaoh at the time for well past 7 years.
The daughter of the Pharaoh at the time Moses wa found floating on the river,
hired his Mom as the wet nurse.

Have you ever considered being a fiction writer?

Ted

2023-01-28 12:34:00 UTC

"begotten".

Post by Ted
For example, Rameses was begotten of the god Ra and Thutmose for the
god Thoth.
The book of Exodus is a collection of ancient legends and

traditions,

Post by Ted
molded into their fable about the founding of Israel. Like the rest
of the Bible, it's mostly bullshit.

I've read a few things about it, mostly intriguing speculation. I do
recall reading they found the name Jacob but don't remember a mention
of Joseph. If you have a link, I'll happily read it.

Post by Dr. Who
The daughter of the Pharaoh at the time Moses wa found floating on the river,
hired his Mom as the wet nurse.

LOL. Yes. It worked out quite well for them. She got to raise her own
kid in luxury. But it isn't true.

Post by Dr. Who
Have you ever considered being a fiction
writer?

I'm not sufficiently talented, although one of my progeny is. But
what I post is true or I wouldn't post it. Exodus 2:1-10 is pure
bullshit and if you believe it really happened then I have a great
real estate opportunity I suspect will interest you.

Dr. Who

2023-01-28 16:20:05 UTC

name

Post by Ted
"Moses" was popular among Egyptian royalty, as it means

"begotten".

Post by Ted
For example, Rameses was begotten of the god Ra and Thutmose for

the

Post by Ted
god Thoth.
The book of Exodus is a collection of ancient legends and

traditions,

Post by Ted
molded into their fable about the founding of Israel. Like the

rest

Post by Ted
of the Bible, it's mostly bullshit.

Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him has been found

in the

Post by Dr. Who
tops of Ancient bldgs by Archeologists, Joseph was the son of Issac

who ruled

Post by Dr. Who
Egypt under the auspices of the Pharaoh at
the time for well past 7 years.

I've read a few things about it, mostly intriguing speculation. I do
recall reading they found the name Jacob but don't remember a mention
of Joseph. If you have a link, I'll happily read it.

You memory must have slipped, since it was Jospeh not Jacob as you will see
in the link below.

Post by Dr. Who
The daughter of the Pharaoh at the time Moses wa found floating on

the river,

Post by Dr. Who
hired his Mom as the wet nurse.

LOL. Yes. It worked out quite well for them. She got to raise her own
kid in luxury. But it isn't true.

Post by Dr. Who
Have you ever considered being a fiction
writer?

https://marktabata.com/2021/11/16/archaeological-evidences-of-joseph-in-
egypt/

While this isn’t what I first set out to show you, this is very interesting
and covers all your negative points. It points you by name to what you can
out into your search engine for the proofs. There are plenty of proof
pictures on the Net if you did a search, as well as U-tube videos on the
subject.

Yes I do believe all the Bible as it is the word of God.

Ted

2023-01-28 18:59:34 UTC

name

Post by Ted
"Moses" was popular among Egyptian royalty, as it means

"begotten".

Post by Ted
For example, Rameses was begotten of the god Ra and Thutmose for

the

Post by Ted
god Thoth.
The book of Exodus is a collection of ancient legends and

traditions,

Post by Ted
molded into their fable about the founding of Israel. Like the

rest

Post by Ted
of the Bible, it's mostly bullshit.

Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him has been found

in the

Post by Dr. Who
tops of Ancient bldgs by Archeologists, Joseph was the son of Issac

who ruled

Post by Dr. Who
Egypt under the auspices of the Pharaoh at
the time for well past 7 years.

I've read a few things about it, mostly intriguing speculation. I do
recall reading they found the name Jacob but don't remember a mention
of Joseph. If you have a link, I'll happily read it.

You memory must have slipped, since it was Jospeh not Jacob as you will see
in the link below.

Post by Dr. Who
The daughter of the Pharaoh at the time Moses wa found floating on

the river,

Post by Dr. Who
hired his Mom as the wet nurse.

LOL. Yes. It worked out quite well for them. She got to raise her own
kid in luxury. But it isn't true.

Post by Dr. Who
Have you ever considered being a fiction
writer?

https://marktabata.com/2021/11/16/archaeological-evidences-of-joseph-in
-

Post by Dr. Who
egypt/
While this isn’t what I first set out to show you, this is very interesting
and covers all your negative points. It points you by name to what you can
out into your search engine for the proofs. There are plenty of proof
pictures on the Net if you did a search, as well as U-tube videos on the
subject.
Yes I do believe all the Bible as it is the
word of God.

Good article, Robert, thank you. I added it to my collection.
Fascinating stuff.

But even if the story of Joseph is mostly true, the book of Exodus is
still mostly false.

It is true, however, that escapees from Egypt migrated to Israel,
carrying Yahweh along with them, whom they identified with the
inhabitants' god El.

Jeroboam, btw, also later tried to connect the two in order to better
integrate the Israelites and Canaanites in his kingdom. Hence, the
golden calves (bulls) he installed at Bethel and Dan.

Dr. Who

2023-01-28 19:37:27 UTC

Post by Ted
It was the legend of an Egyptian prince. And how do we know

that?

Post by Ted
Because of the hilariously ridiculous bullshit story in Exodus
2:1-10, contrived to convert him into a Hebrew. Also because

the

Post by Ted
name

Post by Ted
"Moses" was popular among Egyptian royalty, as it means

"begotten".

Post by Ted
For example, Rameses was begotten of the god Ra and Thutmose

for

Post by Ted
the

Post by Ted
god Thoth.
The book of Exodus is a collection of ancient legends and

traditions,

Post by Ted
molded into their fable about the founding of Israel. Like the

rest

Post by Ted
of the Bible, it's mostly bullshit.

Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him has been

found

Post by Ted
in the

Post by Dr. Who
tops of Ancient bldgs by Archeologists, Joseph was the son of

Issac

Post by Ted
who ruled

Post by Dr. Who
Egypt under the auspices of the Pharaoh at
the time for well past 7 years.

I've read a few things about it, mostly intriguing speculation. I

Post by Ted
recall reading they found the name Jacob but don't remember a

mention

Post by Ted
of Joseph. If you have a link, I'll happily read it.

You memory must have slipped, since it was Jospeh not Jacob as you

will see

Post by Dr. Who
in the link below.

Post by Dr. Who
The daughter of the Pharaoh at the time Moses wa found floating

Post by Ted
the river,

Post by Dr. Who
hired his Mom as the wet nurse.

LOL. Yes. It worked out quite well for them. She got to raise her

own

Post by Ted
kid in luxury. But it isn't true.

Post by Dr. Who
Have you ever considered being a fiction
writer?

https://marktabata.com/2021/11/16/archaeological-evidences-of-joseph-in
-

Post by Dr. Who
egypt/
While this isn’t what I first set out to show you, this is very

interesting

Post by Dr. Who
and covers all your negative points. It points you by name to what

you can

Post by Dr. Who
out into your search engine for the proofs. There are plenty of

proof

Post by Dr. Who
pictures on the Net if you did a search, as well as U-tube videos

on the

Post by Dr. Who
subject.
Yes I do believe all the Bible as it is the
word of God.

That is a common mistake that many people make, especially atheists.

“El, Elohim” Is and was the common name for “GOD, God, god”, by all
peoples from the times of Noah, It became generic via the usage by many
peoples. It was also used as a term for Master, or someone in control, like a
ruler.

When God decided to chose a people for himself, he selected the Hebrew
descendants of Abraham through which he was going to show himself to all
peoples, They were a nondescript people, short, disadvantaged, etc. By this
time there were poly-gods or all types. So to differentiate himself from all
the Generics he told Moses that He,Yehovah, was to be the name of their
“One” God. From that he establish himself apart from all other man made
God, and through that name was to be the path to The Heavenly Father unto the
end of Time. We know him by the name of Jesus, and the Heavenly Father is
called the “Ancient One” in the OT.

Post by Ted
Jeroboam, btw, also later tried to connect the two in order to better
integrate the Israelites and Canaanites in his kingdom. Hence, the
golden calves (bulls) he installed at Bethel and Dan.

No, He set up false gods, leading to the undoing of the Jews, a common
mistake of those people over the course of centuries where they would follow
other gods, then repent when things got really, really, bad and return to
Yehovah God.

Here is the proof that he separated the 10 Northern tribes from God, and then
that part of the Nation divorced themselves from God.

2Ch 13:9 (KJV)

9 Have ye not cast out the priests of the LORD, the sons of Aaron, and the
Levites, and have made you priests after the manner of the nations of other
lands? so that whosoever cometh to consecrate himself with a young bullock
and seven rams, the same may be a priest of them that are no gods.

Ted

2023-01-28 21:07:55 UTC

On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 20:53:13 -0800, Dr.

Post by Dr. Who
(in

Post by Ted
It was the legend of an Egyptian prince. And how do we know

that?

Post by Ted
Because of the hilariously ridiculous bullshit story in Exodus
2:1-10, contrived to convert him into a Hebrew. Also

because

Post by Ted
the

name

Post by Ted
"Moses" was popular among Egyptian royalty, as it means

"begotten".

Post by Ted
For example, Rameses was begotten of the god Ra and

Thutmose

Post by Ted
for

the

Post by Ted
god Thoth.
The book of Exodus is a collection of ancient legends and

traditions,

Post by Ted
molded into their fable about the founding of Israel. Like the

rest

Post by Ted
of the Bible, it's mostly bullshit.

Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him has been

found

in the

Post by Dr. Who
tops of Ancient bldgs by Archeologists, Joseph was the son of

Issac

who ruled

Post by Dr. Who
Egypt under the auspices of the Pharaoh at
the time for well past 7 years.

I've read a few things about it, mostly intriguing

speculation. I

Post by Ted
do

recall reading they found the name Jacob but don't remember a

mention

of Joseph. If you have a link, I'll happily read it.

You memory must have slipped, since it was Jospeh not Jacob as you

will see

Post by Dr. Who
in the link below.

Post by Dr. Who
The daughter of the Pharaoh at the time Moses wa found

floating

Post by Ted
on

the river,

Post by Dr. Who
hired his Mom as the wet nurse.

LOL. Yes. It worked out quite well for them. She got to raise her

own

kid in luxury. But it isn't true.

Post by Dr. Who
Have you ever considered being a fiction
writer?

https://marktabata.com/2021/11/16/archaeological-evidences-of-joseph-in

Post by Ted
-

Post by Dr. Who
egypt/
While this isn’t what I first set out to show you, this is very

interesting

Post by Dr. Who
and covers all your negative points. It points you by name to what

you can

Post by Dr. Who
out into your search engine for the proofs. There are plenty of

proof

Post by Dr. Who
pictures on the Net if you did a search, as well as U-tube

videos

Post by Ted
on the

Post by Dr. Who
subject.
Yes I do believe all the Bible as it is the
word of God.

Good article, Robert, thank you. I added it to my collection.
Fascinating stuff.
But even if the story of Joseph is mostly true, the book of

Exodus is

Post by Ted
still mostly false.
It is true, however, that escapees from Egypt migrated to Israel,
carrying Yahweh along with them, whom they identified with the
inhabitants' god El.

control, like a

Post by Dr. Who
ruler.

The Canaanites referred to him more specifically as "Bull El".
Perhaps that was to differentiate him from all the other Els running
around.

Post by Dr. Who
When God decided to chose a people for himself, he selected the Hebrew
descendants of Abraham through which he was going to show himself to all
peoples, They were a nondescript people, short, disadvantaged, etc. By this
time there were poly-gods or all types. So to differentiate himself from all
the Generics he told Moses that He,Yehovah, was to be the name of their
“One” God. From that he establish himself apart from all other man made
God, and through that name was to be the path to The Heavenly

Father unto the

Post by Dr. Who
end of Time. We know him by the name of Jesus, and the Heavenly Father is
called the “Ancient One” in the OT.

The earliest archaeological record of Yhwh is in Midian. The escapees
from Egypt, already monotheists (well, their leaders were), adopted
the name as an alternate for their god Aten.

Many of them were former Egyptian military and they provided military
training for their fellow escapees, out of necessity, cuz Egypt
wanted them dead. So they were nobody to fuck with. And when they
heard about the nascent country of Israel, land of opportunity in
those days, they decided to check it out, found it was easy pickin's,
and negotiated a place for themselves with the Israelite inhabitants.

Two of the most ancient passages in the Bible are the Song of Miriam
and the Song of Deborah, the former making no mention of Israel and
the latter making no mention of Levites, as both were composed before
their meeting.

No, He set up false gods, leading to the

What he was trying to do is clear. Read what he told the people they
were.

Post by Dr. Who
undoing of the Jews, a common
mistake of those people over the course of centuries where they would follow
other gods, then repent when things got really, really, bad and return to
Yehovah God.
Here is the proof that he separated the 10 Northern tribes from God, and then
that part of the Nation divorced themselves from God.
2Ch 13:9 (KJV)
9 Have ye not cast out the priests of the LORD, the sons of Aaron, and the
Levites, and have made you priests after the manner of the nations of other
lands? so that whosoever cometh to consecrate himself with a young bullock
and seven rams, the same may be a priest of them that are no gods.

Yeah, that's what mainly pissed off the Levites. Jeroboam just hired
any old Joes off the street to be priests.

Dr. Who

2023-01-28 23:59:00 UTC

On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 20:53:13 -0800, Dr.

Post by Dr. Who
(in

Post by Ted
It was the legend of an Egyptian prince. And how do we

know

Post by Ted
that?

Post by Ted
Because of the hilariously ridiculous bullshit story in

Exodus

Post by Ted
2:1-10, contrived to convert him into a Hebrew. Also

because

Post by Ted
the

name

Post by Ted
"Moses" was popular among Egyptian royalty, as it means

"begotten".

Post by Ted
For example, Rameses was begotten of the god Ra and

Thutmose

Post by Ted
for

the

Post by Ted
god Thoth.
The book of Exodus is a collection of ancient legends and

traditions,

Post by Ted
molded into their fable about the founding of Israel.

Like the

rest

Post by Ted
of the Bible, it's mostly bullshit.

Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him has been

found

in the

Post by Dr. Who
tops of Ancient bldgs by Archeologists, Joseph was the son

Post by Ted
Issac

who ruled

Post by Dr. Who
Egypt under the auspices of the Pharaoh at
the time for well past 7 years.

I've read a few things about it, mostly intriguing

speculation. I

Post by Ted
do

recall reading they found the name Jacob but don't remember a

mention

of Joseph. If you have a link, I'll happily read it.

You memory must have slipped, since it was Jospeh not Jacob as

you

Post by Ted
will see

Post by Dr. Who
in the link below.

Post by Dr. Who
The daughter of the Pharaoh at the time Moses wa found

floating

Post by Ted
on

the river,

Post by Dr. Who
hired his Mom as the wet nurse.

LOL. Yes. It worked out quite well for them. She got to raise

her

Post by Ted
own

kid in luxury. But it isn't true.

Post by Dr. Who
Have you ever considered being a fiction
writer?

I'm not sufficiently talented, although one of my progeny is.

But

what I post is true or I wouldn't post it. Exodus 2:1-10 is

pure

bullshit and if you believe it really happened then I have a

great

real estate opportunity I suspect will interest you.

https://marktabata.com/2021/11/16/archaeological-evidences-of-joseph-in

Post by Ted
-

Post by Dr. Who
egypt/
While this isn’t what I first set out to show you, this is very

interesting

Post by Dr. Who
and covers all your negative points. It points you by name to

what

Post by Ted
you can

Post by Dr. Who
out into your search engine for the proofs. There are plenty of

proof

Post by Dr. Who
pictures on the Net if you did a search, as well as U-tube

videos

Post by Ted
on the

Post by Dr. Who
subject.
Yes I do believe all the Bible as it is the
word of God.

Good article, Robert, thank you. I added it to my collection.
Fascinating stuff.
But even if the story of Joseph is mostly true, the book of

Exodus is

Post by Ted
still mostly false.
It is true, however, that escapees from Egypt migrated to Israel,
carrying Yahweh along with them, whom they identified with the
inhabitants' god El.

many

Post by Dr. Who
peoples. It was also used as a term for Master, or someone in

control, like a

Post by Dr. Who
ruler.

The Canaanites referred to him more specifically as "Bull El".
Perhaps that was to differentiate him from all the other Els running
around.

A Bull is a symbol of God in the ancient languages.

Post by Dr. Who
When God decided to chose a people for himself, he selected the

Hebrew

Post by Dr. Who
descendants of Abraham through which he was going to show himself

to all

Post by Dr. Who
peoples, They were a nondescript people, short, disadvantaged, etc.

By this

Post by Dr. Who
time there were poly-gods or all types. So to differentiate himself

from all

Post by Dr. Who
the Generics he told Moses that He,Yehovah, was to be the name of

their

Post by Dr. Who
“One” God. From that he establish himself apart from all other man

made

Post by Dr. Who
God, and through that name was to be the path to The Heavenly

Father unto the

Post by Dr. Who
end of Time. We know him by the name of Jesus, and the Heavenly

Father is

Post by Dr. Who
called the “Ancient One” in the OT.

The earliest archaeological record of Yhwh is in Midian. The escapees
from Egypt, already monotheists (well, their leaders were), adopted
the name as an alternate for their god Aten.

You need to show proof of that statement. Yes, the Hebrew Children of were
mostly of the One God Elohim, but many, very man, had adopted the Egyptian
polygons. If, by saying the escapee’s from Egypt selected an alternate name
for their historical God then you are in error.

Post by Ted
Many of them were former Egyptian military and they provided military
training for their fellow escapees, out of necessity, cuz Egypt
wanted them dead. So they were nobody to fuck with. And when they
heard about the nascent country of Israel, land of opportunity in
those days, they decided to check it out, found it was easy pickin's,
and negotiated a place for themselves with the Israelite inhabitants.

Practicing your fiction skills again? ;)

Post by Ted
Two of the most ancient passages in the Bible are the Song of Miriam
and the Song of Deborah, the former making no mention of Israel and
the latter making no mention of Levites, as both were composed before
their meeting.

“And the children of Israel were fruitful, and increased abundantly, and
multiplied, and waxed exceeding mighty; and the land was filled with them.”
(Exo 1:7, KJV)

As you can see, they were all called the Children of Israel. Thus Israelite,
and in Exodus, as to Judges, there were Levites in the Land of Israel, They
migrated there with the other 11 tribes of Israel. And in the book of Judges
a son of a Levite was mentioned. And possibly more.

Post by Ted
Jeroboam, btw, also later tried to connect the two in order to

better

Post by Ted
integrate the Israelites and Canaanites in his kingdom. Hence, the
golden calves (bulls) he installed at Bethel and Dan.

No, He set up false gods, leading to the

What he was trying to do is clear. Read what he told the people they
were.

He, like a false prophet was playing the people. Who were corrupted,

Post by Dr. Who
undoing of the Jews, a common
mistake of those people over the course of centuries where they

would follow

Post by Dr. Who
other gods, then repent when things got really, really, bad and

return to

Post by Dr. Who
Yehovah God.
Here is the proof that he separated the 10 Northern tribes from

God, and then

Post by Dr. Who
that part of the Nation divorced themselves from God.
2Ch 13:9 (KJV)
9 Have ye not cast out the priests of the LORD, the sons of Aaron,

and the

Post by Dr. Who
Levites, and have made you priests after the manner of the nations

of other

Post by Dr. Who
lands? so that whosoever cometh to consecrate himself with a young

bullock

Post by Dr. Who
and seven rams, the same may be a priest of them that are no gods.

Yeah, that's what mainly pissed off the Levites. Jeroboam just hired
any old Joes off the street to be priests.

Judaism has laws and ordinances to follow, all of with the ancestors of the
ten northern tribes had signed on to. They were breaking their covenant to
the God of Israel.

Ted

2023-01-29 00:41:48 UTC

Post by Ted
The Canaanites referred to him more
specifically as "Bull El". Perhaps that was
to differentiate him from all the other Els
running around.

A Bull is a symbol of God in the ancient
languages.

Interesting, I didn't know that.

Post by Ted
The earliest archaeological record of
Yhwh is in Midian. The escapees from
Egypt, already monotheists (well, their
leaders were), adopted the name as an
alternate for their god Aten.

You need to show proof of that statement.
Yes, the Hebrew Children of were mostly of
the One God Elohim, but many, very man,
had adopted the Egyptian polygons. If, by
saying the escapee’s from Egypt selected
an alternate name for their historical God
then you are in error.

When I say "escapees from Egypt", I'm not referring to the Hebrew
slaves of Exodus.

Post by Ted
Many of them were former Egyptian
military and they provided military
training for their fellow escapees, out of
necessity, cuz Egypt wanted them dead.
So they were nobody to fuck with. And
when they heard about the nascent
country of Israel, land of opportunity in
those days, they decided to check it out,
found it was easy pickin's, and
negotiated a place for themselves with
the Israelite inhabitants.

Practicing your fiction skills again? ;)

Actually, it all follows from known facts. It would require a page or
two to explain the whole paragraph, but lemme know what particularly
you doubt, and I'll explain that.

Post by Ted
Two of the most ancient passages in the
Bible are the Song of Miriam and the
Song of Deborah, the former making no
mention of Israel and the latter making
no mention of Levites, as both were
composed before their meeting.

“And the children of Israel were fruitful, and
increased abundantly, and multiplied, and
waxed exceeding mighty; and the land was
filled with them.” (Exo 1:7, KJV)
As you can see, they were all called the
Children of Israel. Thus Israelite, and in
Exodus, as to Judges, there were Levites in
the Land of Israel, They migrated there
with the other 11 tribes of Israel. And in the
book of Judges a son of a Levite was
mentioned. And possibly more.

The only Israelites in the Bible with Egyptian names are Levites.
Ever wonder about that? And didn't you read what I said above about
the Song of Miriam and the Song of Deborah?

Post by Ted
What he was trying to do is clear. Read
what he told the people they were.

He, like a false prophet was playing the
people. Who were corrupted,

Jeroboam was trying to do what a competent king would do, unite his
people.

Post by Ted
Yeah, that's what mainly pissed off the
Levites. Jeroboam just hired any old
Joes off the street to be priests.

Judaism has laws and ordinances to
follow, all of with the ancestors of the ten
northern tribes had signed on to. They
were breaking their covenant to the God of
Israel.

Yes, he broke the previously agreed upon arrangement. But also, he
stabbed the Levites in the back, because without them, he wouldn't
have been king.

Dr. Who

2023-01-29 01:47:16 UTC

Post by Ted
The Canaanites referred to him more
specifically as "Bull El". Perhaps that was
to differentiate him from all the other Els
running around.

A Bull is a symbol of God in the ancient
languages.

Interesting, I didn't know that.

Post by Ted
The earliest archaeological record of
Yhwh is in Midian. The escapees from
Egypt, already monotheists (well, their
leaders were), adopted the name as an
alternate for their god Aten.

You need to show proof of that statement.
Yes, the Hebrew Children of were mostly of
the One God Elohim, but many, very man,
had adopted the Egyptian polygons. If, by
saying the escapeeâ€™s from Egypt selected
an alternate name for their historical God
then you are in error.

When I say "escapees from Egypt", I'm not referring to the Hebrew
slaves of Exodus.

Then I am clueless.

Post by Ted
Many of them were former Egyptian
military and they provided military
training for their fellow escapees, out of
necessity, cuz Egypt wanted them dead.
So they were nobody to fuck with. And
when they heard about the nascent
country of Israel, land of opportunity in
those days, they decided to check it out,
found it was easy pickin's, and
negotiated a place for themselves with
the Israelite inhabitants.

Practicing your fiction skills again? ;)

Actually, it all follows from known facts. It would require a page or
two to explain the whole paragraph, but lemme know what particularly
you doubt, and I'll explain that.

All of it.

Post by Ted
Two of the most ancient passages in the
Bible are the Song of Miriam and the
Song of Deborah, the former making no
mention of Israel and the latter making
no mention of Levites, as both were
composed before their meeting.

â€œAnd the children of Israel were fruitful, and
increased abundantly, and multiplied, and
waxed exceeding mighty; and the land was
filled with them.â€ (Exo 1:7, KJV)
As you can see, they were all called the
Children of Israel. Thus Israelite, and in
Exodus, as to Judges, there were Levites in
the Land of Israel, They migrated there
with the other 11 tribes of Israel. And in the
book of Judges a son of a Levite was
mentioned. And possibly more.

The only Israelites in the Bible with Egyptian names are Levites.
Ever wonder about that? And didn't you read what I said above about
the Song of Miriam and the Song of Deborah?

Yes, I did, and I reviewed both books and their pertains statements of the
two women. That the women did not mention Israel my name was not necessary
for what they said.

Post by Ted
What he was trying to do is clear. Read
what he told the people they were.

He, like a false prophet was playing the
people. Who were corrupted,

Jeroboam was trying to do what a competent king would do, unite his
people.

A godless one, perhaps. He was not competent that was pretty obvious.

Post by Ted
Yeah, that's what mainly pissed off the
Levites. Jeroboam just hired any old
Joes off the street to be priests.

Judaism has laws and ordinances to
follow, all of with the ancestors of the ten
northern tribes had signed on to. They
were breaking their covenant to the God of
Israel.

Yes, he broke the previously agreed upon arrangement. But also, he
stabbed the Levites in the back, because without them, he wouldn't
have been king.

He actually stabbed God in the back for He was the one who directed the
Levites.

Ted

2023-01-29 02:47:59 UTC

Post by Ted
The Canaanites referred to him more
specifically as "Bull El". Perhaps that was
to differentiate him from all the other Els
running around.

A Bull is a symbol of God in the ancient
languages.

Interesting, I didn't know that.

Post by Ted
The earliest archaeological record of
Yhwh is in Midian. The escapees from
Egypt, already monotheists (well, their
leaders were), adopted the name as an
alternate for their god Aten.

You need to show proof of that statement.
Yes, the Hebrew Children of were mostly of
the One God Elohim, but many, very man,
had adopted the Egyptian polygons. If, by
saying the escapeeâ€™s from Egypt selected
an alternate name for their historical God
then you are in error.

When I say "escapees from Egypt", I'm not referring to the Hebrew
slaves of Exodus.

Then I am clueless.

They were the followers of Akhenaten's monotheistic heresy and their
slaves and whatever other slaves they could gather before fleeing.
They were the proto Levites.

Post by Ted
Many of them were former Egyptian
military and they provided military
training for their fellow escapees, out of
necessity, cuz Egypt wanted them dead.
So they were nobody to fuck with. And
when they heard about the nascent
country of Israel, land of opportunity in
those days, they decided to check it out,
found it was easy pickin's, and
negotiated a place for themselves with
the Israelite inhabitants.

Practicing your fiction skills again? ;)

Actually, it all follows from known facts. It would require a page or
two to explain the whole paragraph, but lemme know what

particularly

Post by Ted
you doubt, and I'll explain that.

All of it.

I'm willing to explain a bit at a time if you're interested.

Post by Ted
Two of the most ancient passages in the
Bible are the Song of Miriam and the
Song of Deborah, the former making no
mention of Israel and the latter making
no mention of Levites, as both were
composed before their meeting.

The only Israelites in the Bible with Egyptian names are Levites.
Ever wonder about that? And didn't you read what I said above about
the Song of Miriam and the Song of Deborah?

Yes, I did, and I reviewed both books and their pertains statements of the
two women. That the women did not mention Israel my name was not necessary
for what they said.

You miss my point. The Song of Miriam was composed in Midian before
the proto Levites went to Israel and the Song of Deborah was composed
in Israel before they got there. That's why they demonstrate
ignorance of each other.

Dr. Who

2023-01-29 04:34:48 UTC

Post by Ted
The Canaanites referred to him more
specifically as "Bull El". Perhaps that was
to differentiate him from all the other Els
running around.

A Bull is a symbol of God in the ancient
languages.

Interesting, I didn't know that.

Post by Ted
The earliest archaeological record of
Yhwh is in Midian. The escapees from
Egypt, already monotheists (well, their
leaders were), adopted the name as an
alternate for their god Aten.

You need to show proof of that statement.
Yes, the Hebrew Children of were mostly of
the One God Elohim, but many, very man,
had adopted the Egyptian polygons. If, by
saying the escapeeâ€™s from Egypt selected
an alternate name for their historical God
then you are in error.

When I say "escapees from Egypt", I'm not referring to the Hebrew
slaves of Exodus.

Then I am clueless.

They were the followers of Akhenaten's monotheistic heresy and their
slaves and whatever other slaves they could gather before fleeing.
They were the proto Levites.

They were all unrelated to the tribe of Levites. One had to be born a Levite
to be of that tribe.

Post by Ted
Many of them were former Egyptian
military and they provided military
training for their fellow escapees, out of
necessity, cuz Egypt wanted them dead.
So they were nobody to fuck with. And
when they heard about the nascent
country of Israel, land of opportunity in
those days, they decided to check it out,
found it was easy pickin's, and
negotiated a place for themselves with
the Israelite inhabitants.

Practicing your fiction skills again? ;)

Actually, it all follows from known facts. It would require a

page or

Post by Ted
two to explain the whole paragraph, but lemme know what

particularly

Post by Ted
you doubt, and I'll explain that.

All of it.

I'm willing to explain a bit at a time if you're interested.

I was or I would not have asked. Hard to discuss things one is not familiar
with.

Post by Ted
Two of the most ancient passages in the
Bible are the Song of Miriam and the
Song of Deborah, the former making no
mention of Israel and the latter making
no mention of Levites, as both were
composed before their meeting.

The only Israelites in the Bible with Egyptian names are Levites.
Ever wonder about that? And didn't you read what I said above

about

Post by Ted
the Song of Miriam and the Song of Deborah?

Yes, I did, and I reviewed both books and their pertains statements

of the

Post by Dr. Who
two women. That the women did not mention Israel my name was not

necessary

Post by Dr. Who
for what they said.

Before the Israelites went to Egypt there were Levites. The Tribe of Levites
left with the rest of the Hebrews from Egypt and wandered with the others in
the desert, and they also served in the Tabernacle of God that was moved
wherever they went. The Tent was always set up in the midst of the camp, with
the cloud of Glory over it at all times. The song of Deborah was made up
while they were in Canaan and were ruled by Judges.

It might help you to get a timeline of biblical events for all the major
points of interest, to look at. Your timelines have been known to be way off.

Ted

2023-01-29 06:19:01 UTC

On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 15:59:00 -0800, Dr.

Post by Dr. Who
(in

Post by Ted
The Canaanites referred to him more
specifically as "Bull El". Perhaps that was
to differentiate him from all the other Els
running around.

A Bull is a symbol of God in the ancient
languages.

Interesting, I didn't know that.

Post by Ted
The earliest archaeological record of
Yhwh is in Midian. The escapees from
Egypt, already monotheists (well, their
leaders were), adopted the name as an
alternate for their god Aten.

You need to show proof of that statement.
Yes, the Hebrew Children of were mostly of
the One God Elohim, but many, very man,
had adopted the Egyptian polygons. If, by
saying the escapeeâ€™s from Egypt selected
an alternate name for their historical God
then you are in error.

When I say "escapees from Egypt", I'm not referring to the Hebrew
slaves of Exodus.

Then I am clueless.

They were the followers of Akhenaten's monotheistic heresy and their
slaves and whatever other slaves they could gather before fleeing.
They were the proto Levites.

They were all unrelated to the tribe of
Levites. One had to be born a Levite to be
of that tribe.

I'm telling you how the tribe of Levites was formed.

Post by Ted
Many of them were former Egyptian
military and they provided military
training for their fellow escapees, out of
necessity, cuz Egypt wanted them dead.
So they were nobody to fuck with. And
when they heard about the nascent
country of Israel, land of opportunity in
those days, they decided to check it out,
found it was easy pickin's, and
negotiated a place for themselves with
the Israelite inhabitants.

Practicing your fiction skills again? ;)

Actually, it all follows from known facts. It would require a

page or

two to explain the whole paragraph, but lemme know what

particularly

you doubt, and I'll explain that.

All of it.

I'm willing to explain a bit at a time if you're interested.

I was or I would not have asked. Hard to
discuss things one is not familiar with.

Then I'll start with the first sentence. Many of the fugitives were
nobility and members of the upper class, who would've certainly
served as army officers. The Tabernacle is modelled after the
Egyptian military battle headquarters. And they must have had
sufficient foresight to raid the armory before they split, and
trained the slaves they brought along, as they managed to pull off a
military upset victory against the pursuing Egyptians.

Post by Ted
Two of the most ancient passages in the
Bible are the Song of Miriam and the
Song of Deborah, the former making no
mention of Israel and the latter making
no mention of Levites, as both were
composed before their meeting.

The only Israelites in the Bible with Egyptian names are

Levites.

Ever wonder about that? And didn't you read what I said above

about

the Song of Miriam and the Song of Deborah?

Yes, I did, and I reviewed both books and their pertains

statements

Post by Ted
of the

Post by Dr. Who
two women. That the women did not mention Israel my name was not

necessary

Post by Dr. Who
for what they said.

You miss my point. The Song of Miriam was composed in Midian

before

Post by Ted
the proto Levites went to Israel and the Song of Deborah was

composed

Post by Ted
in Israel before they got there. That's why they demonstrate
ignorance of each other.

Before the Israelites went to Egypt there
were Levites.

Israel was formed during the economic depression of the Late Bronze
Age when people from the coastal cities and pastoral nomads settled
there because the land was arable and unpopulated. They never "went
to Egypt".

Post by Dr. Who
The Tribe of Levites left with the rest of the
Hebrews from Egypt and wandered with
the others in the desert, and they also

That never happened at all.

Post by Dr. Who
served in the Tabernacle of God that was
moved wherever they went. The Tent was always set up in the midst

of the camp, with

Post by Dr. Who
the cloud of Glory over it at all times. The
song of Deborah was made up while they
were in Canaan and were ruled by Judges.

The book of Judges was assembled from old stories that happened five
or more centuries previously. Linguistic evidence dates the Song of
Deborah to around 1200 BCE, which also matches the story events.
However, the song doesn't correspond perfectly to the story.

Post by Dr. Who
It might help you to get a timeline of
biblical events for all the major points of
interest, to look at. Your timelines have
been known to be way off.

LOL. Funny, dude. My timeline is spot on. It's you fundies' timeline
that can be way off.

Dr. Who

2023-01-29 07:56:00 UTC

On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 15:59:00 -0800, Dr.

Post by Dr. Who
(in

Post by Ted
The Canaanites referred to him more
specifically as "Bull El". Perhaps that was
to differentiate him from all the other Els
running around.

A Bull is a symbol of God in the ancient
languages.

Interesting, I didn't know that.

Post by Ted
The earliest archaeological record of
Yhwh is in Midian. The escapees from
Egypt, already monotheists (well, their
leaders were), adopted the name as an
alternate for their god Aten.

You need to show proof of that statement.
Yes, the Hebrew Children of were mostly of
the One God Elohim, but many, very man,
had adopted the Egyptian polygons. If, by
saying the escapeeâ€™s from Egypt selected
an alternate name for their historical God
then you are in error.

When I say "escapees from Egypt", I'm not referring to the

Hebrew

slaves of Exodus.

Then I am clueless.

They were the followers of Akhenaten's monotheistic heresy and

their

Post by Ted
slaves and whatever other slaves they could gather before fleeing.
They were the proto Levites.

They were all unrelated to the tribe of
Levites. One had to be born a Levite to be
of that tribe.

I'm telling you how the tribe of Levites was formed.

They were all offspring of Levi, son of Jacob, brother of Joseph.

Post by Ted
Many of them were former Egyptian
military and they provided military
training for their fellow escapees, out of
necessity, cuz Egypt wanted them dead.
So they were nobody to fuck with. And
when they heard about the nascent
country of Israel, land of opportunity in
those days, they decided to check it out,
found it was easy pickin's, and
negotiated a place for themselves with
the Israelite inhabitants.

Practicing your fiction skills again? ;)

Actually, it all follows from known facts. It would require a

page or

two to explain the whole paragraph, but lemme know what

particularly

you doubt, and I'll explain that.

All of it.

I'm willing to explain a bit at a time if you're interested.

I was or I would not have asked. Hard to
discuss things one is not familiar with.

Sorry, but had that been true they too would have hated the Hebrews because
the firstborn of all they had would have been killed and they would have been
out for revenge blood with the rest of them. Time to do a rewrite. ;)

Post by Ted
Two of the most ancient passages in the
Bible are the Song of Miriam and the
Song of Deborah, the former making no
mention of Israel and the latter making
no mention of Levites, as both were
composed before their meeting.

The only Israelites in the Bible with Egyptian names are

Levites.

Ever wonder about that? And didn't you read what I said above

about

the Song of Miriam and the Song of Deborah?

Yes, I did, and I reviewed both books and their pertains

statements

Post by Ted
of the

Post by Dr. Who
two women. That the women did not mention Israel my name was not

necessary

Post by Dr. Who
for what they said.

You miss my point. The Song of Miriam was composed in Midian

before

Post by Ted
the proto Levites went to Israel and the Song of Deborah was

composed

Post by Ted
in Israel before they got there. That's why they demonstrate
ignorance of each other.

Before the Israelites went to Egypt there
were Levites.

They initially went to Egypt because of drought, with the resulting Famine
that lasted for 7 years. And there they lived for over 400 years as
prophesied.

Post by Dr. Who
The Tribe of Levites left with the rest of the
Hebrews from Egypt and wandered with
the others in the desert, and they also

That never happened at all.

Try very hard to convince yourself and you will believe it, over all the
evidence that exists on the Net, with pictures of proof on many things.

Post by Dr. Who
served in the Tabernacle of God that was
moved wherever they went. The Tent was always set up in the midst

of the camp, with

Post by Dr. Who
the cloud of Glory over it at all times. The
song of Deborah was made up while they
were in Canaan and were ruled by Judges.

To what story? Have you know concocted a new story line?

Post by Dr. Who
It might help you to get a timeline of
biblical events for all the major points of
interest, to look at. Your timelines have
been known to be way off.

LOL. Funny, dude. My timeline is spot on. It's you fundies' timeline
that can be way off.

The timeline of scripture is measurable in years, thanks to the genealogies
listed. And that is how we know how many years there are between know and the
time of Adam.

Ted

2023-01-29 08:48:54 UTC

On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 17:47:16 -0800, Dr.

Post by Dr. Who
(in

On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 15:59:00 -0800, Dr.

Post by Dr. Who
(in

Post by Ted
The Canaanites referred to him more
specifically as "Bull El". Perhaps that was
to differentiate him from all the other Els
running around.

A Bull is a symbol of God in the ancient
languages.

Interesting, I didn't know that.

Post by Ted
The earliest archaeological record of
Yhwh is in Midian. The escapees from
Egypt, already monotheists (well, their
leaders were), adopted the name as an
alternate for their god Aten.

You need to show proof of that statement.
Yes, the Hebrew Children of were mostly of
the One God Elohim, but many, very man,
had adopted the Egyptian polygons. If, by
saying the escapeeâ€™s from Egypt selected
an alternate name for their historical God
then you are in error.

When I say "escapees from Egypt", I'm not referring to the

Hebrew

slaves of Exodus.

Then I am clueless.

They were the followers of Akhenaten's monotheistic heresy and

their

slaves and whatever other slaves they could gather before fleeing.
They were the proto Levites.

They were all unrelated to the tribe of
Levites. One had to be born a Levite to be
of that tribe.

I'm telling you how the tribe of Levites was formed.

They were all offspring of Levi, son of
Jacob, brother of Joseph.

No, that's fiction.

Post by Ted
Many of them were former Egyptian
military and they provided military
training for their fellow escapees, out of
necessity, cuz Egypt wanted them dead.
So they were nobody to fuck with. And
when they heard about the nascent
country of Israel, land of opportunity in
those days, they decided to check it out,
found it was easy pickin's, and
negotiated a place for themselves with
the Israelite inhabitants.

Practicing your fiction skills again? ;)

Actually, it all follows from known facts. It would

require a

page or

two to explain the whole paragraph, but lemme know what

particularly

you doubt, and I'll explain that.

All of it.

I'm willing to explain a bit at a time if you're interested.

I was or I would not have asked. Hard to
discuss things one is not familiar with.

Again, you're citing fiction. That never happened.

Post by Ted
Two of the most ancient passages in the
Bible are the Song of Miriam and the
Song of Deborah, the former making no
mention of Israel and the latter making
no mention of Levites, as both were
composed before their meeting.

The only Israelites in the Bible with Egyptian names are

Levites.

Ever wonder about that? And didn't you read what I said above

about

the Song of Miriam and the Song of Deborah?

Yes, I did, and I reviewed both books and their pertains

statements

of the

Post by Dr. Who
two women. That the women did not mention Israel my name was not

necessary

Post by Dr. Who
for what they said.

You miss my point. The Song of Miriam was composed in Midian

before

the proto Levites went to Israel and the Song of Deborah was

composed

in Israel before they got there. That's why they demonstrate
ignorance of each other.

Before the Israelites went to Egypt there
were Levites.

Israel was formed during the economic depression of the Late

Bronze

Post by Ted
Age when people from the coastal cities and pastoral nomads

settled

Post by Ted
there because the land was arable and unpopulated. They never "went
to Egypt".

They initially went to Egypt because of drought, with the resulting Famine
that lasted for 7 years. And there they lived for over 400 years as
prophesied.

Nah. You showed me evidence indicating that the story of Joseph may
have been founded on a real individual. That's all. I told you where
the Israelites came from. And it wasn't Egypt.

Post by Dr. Who
The Tribe of Levites left with the rest of the
Hebrews from Egypt and wandered with
the others in the desert, and they also

That never happened at all.

Try very hard to convince yourself and you will believe it, over all the
evidence that exists on the Net, with pictures of proof on many things.

There is no evidence for the Exodus. None.

Post by Dr. Who
served in the Tabernacle of God that was
moved wherever they went. The Tent was always set up in the midst

of the camp, with

Post by Dr. Who
the cloud of Glory over it at all times. The
song of Deborah was made up while they
were in Canaan and were ruled by Judges.

To what story? Have you know concocted a new story line?

Why are you feigning ignorance? You're one of the few christers who
actually know the Bible. You're as familiar with the story as I am.

Post by Dr. Who
It might help you to get a timeline of
biblical events for all the major points of
interest, to look at. Your timelines have
been known to be way off.

LOL. Funny, dude. My timeline is spot on. It's you fundies'

timeline

Post by Ted
that can be way off.

The timeline of scripture is measurable in years, thanks to the genealogies
listed. And that is how we know how many years there are between know and the
time of Adam.

LOL. The Aaronid priests during the reign of Hezekiah wrote Genesis 1
as a replacement for the Adam and Eve myth because they knew it was
bullshit. That was in the 8th century BCE. But you 21st century
christers are still insisting it's true.

Dr. Who

2023-01-29 17:37:59 UTC

On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 17:47:16 -0800, Dr.

Post by Dr. Who
(in

On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 15:59:00 -0800, Dr.

Post by Dr. Who
(in

Post by Ted
The Canaanites referred to him more
specifically as "Bull El". Perhaps that was
to differentiate him from all the other Els
running around.

A Bull is a symbol of God in the ancient
languages.

Interesting, I didn't know that.

Post by Ted
The earliest archaeological record of
Yhwh is in Midian. The escapees from
Egypt, already monotheists (well, their
leaders were), adopted the name as an
alternate for their god Aten.

You need to show proof of that statement.
Yes, the Hebrew Children of were mostly of
the One God Elohim, but many, very man,
had adopted the Egyptian polygons. If, by
saying the escapeeâ€™s from Egypt selected
an alternate name for their historical God
then you are in error.

When I say "escapees from Egypt", I'm not referring to the

Hebrew

slaves of Exodus.

Then I am clueless.

They were the followers of Akhenaten's monotheistic heresy and

their

slaves and whatever other slaves they could gather before

fleeing.

They were the proto Levites.

They were all unrelated to the tribe of
Levites. One had to be born a Levite to be
of that tribe.

I'm telling you how the tribe of Levites was formed.

They were all offspring of Levi, son of
Jacob, brother of Joseph.

No, that's fiction.

Post by Ted
Many of them were former Egyptian
military and they provided military
training for their fellow escapees, out of
necessity, cuz Egypt wanted them dead.
So they were nobody to fuck with. And
when they heard about the nascent
country of Israel, land of opportunity in
those days, they decided to check it out,
found it was easy pickin's, and
negotiated a place for themselves with
the Israelite inhabitants.

Practicing your fiction skills again? ;)

Actually, it all follows from known facts. It would

require a

page or

two to explain the whole paragraph, but lemme know what

particularly

you doubt, and I'll explain that.

All of it.

I'm willing to explain a bit at a time if you're interested.

I was or I would not have asked. Hard to
discuss things one is not familiar with.

Then I'll start with the first sentence. Many of the fugitives

were

Post by Ted
nobility and members of the upper class, who would've certainly
served as army officers. The Tabernacle is modelled after the
Egyptian military battle headquarters. And they must have had
sufficient foresight to raid the armory before they split, and
trained the slaves they brought along, as they managed to pull

off a

Post by Ted
military upset victory against the pursuing Egyptians.

Sorry, but had that been true they too would have hated the Hebrews

because

Post by Dr. Who
the firstborn of all they had would have been killed and they would

have been

Post by Dr. Who
out for revenge blood with the rest of them. Time to do a rewrite.

;)
Again, you're citing fiction. That never happened.

Post by Ted
Two of the most ancient passages in the
Bible are the Song of Miriam and the
Song of Deborah, the former making no
mention of Israel and the latter making
no mention of Levites, as both were
composed before their meeting.

The only Israelites in the Bible with Egyptian names are

Levites.

Ever wonder about that? And didn't you read what I said

above

about

the Song of Miriam and the Song of Deborah?

Yes, I did, and I reviewed both books and their pertains

statements

of the

Post by Dr. Who
two women. That the women did not mention Israel my name

was not

necessary

Post by Dr. Who
for what they said.

You miss my point. The Song of Miriam was composed in Midian

before

the proto Levites went to Israel and the Song of Deborah was

composed

in Israel before they got there. That's why they demonstrate
ignorance of each other.

Before the Israelites went to Egypt there
were Levites.

Israel was formed during the economic depression of the Late

Bronze

Post by Ted
Age when people from the coastal cities and pastoral nomads

settled

Post by Ted
there because the land was arable and unpopulated. They never

"went

Post by Ted
to Egypt".

They initially went to Egypt because of drought, with the resulting

Famine

Post by Dr. Who
that lasted for 7 years. And there they lived for over 400 years as
prophesied.

Nah. You showed me evidence indicating that the story of Joseph may
have been founded on a real individual. That's all. I told you where
the Israelites came from. And it wasn't Egypt.

Post by Dr. Who
The Tribe of Levites left with the rest of the
Hebrews from Egypt and wandered with
the others in the desert, and they also

That never happened at all.

Try very hard to convince yourself and you will believe it, over

all the

Post by Dr. Who
evidence that exists on the Net, with pictures of proof on many

things.
There is no evidence for the Exodus. None.

Post by Dr. Who
served in the Tabernacle of God that was
moved wherever they went. The Tent was always set up in the

midst

Post by Ted
of the camp, with

Post by Dr. Who
the cloud of Glory over it at all times. The
song of Deborah was made up while they
were in Canaan and were ruled by Judges.

The book of Judges was assembled from old stories that happened

five

Post by Ted
or more centuries previously. Linguistic evidence dates the Song

Post by Ted
Deborah to around 1200 BCE, which also matches the story events.
However, the song doesn't correspond perfectly to the story.

To what story? Have you know concocted a new story line?

Why are you feigning ignorance? You're one of the few christers who
actually know the Bible. You're as familiar with the story as I am.

Post by Dr. Who
It might help you to get a timeline of
biblical events for all the major points of
interest, to look at. Your timelines have
been known to be way off.

LOL. Funny, dude. My timeline is spot on. It's you fundies'

timeline

Post by Ted
that can be way off.

The timeline of scripture is measurable in years, thanks to the

genealogies

Post by Dr. Who
listed. And that is how we know how many years there are between

know and the

Post by Dr. Who
time of Adam.

Isa 57:15-21 (KJV)

15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name
is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a
contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive
the heart of the contrite ones.

*******************
16 For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth: for the
spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made.
*******************

17 For the iniquity of his covetousness was I wroth, and smote him: I hid me,
and was wroth, and he went on frowardly in the way of his heart.

18 I have seen his ways, and will heal him: I will lead him also, and restore
comforts unto him and to his mourners.

19 I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to him that is far off, and
to him that is near, saith the LORD; and I will heal him.

20 But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose
waters cast up mire and dirt.

21 There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.

Ted

2023-01-29 20:43:19 UTC

On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 20:34:48 -0800, Dr.

Post by Dr. Who
(in

On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 17:47:16 -0800, Dr.

Post by Dr. Who
(in

On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 15:59:00 -0800, Dr.

Post by Dr. Who
(in

Post by Ted
The Canaanites referred to him more
specifically as "Bull El". Perhaps that was
to differentiate him from all the other Els
running around.

A Bull is a symbol of God in the ancient
languages.

Interesting, I didn't know that.

Post by Ted
The earliest archaeological record of
Yhwh is in Midian. The escapees from
Egypt, already monotheists (well, their
leaders were), adopted the name as an
alternate for their god Aten.

You need to show proof of that statement.
Yes, the Hebrew Children of were mostly of
the One God Elohim, but many, very man,
had adopted the Egyptian polygons. If, by
saying the escapeeâ€™s from Egypt selected
an alternate name for their historical God
then you are in error.

When I say "escapees from Egypt", I'm not referring to the

Hebrew

slaves of Exodus.

Then I am clueless.

They were the followers of Akhenaten's monotheistic

heresy and

their

slaves and whatever other slaves they could gather before

fleeing.

They were the proto Levites.

They were all unrelated to the tribe of
Levites. One had to be born a Levite to be
of that tribe.

I'm telling you how the tribe of Levites was formed.

They were all offspring of Levi, son of
Jacob, brother of Joseph.

No, that's fiction.

Post by Ted
Many of them were former Egyptian
military and they provided military
training for their fellow escapees, out of
necessity, cuz Egypt wanted them dead.
So they were nobody to fuck with. And
when they heard about the nascent
country of Israel, land of opportunity in
those days, they decided to check it out,
found it was easy pickin's, and
negotiated a place for themselves with
the Israelite inhabitants.

Practicing your fiction skills again? ;)

Actually, it all follows from known facts. It would

require a

page or

two to explain the whole paragraph, but lemme know what

particularly

you doubt, and I'll explain that.

All of it.

I'm willing to explain a bit at a time if you're

interested.

Post by Dr. Who
I was or I would not have asked. Hard to
discuss things one is not familiar with.

Then I'll start with the first sentence. Many of the fugitives

were

nobility and members of the upper class, who would've

certainly

served as army officers. The Tabernacle is modelled after the
Egyptian military battle headquarters. And they must have had
sufficient foresight to raid the armory before they split, and
trained the slaves they brought along, as they managed to pull

off a

military upset victory against the pursuing Egyptians.

Sorry, but had that been true they too would have hated the Hebrews

because

Post by Dr. Who
the firstborn of all they had would have been killed and they would

have been

Post by Dr. Who
out for revenge blood with the rest of them. Time to do a

rewrite.

Post by Ted
;)
Again, you're citing fiction. That never happened.

Post by Ted
Two of the most ancient passages in the
Bible are the Song of Miriam and the
Song of Deborah, the former making no
mention of Israel and the latter making
no mention of Levites, as both were
composed before their meeting.

The only Israelites in the Bible with Egyptian names are

Levites.

Ever wonder about that? And didn't you read what I said

above

about

the Song of Miriam and the Song of Deborah?

Yes, I did, and I reviewed both books and their pertains

statements

of the

Post by Dr. Who
two women. That the women did not mention Israel my name

was not

necessary

Post by Dr. Who
for what they said.

You miss my point. The Song of Miriam was composed in Midian

before

the proto Levites went to Israel and the Song of Deborah was

composed

in Israel before they got there. That's why they

demonstrate

ignorance of each other.

Before the Israelites went to Egypt there
were Levites.

Israel was formed during the economic depression of the Late

Bronze

Age when people from the coastal cities and pastoral nomads

settled

there because the land was arable and unpopulated. They never

"went

to Egypt".

They initially went to Egypt because of drought, with the

resulting

Post by Ted
Famine

Post by Dr. Who
that lasted for 7 years. And there they lived for over 400

years as

Post by Dr. Who
prophesied.

Nah. You showed me evidence indicating that the story of Joseph may
have been founded on a real individual. That's all. I told you where
the Israelites came from. And it wasn't Egypt.

Post by Dr. Who
The Tribe of Levites left with the rest of the
Hebrews from Egypt and wandered with
the others in the desert, and they also

That never happened at all.

Try very hard to convince yourself and you will believe it, over

all the

Post by Dr. Who
evidence that exists on the Net, with pictures of proof on many

things.
There is no evidence for the Exodus. None.

Post by Dr. Who
served in the Tabernacle of God that was
moved wherever they went. The Tent was always set up in the

midst

of the camp, with

Post by Dr. Who
the cloud of Glory over it at all times. The
song of Deborah was made up while they
were in Canaan and were ruled by Judges.

The book of Judges was assembled from old stories that

happened

Post by Ted
five

or more centuries previously. Linguistic evidence dates the Song

Deborah to around 1200 BCE, which also matches the story

events.

However, the song doesn't correspond perfectly to the story.

To what story? Have you know concocted a new story line?

Why are you feigning ignorance? You're one of the few christers who
actually know the Bible. You're as familiar with the story as I am.

Post by Dr. Who
It might help you to get a timeline of
biblical events for all the major points of
interest, to look at. Your timelines have
been known to be way off.

LOL. Funny, dude. My timeline is spot on. It's you fundies'

timeline

that can be way off.

The timeline of scripture is measurable in years, thanks to the

genealogies

Post by Dr. Who
listed. And that is how we know how many years there are between

know and the

Post by Dr. Who
time of Adam.

Genesis 1

Post by Ted
as a replacement for the Adam and Eve myth because they knew it was
bullshit. That was in the 8th century BCE. But you 21st century
christers are still insisting it's true.

Isa 57:15-21 (KJV)
15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name
is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a
contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive
the heart of the contrite ones.
*******************
16 For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth: for the
spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made.
*******************
17 For the iniquity of his covetousness was I wroth, and smote him: I hid me,
and was wroth, and he went on frowardly in the way of his heart.
18 I have seen his ways, and will heal him: I will lead him also, and restore
comforts unto him and to his mourners.
19 I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to him that is far off, and
to him that is near, saith the LORD; and I will heal him.
20 But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose
waters cast up mire and dirt.
21 There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.

Damn. Is that why I can't get any peace?

Incidentally, although Isaiah prophesied
during the 8th century BCE, that was only
Isaiah 1-39. Isaiah 40-66 was written during
the 6th and 5th centuries, possibly by scores
of authors. And your quotation above is from around c 500 BCE.

That's because new prophets weren't
generally accepted after the Exile. So if you
had something to say, you wrote it and
claimed it was from a respected prophet,
most often Isaiah. (But that isn't the main
reason the author of Daniel claimed to be
Daniel.)

Stick with me, Robert, and you'll learn a lot
about the Bible. :-)

Rockinghorse Winner

2023-01-29 21:05:33 UTC

Post by Ted
Genesis 1

Post by Ted
as a replacement for the Adam and Eve myth because they knew it

was

Post by Ted
bullshit. That was in the 8th century BCE. But you 21st century
christers are still insisting it's true.

Isa 57:15-21 (KJV)
15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity,

whose name

Post by Dr. Who
is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is

of a

Post by Dr. Who
contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and

to revive

Post by Dr. Who
the heart of the contrite ones.
*******************

for the

Post by Dr. Who
spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made.
*******************

I hid me,

Post by Dr. Who
and was wroth, and he went on frowardly in the way of his heart.
18 I have seen his ways, and will heal him: I will lead him also,

and restore

Post by Dr. Who
comforts unto him and to his mourners.
19 I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to him that is far

off, and

Post by Dr. Who
to him that is near, saith the LORD; and I will heal him.
20 But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest,

whose

Post by Dr. Who
waters cast up mire and dirt.
21 There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.

Damn. Is that why I can't get any peace?

Yes, unfortunately.

--
"Many have sought in vain to tell joyously of the Most Joyous; now at last
it declares Itself to me, now in this misery." -Holderlin

Ted

2023-01-30 03:45:36 UTC

On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 21:05:33 -0000 (UTC), Rockinghorse Winner

On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 09:37:59 -0800, Dr. Who

On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 23:56:00 -0800, Dr.

(in

Genesis 1

as a replacement for the Adam and Eve myth because they knew it

was

bullshit. That was in the 8th century BCE. But you 21st century
christers are still insisting it's true.

Isa 57:15-21 (KJV)
15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth

eternity,

whose name

Post by Dr. Who
is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is

of a

Post by Dr. Who
contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and

to revive

Post by Dr. Who
the heart of the contrite ones.
*******************

for the

Post by Dr. Who
spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made.
*******************

I hid me,

Post by Dr. Who
and was wroth, and he went on frowardly in the way of his heart.
18 I have seen his ways, and will heal him: I will lead him

also,

and restore

Post by Dr. Who
comforts unto him and to his mourners.
19 I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to him that is far

off, and

Post by Dr. Who
to him that is near, saith the LORD; and I will heal him.
20 But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot

rest,

whose

Post by Dr. Who
waters cast up mire and dirt.
21 There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.

Damn. Is that why I can't get any peace?

Yes, unfortunately.

LOL. Thought so.

Rockinghorse Winner

2023-01-31 01:38:48 UTC

Post by Ted
On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 21:05:33 -0000 (UTC), Rockinghorse Winner

On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 09:37:59 -0800, Dr. Who

On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 23:56:00 -0800, Dr.

21 There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.

Damn. Is that why I can't get any peace?

Yes, unfortunately.

LOL. Thought so.

"You have made us and drawn us to yourself, and our heart is restless until it
rests in You." St Augustine, Confessions

--
"Many have sought in vain to tell joyously of the Most Joyous; now at last
it declares Itself to me, now in this misery." -Holderlin

Mitchell Holman

2023-01-28 14:36:02 UTC

Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him has been found in
the tops of Ancient bldgs by Archeologists, Joseph was the son of
Issac who ruled Egypt under the auspices of the Pharaoh at the time
for well past 7 years. The daughter of the Pharaoh at the time Moses
wa found floating on the river, hired his Mom as the wet nurse.

The Bible says it, you believe it, and that settles it.

Dr. Who

2023-01-28 16:21:28 UTC

Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him has been found in
the tops of Ancient bldgs by Archeologists, Joseph was the son of
Issac who ruled Egypt under the auspices of the Pharaoh at the time
for well past 7 years. The daughter of the Pharaoh at the time Moses
wa found floating on the river, hired his Mom as the wet nurse.

The Bible says it, you believe it, and that settles it.

Yes, however archeological evidence also supports it.

Mitchell Holman

2023-01-28 18:58:25 UTC

Post by Ted
It was the legend of an Egyptian prince. And how do we know that?
Because of the hilariously ridiculous bullshit story in Exodus
2:1-10, contrived to convert him into a Hebrew. Also because the
name "Moses" was popular among Egyptian royalty, as it means
"begotten". For example, Rameses was begotten of the god Ra and
Thutmose for the god Thoth.
The book of Exodus is a collection of ancient legends and
traditions, molded into their fable about the founding of Israel.
Like the rest of the Bible, it's mostly bullshit.

Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him has been found
in the tops of Ancient bldgs by Archeologists, Joseph was the son
of Issac who ruled Egypt under the auspices of the Pharaoh at the
time for well past 7 years. The daughter of the Pharaoh at the time
Moses wa found floating on the river, hired his Mom as the wet
nurse.

The Bible says it, you believe it, and that settles it.

Yes, however archeological evidence also supports it.

There is no archeological evidence
for Moses, or plagues of Egypt, or
and exodus, or "40 years of wandering
in the desert". It is all fiction.

The Exodus: Does archaeology have a say?
Jerusalem Post
04/14/2014

The Exodus is so fundamental to us and our Jewish
sources that it is embarrassing that there is no
evidence outside of the Bible to support it.

The short answer is "no". The whole subject of the
Exodus is embarrassing to archaeologists. The Exodus
is so fundamental to us and our Jewish sources that
it is embarrassing that there is no evidence outside
of the Bible to support it. So we prefer not to talk
about it, and hate to be asked about it.

For the account in the Torah is the basis of our
peoples creation, it is the basis of our existence
and it is the basis of our important Passover festival
and the whole Haggada that we recite on the first
evening of this festival of freedom. So that makes
archaeologists reluctant to have to tell our brethren
and ourselves that there is nothing in Egyptian records
to support it. Nothing on the slavery of the Israelites,
nothing on the plagues that persuaded Pharaoh to let
them go, nothing on the miraculous crossing of the Red
Sea, nothing.
http://tinyurl.com/le5o6yl

Dr. Who

2023-01-28 20:07:09 UTC

Post by Ted
It was the legend of an Egyptian prince. And how do we know that?
Because of the hilariously ridiculous bullshit story in Exodus
2:1-10, contrived to convert him into a Hebrew. Also because the
name "Moses" was popular among Egyptian royalty, as it means
"begotten". For example, Rameses was begotten of the god Ra and
Thutmose for the god Thoth.
The book of Exodus is a collection of ancient legends and
traditions, molded into their fable about the founding of Israel.
Like the rest of the Bible, it's mostly bullshit.

Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him has been found
in the tops of Ancient bldgs by Archeologists, Joseph was the son
of Issac who ruled Egypt under the auspices of the Pharaoh at the
time for well past 7 years. The daughter of the Pharaoh at the time
Moses wa found floating on the river, hired his Mom as the wet
nurse.

The Bible says it, you believe it, and that settles it.

Yes, however archeological evidence also supports it.

There is no archeological evidence
for Moses, or plagues of Egypt, or
and exodus, or "40 years of wandering
in the desert". It is all fiction.

You cannot read very well, can you? So you change the goal posts in order to
obfuscate the subject at hand.

The discovery of the Egyptian name of Jospeh in Egypt from when he ruled over
Egypt offsets and trumps your old article, also many other things have been
discovered there and throughout the land of Israel. Some of which if you have
done a recent search on the subject you will see plenty of evidences.

Now can I prove that you were never married by posting old historic articles
about you, Such as census records of other items of interest on you? Would
that mean that is your current state of being?

Post by Mitchell Holman
The Exodus: Does archaeology have a say?
Jerusalem Post
04/14/2014
The Exodus is so fundamental to us and our Jewish
sources that it is embarrassing that there is no
evidence outside of the Bible to support it.
The short answer is "no". The whole subject of the
Exodus is embarrassing to archaeologists. The Exodus
is so fundamental to us and our Jewish sources that
it is embarrassing that there is no evidence outside
of the Bible to support it. So we prefer not to talk
about it, and hate to be asked about it.
For the account in the Torah is the basis of our
people’s creation, it is the basis of our existence
and it is the basis of our important Passover festival
and the whole Haggada that we recite on the first
evening of this festival of freedom. So that makes
archaeologists reluctant to have to tell our brethren
and ourselves that there is nothing in Egyptian records
to support it. Nothing on the slavery of the Israelites,
nothing on the plagues that persuaded Pharaoh to let
them go, nothing on the miraculous crossing of the Red
Sea, nothing.
http://tinyurl.com/le5o6yl

Mitchell Holman

2023-01-29 02:29:24 UTC

Post by Ted
It was the legend of an Egyptian prince. And how do we know
that? Because of the hilariously ridiculous bullshit story in
Exodus 2:1-10, contrived to convert him into a Hebrew. Also
because the name "Moses" was popular among Egyptian royalty,
as it means "begotten". For example, Rameses was begotten of
the god Ra and Thutmose for the god Thoth.
The book of Exodus is a collection of ancient legends and
traditions, molded into their fable about the founding of
Israel. Like the rest of the Bible, it's mostly bullshit.

Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him has been
found in the tops of Ancient bldgs by Archeologists, Joseph was
the son of Issac who ruled Egypt under the auspices of the
Pharaoh at the time for well past 7 years. The daughter of the
Pharaoh at the time Moses wa found floating on the river, hired
his Mom as the wet nurse.

The Bible says it, you believe it, and that settles it.

Yes, however archeological evidence also supports it.

There is no archeological evidence
for Moses, or plagues of Egypt, or
and exodus, or "40 years of wandering
in the desert". It is all fiction.

If professional archeologists
and egyptologists agreed with you
you would have a point.

But they don't, so you don't.

Exodus Documentary: Evidence that Demands a Verdict
04-01-2015

"I hate to disappoint people, but we have no
evidence of a mass migration of people from
one people coming into another country,"
University of Haifa archaeologist Norma
Franklin states in the film. "I don't believe
there was a single event that we can call the
Exodus."

Egyptologist Maarten Raven, curator of the Leiden
Museum in the Netherlands, also doubts the biblical
account. "This person [Moses] could not have seen
all this. He imagined it"

"I'm very much against chronicle revisionism," said
James K. Hoffmeier, Egyptologist and professor of
Old Testament and Near Eastern Archaeology at
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield,
Illinois.

Egyptologist Mansour Boraik, director general of
Antiquities at Luxor, maintains "there's no
documented evidence about the Exodus."

And Tel Aviv University archaeologist Israel
Finkelstein concludes "[The] Exodus did not happen
in the way that it is described in the text."

http://tinyurl.com/p2kkqmz

Ted

2023-01-29 03:09:20 UTC

On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 02:29:24 +0000, Mitchell Holman

Post by Dr. Who
(in

royalty,

Post by Ted
as it means "begotten". For example, Rameses was

begotten of

Post by Ted
the god Ra and Thutmose for the god Thoth.
The book of Exodus is a collection of ancient legends and
traditions, molded into their fable about the founding of
Israel. Like the rest of the Bible, it's mostly bullshit.

Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him has been
found in the tops of Ancient bldgs by Archeologists,

Joseph was

Post by Dr. Who
the son of Issac who ruled Egypt under the auspices of the
Pharaoh at the time for well past 7 years. The daughter of the
Pharaoh at the time Moses wa found floating on the river, hired
his Mom as the wet nurse.

The Bible says it, you believe it, and that settles it.

Yes, however archeological evidence also supports it.

There is no archeological evidence
for Moses, or plagues of Egypt, or
and exodus, or "40 years of wandering
in the desert". It is all fiction.

Israel.

Post by Dr. Who
Some of which if you have done a recent search on the subject you will
see plenty of evidences.

If professional archeologists
and egyptologists agreed with you
you would have a point.
But they don't, so you don't.
Exodus Documentary: Evidence that Demands a Verdict
04-01-2015
"I hate to disappoint people, but we have no
evidence of a mass migration of people from
one people coming into another country,"
University of Haifa archaeologist Norma
Franklin states in the film. "I don't believe
there was a single event that we can call the
Exodus."
Egyptologist Maarten Raven, curator of the Leiden
Museum in the Netherlands, also doubts the biblical
account. "This person [Moses] could not have seen
all this. He imagined it"
"I'm very much against chronicle revisionism," said
James K. Hoffmeier, Egyptologist and professor of
Old Testament and Near Eastern Archaeology at
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield,
Illinois.
Egyptologist Mansour Boraik, director general of
Antiquities at Luxor, maintains "there's no
documented evidence about the Exodus."
And Tel Aviv University archaeologist Israel
Finkelstein concludes "[The] Exodus did not happen
in the way that it is described in the text."
http://tinyurl.com/p2kkqmz

Thanks Mitchell. Interesting that Finkelstein appended the qualifying
phrase. I would have expected him to end the sentence after the word
"happen". Iirc, he doesn't believe it occurred at all.

Dr. Who

2023-01-29 04:42:48 UTC

Post by Ted
On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 02:29:24 +0000, Mitchell Holman

Post by Dr. Who
(in

Post by Ted
It was the legend of an Egyptian prince. And how do we

know

Post by Ted
that? Because of the hilariously ridiculous bullshit

story in

Post by Ted
Exodus 2:1-10, contrived to convert him into a Hebrew.

Also

Post by Ted
because the name "Moses" was popular among Egyptian

royalty,

Post by Ted
as it means "begotten". For example, Rameses was

begotten of

Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him has

been

Post by Dr. Who
found in the tops of Ancient bldgs by Archeologists,

Joseph was

Post by Dr. Who
the son of Issac who ruled Egypt under the auspices of the
Pharaoh at the time for well past 7 years. The daughter of

the

Post by Dr. Who
Pharaoh at the time Moses wa found floating on the river,

hired

Post by Dr. Who
his Mom as the wet nurse.

The Bible says it, you believe it, and that settles it.

Yes, however archeological evidence also supports it.

There is no archeological evidence
for Moses, or plagues of Egypt, or
and exodus, or "40 years of wandering
in the desert". It is all fiction.

You cannot read very well, can you? So you change the goal posts

Post by Dr. Who
order to obfuscate the subject at hand.
The discovery of the Egyptian name of Jospeh in Egypt from when he
ruled over Egypt offsets and trumps your old article, also many

other

Post by Dr. Who
things have been discovered there and throughout the land of

Israel.

Post by Dr. Who
Some of which if you have done a recent search on the subject you

will

Post by Dr. Who
see plenty of evidences.

If professional archeologists
and egyptologists agreed with you
you would have a point.
But they don't, so you don't.
Exodus Documentary: Evidence that Demands a Verdict
04-01-2015
"I hate to disappoint people, but we have no
evidence of a mass migration of people from
one people coming into another country,"
University of Haifa archaeologist Norma
Franklin states in the film. "I don't believe
there was a single event that we can call the
Exodus."
Egyptologist Maarten Raven, curator of the Leiden
Museum in the Netherlands, also doubts the biblical
account. "This person [Moses] could not have seen
all this. He imagined it"
"I'm very much against chronicle revisionism," said
James K. Hoffmeier, Egyptologist and professor of
Old Testament and Near Eastern Archaeology at
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield,
Illinois.
Egyptologist Mansour Boraik, director general of
Antiquities at Luxor, maintains "there's no
documented evidence about the Exodus."

The book of Exodus documents the event.

Post by Mitchell Holman
And Tel Aviv University archaeologist Israel
Finkelstein concludes "[The] Exodus did not happen
in the way that it is described in the text."
http://tinyurl.com/p2kkqmz

Thanks Mitchell. Interesting that Finkelstein appended the qualifying
phrase. I would have expected him to end the sentence after the word
"happen". Iirc, he doesn't believe it occurred at all.

Ted

2023-01-29 06:28:33 UTC

Post by Ted
On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 02:29:24 +0000, Mitchell Holman

Post by Dr. Who
(in

Post by Dr. Who
(in

Post by Ted
It was the legend of an Egyptian prince. And how do we

know

Post by Ted
that? Because of the hilariously ridiculous bullshit

story in

Post by Ted
Exodus 2:1-10, contrived to convert him into a

Hebrew.

Post by Ted
Also

Post by Ted
because the name "Moses" was popular among Egyptian

royalty,

Post by Ted
as it means "begotten". For example, Rameses was

begotten of

Post by Ted
the god Ra and Thutmose for the god Thoth.
The book of Exodus is a collection of ancient

legends and

Post by Ted
traditions, molded into their fable about the

founding of

Post by Ted
Israel. Like the rest of the Bible, it's mostly bullshit.

Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him has

been

Post by Dr. Who
found in the tops of Ancient bldgs by Archeologists,

Joseph was

Post by Dr. Who
the son of Issac who ruled Egypt under the auspices of the
Pharaoh at the time for well past 7 years. The

daughter of

Post by Ted
the

Post by Dr. Who
Pharaoh at the time Moses wa found floating on the river,

hired

Post by Dr. Who
his Mom as the wet nurse.

The Bible says it, you believe it, and that settles it.

Yes, however archeological evidence also supports it.

There is no archeological evidence
for Moses, or plagues of Egypt, or
and exodus, or "40 years of wandering
in the desert". It is all fiction.

You cannot read very well, can you? So you change the goal posts

Post by Dr. Who
order to obfuscate the subject at hand.
The discovery of the Egyptian name of Jospeh in Egypt from when he
ruled over Egypt offsets and trumps your old article, also many

other

Post by Dr. Who
things have been discovered there and throughout the land of

Israel.

Post by Dr. Who
Some of which if you have done a recent search on the subject you

will

Post by Dr. Who
see plenty of evidences.

If professional archeologists
and egyptologists agreed with you
you would have a point.
But they don't, so you don't.
Exodus Documentary: Evidence that Demands a Verdict
04-01-2015
"I hate to disappoint people, but we have no
evidence of a mass migration of people from
one people coming into another country,"
University of Haifa archaeologist Norma
Franklin states in the film. "I don't believe
there was a single event that we can call the
Exodus."
Egyptologist Maarten Raven, curator of the Leiden
Museum in the Netherlands, also doubts the biblical
account. "This person [Moses] could not have seen
all this. He imagined it"
"I'm very much against chronicle revisionism," said
James K. Hoffmeier, Egyptologist and professor of
Old Testament and Near Eastern Archaeology at
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield,
Illinois.
Egyptologist Mansour Boraik, director general of
Antiquities at Luxor, maintains "there's no
documented evidence about the Exodus."

The book of Exodus documents the event.

LOL. The book of Exodus is bullshit, Robert.

Dr. Who

2023-01-29 07:59:07 UTC

Post by Ted
On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 02:29:24 +0000, Mitchell Holman

Post by Dr. Who
(in

Post by Dr. Who
(in

Post by Ted
It was the legend of an Egyptian prince. And how do

Post by Ted
know

Post by Ted
that? Because of the hilariously ridiculous bullshit

story in

Post by Ted
Exodus 2:1-10, contrived to convert him into a

Hebrew.

Post by Ted
Also

Post by Ted
because the name "Moses" was popular among Egyptian

royalty,

Post by Ted
as it means "begotten". For example, Rameses was

begotten of

Post by Ted
the god Ra and Thutmose for the god Thoth.
The book of Exodus is a collection of ancient

legends and

Post by Ted
traditions, molded into their fable about the

founding of

Post by Ted
Israel. Like the rest of the Bible, it's mostly

bullshit.

Post by Dr. Who
Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him

has

Post by Ted
been

Post by Dr. Who
found in the tops of Ancient bldgs by Archeologists,

Joseph was

Post by Dr. Who
the son of Issac who ruled Egypt under the auspices

of the

Post by Dr. Who
Pharaoh at the time for well past 7 years. The

daughter of

Post by Ted
the

Post by Dr. Who
Pharaoh at the time Moses wa found floating on the

river,

Post by Ted
hired

Post by Dr. Who
his Mom as the wet nurse.

The Bible says it, you believe it, and that settles it.

Yes, however archeological evidence also supports it.

There is no archeological evidence
for Moses, or plagues of Egypt, or
and exodus, or "40 years of wandering
in the desert". It is all fiction.

You cannot read very well, can you? So you change the goal

posts

Post by Ted
in

Post by Dr. Who
order to obfuscate the subject at hand.
The discovery of the Egyptian name of Jospeh in Egypt from

when he

Post by Dr. Who
ruled over Egypt offsets and trumps your old article, also

many

Post by Ted
other

Post by Dr. Who
things have been discovered there and throughout the land of

Israel.

Post by Dr. Who
Some of which if you have done a recent search on the subject

you

Post by Ted
will

Post by Dr. Who
see plenty of evidences.

If professional archeologists
and egyptologists agreed with you
you would have a point.
But they don't, so you don't.
Exodus Documentary: Evidence that Demands a Verdict
04-01-2015
"I hate to disappoint people, but we have no
evidence of a mass migration of people from
one people coming into another country,"
University of Haifa archaeologist Norma
Franklin states in the film. "I don't believe
there was a single event that we can call the
Exodus."
Egyptologist Maarten Raven, curator of the Leiden
Museum in the Netherlands, also doubts the biblical
account. "This person [Moses] could not have seen
all this. He imagined it"
"I'm very much against chronicle revisionism," said
James K. Hoffmeier, Egyptologist and professor of
Old Testament and Near Eastern Archaeology at
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield,
Illinois.
Egyptologist Mansour Boraik, director general of
Antiquities at Luxor, maintains "there's no
documented evidence about the Exodus."

The book of Exodus documents the event.

LOL. The book of Exodus is bullshit, Robert.

Well had that been true you would not have been able to see the Egyptian name
of Joseph in Egypt in pictures and videos.

Ted

2023-01-29 08:50:00 UTC

Post by Ted
On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 02:29:24 +0000, Mitchell Holman

Post by Dr. Who
(in

Post by Dr. Who
(in

Post by Dr. Who
(in

Post by Ted
It was the legend of an Egyptian prince. And how do

Post by Ted
know

Post by Ted
that? Because of the hilariously ridiculous bullshit

story in

Post by Ted
Exodus 2:1-10, contrived to convert him into a

Hebrew.

Post by Ted
Also

Post by Ted
because the name "Moses" was popular among

Egyptian

Post by Ted
royalty,

Post by Ted
as it means "begotten". For example, Rameses was

begotten of

Post by Ted
the god Ra and Thutmose for the god Thoth.
The book of Exodus is a collection of ancient

legends and

Post by Ted
traditions, molded into their fable about the

founding of

Post by Ted
Israel. Like the rest of the Bible, it's mostly

bullshit.

Post by Dr. Who
Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him

has

Post by Ted
been

Post by Dr. Who
found in the tops of Ancient bldgs by

Archeologists,

Post by Ted
Joseph was

Post by Dr. Who
the son of Issac who ruled Egypt under the

auspices

Post by Ted
of the

Post by Dr. Who
Pharaoh at the time for well past 7 years. The

daughter of

Post by Ted
the

Post by Dr. Who
Pharaoh at the time Moses wa found floating on the

river,

Post by Ted
hired

Post by Dr. Who
his Mom as the wet nurse.

The Bible says it, you believe it, and that settles it.

Yes, however archeological evidence also supports it.

There is no archeological evidence
for Moses, or plagues of Egypt, or
and exodus, or "40 years of wandering
in the desert". It is all fiction.

You cannot read very well, can you? So you change the goal

posts

Post by Ted
in

Post by Dr. Who
order to obfuscate the subject at hand.
The discovery of the Egyptian name of Jospeh in Egypt from

when he

Post by Dr. Who
ruled over Egypt offsets and trumps your old article, also

many

Post by Ted
other

Post by Dr. Who
things have been discovered there and throughout the land of

Israel.

Post by Dr. Who
Some of which if you have done a recent search on the subject

you

Post by Ted
will

Post by Dr. Who
see plenty of evidences.

If professional archeologists
and egyptologists agreed with you
you would have a point.
But they don't, so you don't.
Exodus Documentary: Evidence that Demands a Verdict
04-01-2015
"I hate to disappoint people, but we have no
evidence of a mass migration of people from
one people coming into another country,"
University of Haifa archaeologist Norma
Franklin states in the film. "I don't believe
there was a single event that we can call the
Exodus."
Egyptologist Maarten Raven, curator of the Leiden
Museum in the Netherlands, also doubts the biblical
account. "This person [Moses] could not have seen
all this. He imagined it"
"I'm very much against chronicle revisionism," said
James K. Hoffmeier, Egyptologist and professor of
Old Testament and Near Eastern Archaeology at
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield,
Illinois.
Egyptologist Mansour Boraik, director general of
Antiquities at Luxor, maintains "there's no
documented evidence about the Exodus."

The book of Exodus documents the event.

LOL. The book of Exodus is bullshit, Robert.

Well had that been true you would not have been able to see the Egyptian name
of Joseph in Egypt in pictures and videos.

Joseph has nothing to do with it. You know that.

Mitchell Holman

2023-01-29 14:34:12 UTC

Post by Ted
On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 02:29:24 +0000, Mitchell Holman

Post by Dr. Who
(in

Post by Ted
It was the legend of an Egyptian prince. And how do we

know

Post by Ted
that? Because of the hilariously ridiculous bullshit

story in

Post by Ted
Exodus 2:1-10, contrived to convert him into a Hebrew.

Also

Post by Ted
because the name "Moses" was popular among Egyptian

royalty,

Post by Ted
as it means "begotten". For example, Rameses was

begotten of

bullshit.

Post by Dr. Who
Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him has

been

Post by Dr. Who
found in the tops of Ancient bldgs by Archeologists,

Joseph was

Post by Dr. Who
the son of Issac who ruled Egypt under the auspices of the
Pharaoh at the time for well past 7 years. The daughter of

the

Post by Dr. Who
Pharaoh at the time Moses wa found floating on the river,

hired

Post by Dr. Who
his Mom as the wet nurse.

The Bible says it, you believe it, and that settles it.

Yes, however archeological evidence also supports it.

There is no archeological evidence
for Moses, or plagues of Egypt, or
and exodus, or "40 years of wandering
in the desert". It is all fiction.

You cannot read very well, can you? So you change the goal posts

Post by Dr. Who
order to obfuscate the subject at hand.
The discovery of the Egyptian name of Jospeh in Egypt from when he
ruled over Egypt offsets and trumps your old article, also many

other

Post by Dr. Who
things have been discovered there and throughout the land of

Israel.

Post by Dr. Who
Some of which if you have done a recent search on the subject you

will

Post by Dr. Who
see plenty of evidences.

If professional archeologists
and egyptologists agreed with you
you would have a point.
But they don't, so you don't.
Exodus Documentary: Evidence that Demands a Verdict
04-01-2015
"I hate to disappoint people, but we have no
evidence of a mass migration of people from
one people coming into another country,"
University of Haifa archaeologist Norma
Franklin states in the film. "I don't believe
there was a single event that we can call the
Exodus."
Egyptologist Maarten Raven, curator of the Leiden
Museum in the Netherlands, also doubts the biblical
account. "This person [Moses] could not have seen
all this. He imagined it"
"I'm very much against chronicle revisionism," said
James K. Hoffmeier, Egyptologist and professor of
Old Testament and Near Eastern Archaeology at
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield,
Illinois.
Egyptologist Mansour Boraik, director general of
Antiquities at Luxor, maintains "there's no
documented evidence about the Exodus."

The book of Exodus documents the event.

Do you believe everything described
in the Bible is historically correct?

Dr. Who

2023-01-29 04:37:48 UTC

Post by Ted
It was the legend of an Egyptian prince. And how do we know
that? Because of the hilariously ridiculous bullshit story in
Exodus 2:1-10, contrived to convert him into a Hebrew. Also
because the name "Moses" was popular among Egyptian royalty,
as it means "begotten". For example, Rameses was begotten of
the god Ra and Thutmose for the god Thoth.
The book of Exodus is a collection of ancient legends and
traditions, molded into their fable about the founding of
Israel. Like the rest of the Bible, it's mostly bullshit.

Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him has been
found in the tops of Ancient bldgs by Archeologists, Joseph was
the son of Issac who ruled Egypt under the auspices of the
Pharaoh at the time for well past 7 years. The daughter of the
Pharaoh at the time Moses wa found floating on the river, hired
his Mom as the wet nurse.

The Bible says it, you believe it, and that settles it.

Yes, however archeological evidence also supports it.

There is no archeological evidence
for Moses, or plagues of Egypt, or
and exodus, or "40 years of wandering
in the desert". It is all fiction.

If professional archeologists
and egyptologists agreed with you
you would have a point.
But they don't, so you don't.

The reason you do not know, is that you are not current. The truth of the
“real archeologist” just whooshes by you unobserved.

Post by Mitchell Holman
Exodus Documentary: Evidence that Demands a Verdict
04-01-2015
"I hate to disappoint people, but we have no
evidence of a mass migration of people from
one people coming into another country,"
University of Haifa archaeologist Norma
Franklin states in the film. "I don't believe
there was a single event that we can call the
Exodus."
Egyptologist Maarten Raven, curator of the Leiden
Museum in the Netherlands, also doubts the biblical
account. "This person [Moses] could not have seen
all this. He imagined it"
"I'm very much against chronicle revisionism," said
James K. Hoffmeier, Egyptologist and professor of
Old Testament and Near Eastern Archaeology at
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield,
Illinois.
Egyptologist Mansour Boraik, director general of
Antiquities at Luxor, maintains "there's no
documented evidence about the Exodus."
And Tel Aviv University archaeologist Israel
Finkelstein concludes "[The] Exodus did not happen
in the way that it is described in the text."
http://tinyurl.com/p2kkqmz

tesla sTinker

2023-01-29 18:35:39 UTC

Post by Ted
It was the legend of an Egyptian prince. And how do we know
that? Because of the hilariously ridiculous bullshit story in
Exodus 2:1-10, contrived to convert him into a Hebrew. Also
because the name "Moses" was popular among Egyptian royalty,
as it means "begotten". For example, Rameses was begotten of
the god Ra and Thutmose for the god Thoth.
The book of Exodus is a collection of ancient legends and
traditions, molded into their fable about the founding of
Israel. Like the rest of the Bible, it's mostly bullshit.

Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him has been
found in the tops of Ancient bldgs by Archeologists, Joseph was
the son of Issac who ruled Egypt under the auspices of the
Pharaoh at the time for well past 7 years. The daughter of the
Pharaoh at the time Moses wa found floating on the river, hired
his Mom as the wet nurse.

The Bible says it, you believe it, and that settles it.

Yes, however archeological evidence also supports it.

There is no archeological evidence
for Moses, or plagues of Egypt, or
and exodus, or "40 years of wandering
in the desert". It is all fiction.

If professional archeologists
and egyptologists agreed with you
you would have a point.
But they don't, so you don't.

The reason you do not know, is that you are not current. The truth of the
“real archeologist” just whooshes by you unobserved.

they are not very smart are they. I like that, whooshes!!!
You would think they would give the Scriptures have a chance,
Even if no one is perfect. And go to a right type museum to see
the actual evidence itself instead of doing drugs. But the devil
always calls everyone a liar, even himself. This is true, and the true
Bible declares it so. Just look at the document thing on both the
false president and the true one. Ha ha. Ones a communist, has swiss
bank accounts.
Politicians, what a joke. Its all over you tube the 40 trillion dollars
they owe us for all those years of lying and stealing. And not able to
account for any of it. And everyone here knows its true. All they have
to do, is refund it as in a penance to the people, and it certainly will
fix the economy. So called Christians. So in the truth, they have
nothing to argue about except who stole more from the poor.

Your right about whooshes. They could give a dam about God, and
instead, they go off an get drunk. Declaring a bunch of lies always.
Sorry, they even know where the garden of eden was. Its still there.

tesla sTinker

2023-01-29 17:55:23 UTC

Post by Ted
It was the legend of an Egyptian prince. And how do we know that?
Because of the hilariously ridiculous bullshit story in Exodus
2:1-10, contrived to convert him into a Hebrew. Also because the
name "Moses" was popular among Egyptian royalty, as it means
"begotten". For example, Rameses was begotten of the god Ra and
Thutmose for the god Thoth.
The book of Exodus is a collection of ancient legends and
traditions, molded into their fable about the founding of Israel.
Like the rest of the Bible, it's mostly bullshit.

Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him has been found
in the tops of Ancient bldgs by Archeologists, Joseph was the son
of Issac who ruled Egypt under the auspices of the Pharaoh at the
time for well past 7 years. The daughter of the Pharaoh at the time
Moses wa found floating on the river, hired his Mom as the wet
nurse.

The Bible says it, you believe it, and that settles it.

Yes, however archeological evidence also supports it.

There is no archeological evidence
for Moses, or plagues of Egypt, or
and exodus, or "40 years of wandering
in the desert". It is all fiction.

You may not think so, But I know better. And for certain,
you do not know everything as God knows everything. So why
should anyone listen to someone who claims they know. Science,
all Science, is theory, It is not fact until theory is proven by
actual truth. And for this reason, Science is flawed, as in the same
way they cannot prove, the earth revolves around the Sun, because there
is no fixed point in space. At least we do know, its not Polaris, it
has slight movement.

So without a way to measure exact, it cannot be proven, yet the world
teaches its children such things as Galileo as fact, and its based on
theory only. This is wrong. No matter who does not think so.

In all the facts of true archeology, they have this one about Moses.
Yes, its all true, even the moved ocean floor and more ding dong...
So while your telling the world there is no evidence, think again.
You don't know shit, Mitchell Holman. and in reality, I do not either.
BUT, at least i try to know by what I read.... And I believe this is
truth, because I have those real maps, and if want them, you would have
to buy them... And no, the maps do not lie. Only people like you lie,
whether you mean it, or not.

https://nypost.com/2021/10/02/archaeologist-claims-mount-sinai-found-in-saudi-arabia/

teslaStinker

2023-01-28 21:14:54 UTC

It's not fiction. Look at the ocean floor maps of national
geographic! Then explain how that dyke got there. When God
opened the water for Moses. Besides, they have several proofs
that those books are not bogus. It's called science
stupid.

--
Daniel

Dr. Who

2023-01-29 00:03:30 UTC

On Jan 27, 2023, Ted wrote(in
legend of an Egyptian prince. And how do we know that?> Because of the
hilariously ridiculous bullshit story in Exodus> 2:1-10, contrived to
convert him into a Hebrew. Also because the name> "Moses" was popular
among Egyptian royalty, as it means "begotten".> For example, Rameses was
begotten of the god Ra and Thutmose for the> god Thoth.>> The book of
Exodus is a collection of ancient legends and traditions,> molded into
their fable about the founding of Israel. Like the rest> of the Bible,
it's mostly bullshit.Yet the name of Joseph, the Egyptian name given him
has been found in the tops of Ancient bldgs by Archeologists, Joseph was
the son of Issac who ruled Egypt under the auspices of the Pharaoh at the
time for well past 7 years. The daughter of the Pharaoh at the time Moses
wa found floating on the river, hired his Mom as the wet nurse.Have you
ever considered being a fiction writer?

Hey, Stupid, you better learn how to read your newsreader, As to the
“Dyke”If it is still standing there, then explain how the Egyptian Army
and its leader were drowned.

tesla sTinker

2023-01-29 18:13:19 UTC

Hey, Stupid, you better learn how to read your newsreader, As to the
“Dyke”If it is still standing there, then explain how the Egyptian Army
and its leader were drowned.

When God parted the waters, the dyke took place from divine force of the
water being parted. And of course, they drowned, when God let go of the
waters. And this, is not the only miracle God has ever done

S T U P I D . (((hence, the feelings mutual name caller)))
He has a whole list of them very long list of also. And no, most of
them, they will never explain of because of science, as its in the
stupids of man, dummy's, does not work at all in explain of divine
powers. Or divine providence. It never did, and it never will.
Unexplainable.... OH, its a magnet. Sure.!

Not divine power. But it can so explain, other things, such as, what is
found in history of material things. And how old they are. Not to the
exact day, but semi close. In truthful cases.

And most scientists, would agree.

Dr. Who

2023-01-30 04:33:02 UTC

Hey, Stupid, you better learn how to read your newsreader, As to the
“Dyke”If it is still standing there, then explain how the Egyptian Army
and its leader were drowned.

So you too are a fiction writer? The Israelites walked across on dry ground.
God did not use a massive hair drier for that. And when a few million people
walked on the bottom of that sea, they by trampling on the ground would have
brought water up to the surface if it was not supernaturally dried out. Need
proof? Look at all the new “dry ground” at Lake Powell and all the people
getting stuck there, in the “dry ground”.

It would be nice if you paid attention as to whom you are actually replying
to, and post your comments to them and not someone else in that thread. It is
very impolite at best.

Rockinghorse Winner

2023-01-31 01:42:42 UTC

Hey, Stupid, you better learn how to read your newsreader, As to the
“Dyke”If it is still standing there, then explain how the Egyptian Army
and its leader were drowned.

So you too are a fiction writer? The Israelites walked across on dry ground.
God did not use a massive hair drier for that. And when a few million people
walked on the bottom of that sea, they by trampling on the ground would have
brought water up to the surface if it was not supernaturally dried out. Need
proof? Look at all the new “dry ground” at Lake Powell and all the people
getting stuck there, in the “dry ground”.
It would be nice if you paid attention as to whom you are actually replying
to, and post your comments to them and not someone else in that thread. It is
very impolite at best.

Life is punctuated by miracles, which we usually dismiss and quickly forget.
Nothing however compares with the great miracle of *Being itself,* which is
undefineable, inexplicable and utterly strange.

--
"Many have sought in vain to tell joyously of the Most Joyous; now at last
it declares Itself to me, now in this misery." -Holderlin

Ted

2023-01-28 12:41:59 UTC

On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:44:42 AM UTC+8, Jack Sovalot

"begotten".

Post by Ted
For example, Rameses was begotten of the god Ra and Thutmose for the
god Thoth.
The book of Exodus is a collection of ancient legends and

traditions,

Post by Ted
molded into their fable about the founding of Israel. Like the rest
of the Bible, it's mostly bullshit.

The fake and false stories have fascinated
all the White people who seem to be
devoid of common sense!

It does seem so. But Hinduism is equally idiotic.

With a little bit of alertness, those stories in
the bible are as useless as the trash in the
dump site!!!

Well, I wouldn't go that far, although the christers do treat it as
trash.

teslaStinker

2023-01-28 21:29:30 UTC

There not christian. We need to call you Ted the dummy. You
are despicable. No, the Real Bible is not bs. It backs itself
up. For that reason, you would understand its not made of lies,
and no stupid liar wrote it, or in no way, could all those books
inside it, back itself up. Besides, tremendously science backs
up its truths.

Ted

2023-01-28 22:34:18 UTC

On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 13:29:30 -0800 (PST), teslaStinker

Post by teslaStinker
There not christian. We need to call you Ted the dummy. You
are despicable. No, the Real Bible is not bs. It backs itself
up. For that reason, you would understand its not made of lies,
and no stupid liar wrote it, or in no way, could all those books
inside it, back itself up. Besides, tremendously science backs
up its truths.

Most of the Bible isn't deliberate lies (although much of it
certainly is). That doesn't mean it's true, however. Most of it is
indeed bullshit.

No, it doesn't back itself up. No, science doesn't back it up. You
just want to believe that.

tesla sTinker

2023-01-29 17:10:40 UTC

Post by Ted
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 13:29:30 -0800 (PST), teslaStinker

Most of the Bible isn't deliberate lies (although much of it certainly
is). That doesn't mean it's true, however. Most of it is indeed bullshit.
No, it doesn't back itself up. No, science doesn't back it up. You just
want to believe that.

that is your own opinion which is not to say much about it. You cannot
prove. Science of when it backs up the bible ? it does, flames of hell
below, volcanoes, that it does not, horse shit ? its a time thing,
called carbon dating. It backs it up that way too... And you always have
liars who do lie about it all. Because they hate God, like you do.
Sometimes, even I get per-turd at Him, but not enough to make up lies
about His holy prophets and His Holy Book, like you do.

Ted

2023-01-29 22:36:11 UTC

On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 09:10:40 -0800, tesla sTinker

Post by Ted
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 13:29:30 -0800 (PST), teslaStinker

Most of the Bible isn't deliberate lies (although much of it

certainly