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Bible stuff the Lord tells me about...83
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Michael McLean
2023-04-29 02:09:05 UTC
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Ecc 1:2  Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all
is vanity.  Or, as the Lord illuminates for me, absurdity of absurdity;
all is absurdity.

King Solomon wasn't just talking about the vanity of pursuing material
things; he was also talking about spiritual matters, primarily so.

We live in a broken system, a system we can never fix. It is an absurd
system. It is a system of vanity.

Essentially, it is suffering, all of it, because it really is the
striving of vanity/absurdity.

All fallen man does is speak about the absurdity of things. It does not
matter what you say, or what 'truth' you say 'about' the system of
vanity; it is all absurdity. It is like endlessly speaking about an
ocean, an ocean you are drowning in.

What is the sole fundamental problem?

Self-worship.

It all boils down to self-worship, and there you have the 'vanity of
vanities' of King Solomon, absurdity of absurdity – all is absurdity,
and it is for one reason and one reason only - self-worship.






Michael
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.
Jack Sovalot
2023-04-29 19:49:28 UTC
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On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 12:09:05 +1000, Michael McLean
Post by Michael McLean
Ecc 1:2  Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of
vanities; all
Post by Michael McLean
is vanity.  Or, as the Lord illuminates for me, absurdity of
absurdity;
Post by Michael McLean
all is absurdity.
King Solomon wasn't just talking about the vanity of pursuing
material
Post by Michael McLean
things; he was also talking about spiritual matters, primarily so.
We live in a broken system, a system we can never fix. It is an absurd
system. It is a system of vanity.
Essentially, it is suffering, all of it, because it really is the
striving of vanity/absurdity.
All fallen man does is speak about the absurdity of things. It does not
matter what you say, or what 'truth' you say 'about' the system of
vanity; it is all absurdity. It is like endlessly speaking about an
ocean, an ocean you are drowning in.
What is the sole fundamental problem?
Self-worship.
It all boils down to self-worship, and there you have the 'vanity of
vanities' of King Solomon, absurdity of absurdity – all is
absurdity,
Post by Michael McLean
and it is for one reason and one reason only - self-worship.
Michael
Your thoughts are often similar to those I held when I was a xian.
Michael McLean
2023-04-29 23:17:38 UTC
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Post by Jack Sovalot
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 12:09:05 +1000, Michael McLean
Post by Michael McLean
Ecc 1:2  Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of
vanities; all
Post by Michael McLean
is vanity.  Or, as the Lord illuminates for me, absurdity of
absurdity;
Post by Michael McLean
all is absurdity.
King Solomon wasn't just talking about the vanity of pursuing
material
Post by Michael McLean
things; he was also talking about spiritual matters, primarily so.
We live in a broken system, a system we can never fix. It is an
absurd
Post by Michael McLean
system. It is a system of vanity.
Essentially, it is suffering, all of it, because it really is the
striving of vanity/absurdity.
All fallen man does is speak about the absurdity of things. It does
not
Post by Michael McLean
matter what you say, or what 'truth' you say 'about' the system of
vanity; it is all absurdity.  It is like endlessly speaking about
an
Post by Michael McLean
ocean, an ocean you are drowning in.
What is the sole fundamental problem?
Self-worship.
It all boils down to self-worship, and there you have the 'vanity
of
Post by Michael McLean
vanities' of King Solomon, absurdity of absurdity – all is
absurdity,
Post by Michael McLean
and it is for one reason and one reason only - self-worship.
Michael
Your thoughts are often similar to those I held when I was a xian.
Maybe so, Ted, but I continued on beyond them to the origin of thought,
and He brought order to my thoughts, as you can see above.  After all,
everything I have said is the truth - not my truth, but His truth.

I entered the Christian religion, but I kept going and ended up on the
other side of it. And what a relief! I wish you had too.

According to the atheist paradigm, the world is ultimately purposeless,
meaningless, and pointless - "absurdity of absurdity," "vanity of
vanities," but fortunately we have a Creator, and in Him resides hope –
a hope that is realisable.




Michael
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.
Michael McLean
2023-04-29 23:24:55 UTC
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Post by Jack Sovalot
On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 12:09:05 +1000, Michael McLean
Post by Michael McLean
Ecc 1:2  Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of
vanities; all
Post by Michael McLean
is vanity.  Or, as the Lord illuminates for me, absurdity of
absurdity;
Post by Michael McLean
all is absurdity.
King Solomon wasn't just talking about the vanity of pursuing
material
Post by Michael McLean
things; he was also talking about spiritual matters, primarily so.
We live in a broken system, a system we can never fix. It is an
absurd
Post by Michael McLean
system. It is a system of vanity.
Essentially, it is suffering, all of it, because it really is the
striving of vanity/absurdity.
All fallen man does is speak about the absurdity of things. It does
not
Post by Michael McLean
matter what you say, or what 'truth' you say 'about' the system of
vanity; it is all absurdity.  It is like endlessly speaking about
an
Post by Michael McLean
ocean, an ocean you are drowning in.
What is the sole fundamental problem?
Self-worship.
It all boils down to self-worship, and there you have the 'vanity
of
Post by Michael McLean
vanities' of King Solomon, absurdity of absurdity – all is
absurdity,
Post by Michael McLean
and it is for one reason and one reason only - self-worship.
Michael
Your thoughts are often similar to those I held when I was a xian.
Another thought, Ted, if I can be blunt. You can't crucify God because
a bunch of fuckin' liars misrepresent Him.

Not a second time!

Well, that would be my advice.




Michael
--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.
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